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How do you prove something doesn't exist?


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#31    ali smack

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

I would say with most things you can't prove they don't exist.
even if it is likely they don't.
for instance it is highly unlikely a 15 foot man exists.
But you can't prove the 15 foot man doesn't exist, just because you think it's unlikely.
He could live in a jungle or in a cave. Just because no one has seen him doesn't disprove
his existence.
It's like that with many things, aliens, religion,cryptids, etc.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:08 PM

So, you say, they probably (or maybe almost certainly) don't exist and forget about them.  You have enough business doing what you have to do with things that do exist.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 24 February 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

Rediculous. Yes you cannot proove a negative this is true.. Double negatives always have problems, but rational people do not need the aggregate to dictate truth by plural reasoning to what they know is true. Some things do not lend themselves to repeatability through demand.

some people  do  not  lend  themselves to  repeatability  through  demands ...  the  soul  seeks  who  it  is...  by  seeing  what  it  is  not ...   there  is  only  the  limitation  of  the imagination  that  digital answers  have  exceptions...

the  better  your  answers  ,  the  more  questions  are spawned ...  precsion is not  the  goal ,  it  is  the  means ...


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

nobody is really interested in proving god 'exist's

all they're interested in is to prove that 'someone else's god don't exist

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 06:23 PM

How can we be so arrogant as to believe that these frail bodies we live in
are perfectly equipped to perceive of all the unknown powers that exist in the universe?

Isn't it rather illogical to think that our limited collection of earthly senses
should be able to perceive of energies, entities and interdimensional physics
that exist elsewhere in the cosmos?

When we start arguing the philosophies of truth and reality,
we start by giving ourselves waaay to much physical credit.

Ya think?


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Posted 20 June 2015 - 08:53 PM

Some also say you cannot prove anything.


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Posted 21 June 2015 - 03:20 AM

If something want to exist, it will prove by itself. If non exist like to stay out of the existence, don't try to make it Visible, you may be wasting your energy and time.  May be the existence is only for your belief, new belief for a while.  It can be your own fantasy world not all.

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 10:20 AM

I can "prove" a statement false by providing  a counter-example -- "All  swans are white" is falsified by producing a black swan.  "God is omnibeneficient" was falsified at Dachau.  "God is omnipotent" by asking if there is anything God cannot do, since if the answer is yes then God cannot do that thing and if the answer is no then there is doing something he cannot do we can put  on a list of things he can't do (self-referetial contradiction).

Does Sasquatch exist is easily proved by producing one, but there is no counterexample (failure to produce one when by now we would normally expect it is strong counter-evidence but he could always be just over the next hill..  That there is no  historical record of any Jesus Christ from non-Christian centuries until over a century after his presumed existence, when in fact there were enough authors of the period who we would expect would have mentioned him but didn't is pretty good  reason to  think he didn't really exist, but not proof.  (This is the biggest hypocrisy in Christian apologetics -- when push comes to it they always end up  with, ":You can't prove otherwise.")


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 08:14 PM

Disproving something is as simple as proving the opposite. Frank Merton's swan analogy demonstrates this method perfectly. Proving something's nonexistence is not only largely impossible, but it is a waste of time when the opposite is usually simpler. If someone says "chupacabra exists" but can't show it, conclusive proof of its nonexistence is not required as the lack of proof supporting it is lacking.

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