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[Jinxdom]

Oh no no no, I based on physical conditions not emotional or psychological. Self medicating based on emotional or psychological states is a bad idea, even to the ones who think they know what they are doing.

Edited by Jinxdom, 05 March 2013 - 07:11 AM.

[pallidin]

The Silver Thong, on 05 March 2013 - 06:41 AM, said:

Holy schit we agree

If you have an anxiety disorder, I'm very sorry to hear that. It can be a real b****.

[pallidin]

Jinxdom, on 05 March 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

Oh no no no, I based on physical conditions not emotional or psychological. Self medicating based on emotional or psychological states is a bad idea, even to the ones who think they know what they are doing.

Perhaps, and I don't disagree, but without any quick-acting medication at all one is only left with the avenue of self-medication.

Just the way it is.

The beer in my hand right now is a strong reducer of my anxiety, within 15-20 minutes. Just sayin for me.

Edited by pallidin, 05 March 2013 - 07:25 AM.

[Frank Merton]

Jinxdom, on 05 March 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

Oh no no no, I based on physical conditions not emotional or psychological. Self medicating based on emotional or psychological states is a bad idea, even to the ones who think they know what they are doing.

I respectfully disagree.  Perhaps the dangers for some are too great, and one must work with professionals, but the tools available to modern medicine make it unnecessary for many of us to have the emotional suffering that we use to have.  It's like the pills I take for hay fever -- overdoing them is just as dangerous but use balance and moderation and one has a far better life.

[pallidin]

Frank Merton, on 05 March 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

I respectfully disagree.  Perhaps the dangers for some are too great, and one must work with professionals, but the tools available to modern medicine make it unnecessary for many of us to have the emotional suffering that we use to have.  It's like the pills I take for hay fever -- overdoing them is just as dangerous but use balance and moderation and one has a far better life.

Besides the psychotrophic drugs(which DOES include self-administered alcohol, BTW) I'm really not sure how much of a "grip" or "desire" to deal with such issue's exists in the mainstream medical community."Give them SSRI's, is what I often hear"

I have a good doctor now, but in the past I was "thrown out into the wind", for many, many years.

[Jinxdom]

pallidin, on 05 March 2013 - 07:18 AM, said:

Perhaps, and I don't disagree, but without any quick-acting medication at all one is only left with the avenue of self-medication.

Just the way it is.

The beer in my hand right now is a strong reducer of my anxiety, within 15-20 minutes. Just sayin for me.

When I mean by know. is assumed knowledge based on information from an outside source. Like a person reading from a textbook.. Who put way to much faith in it. The problem of over complicating things.

Would you take that beer in your hand while your at work or behind the wheel?(I highly doubt you do, you are not an idiot)

Some people just jump to far with things like I just did with my language.

If that is the case you actually have a really good doctor and open-minded doctor. Which also means you are not self-medicating.

Hay fever is a physical symptom. Not a bad thing to self-medicate. Now if you tried to self-medicate without conversing with somebody for a state of mind, I would direct you to get help.

Emotional and psychological problems have a bigger problem with blind sight then the physical. So conversing and discussion your options with a doctor should always be done; if you think there is. (a problem)

Edited by Jinxdom, 05 March 2013 - 07:46 AM.

[pallidin]

Jinxdom, on 05 March 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

When I mean by know. is assumed knowledge based on information from an outside source. Like a person reading from a textbook.. Who put way to much faith in it. The problem of over complicating things.

Would you take that beer in your hand while your at work or behind the wheel?(I highly doubt you do, you are not an idiot)
Some people just jump to far with things like I just did with my language. Self-medicating is what I see to be an all the time permanent use of a chemical to completely change your mind state. Changing a normal person like you, in to an addict out of their own free-will.

Be advised that some people, such as myself, have a verified clinical illness. It just not simple some times, I guess.

EDIT: And don't get me wrong. I hate every aspect of it.

Edited by pallidin, 05 March 2013 - 07:41 AM.

[Jinxdom]

pallidin, on 05 March 2013 - 07:39 AM, said:

Be advised that some people, such as myself, have a verified clinical illness. It just not simple some times, I guess.

EDIT: And don't get me wrong. I hate every aspect of it.

Yeah sorry about the botched quote; I talk as a type then post then edit(I'm weird like that). Then people post and it gets all screwed up.

Like you conversing with a doctor then using beer to help deal is a good thing.  That is not self-medicating.

I can imagine that you hate it; because I would as well. Your definitely right that it's not simple; even the "easiest thing to figure out" can turn really really bad. oh and I wasn't judging you on anxiety and beer. Most people won't; so it's something you really shouldn't worry about

Last thing I want to do is judge somebody based on a quick assumption. Though if you said, I take LSD, for my anxiety I may have started asking some more direction questions about your doctor.

Very glad, you both said something, and gave me a reason to laugh at and explain myself, instead of walking away mad.

Edited by Jinxdom, 05 March 2013 - 08:05 AM.

[ancient astronaut]

You want to hear STUPID, the state of OREGON is considering making cigarettes a scheduled drug and regulated by prescription only. I don't smoke but isn't this a little Overboard!!! Good thing I don't live there anymore. If You want to smoke that's your business, not the states.

Edited by ancient astronaut, 05 March 2013 - 02:26 PM.