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Did the city of Atlantis ever exist


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#1    ReaperS_ParadoX

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:51 PM

Like the topic says, did it ever exist. I mean because as far as I know there hasnt been found a trace of actual evidence that it exists. Let me know If Im wrong.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

I DON'T KNOW HEY HO!!!


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

To the best of my knowledge Atlantis was first mentioned in Plato's "Republic" (?), and has no history previous to that... IMO it was simply a ficticious setting for his ideas/philosophys...

SInce then however, every month or so (seemingly) someone trots out another place in that general hemisphere - as the site for the city-state of Atlantis...  None of them really pass the muster (IMO)...

In his description of where Atlantis 'was' Plato practiced the traditional 'tricks' of the fortune-tellers/seers... "Be really vague about the details, and no one can call you out on it"...


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:11 PM

If we knew it existed we wouldn't be discussing this.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

and there is already a quite long thread about this in the "Ancient Mysteries & Alternative History" part, maybe lets keep things together?
Besides maybe take a look here, 141 pages of Atlantis right there, hey Stevemagegod ;)

No need to have parallel threads about the same thing, just saying.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:36 PM

View PostTheSearcher, on 05 March 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

and there is already a quite long thread about this in the "Ancient Mysteries & Alternative History" part, maybe lets keep things together?
Besides maybe take a look here, 141 pages of Atlantis right there, hey Stevemagegod ;)

No need to have parallel threads about the same thing, just saying.
My fault, I wasnt aware of that thread.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

There haqs been some proof of something off the coast of Cuba. Down about 5000 ft. Some bulding and a street grid found.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:49 PM

View Postwolfknight, on 05 March 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

There haqs been some proof of something off the coast of Cuba. Down about 5000 ft. Some bulding and a street grid found.
Oh, but how do they know that thats related to atlantis?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:22 AM

In ancient times they had authors like you do today.
Who's to say that Plato wasn't flirting with sciencefiction?

If it did exist maybe the inhabitants felt it wise to stop letting chosen individuals learn of certain technologies and had decided to "disappear" the colony?
Maybe, if it did exist, they were allowing a chosen few to learn things far beyond mankinds knowledge in hopes of advancing and helping mankind to achieve a level comparable to thier own. Maybe, the inhabitants misjudged mankinds motivations at the time and saw that man would take the new knowledge and try to conquer his neighbors instead of helping them. The temptation of power or power perceived is sometimes great when you know you have the advantage over another.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 05 March 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Oh, but how do they know that thats related to atlantis?

They don't, it's whishfull thinking. They can't even prove that it's actual ruins as such.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

I'd say "depends", I firmly believe that some airly advanced culture existed before Sumerian culture. was it as Edgar Cayce described with cytal tecnology and msgic doodahs? probbly not


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

I've been twice its santorini !!


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:13 PM

If you're looking for Atlantis......it's over in another forum.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 06 March 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

I'd say "depends", I firmly believe that some airly advanced culture existed before Sumerian culture. was it as Edgar Cayce described with cytal tecnology and msgic doodahs? probbly not

You're most likely right, if Göbekli Tepe is any indication, it comes down to how you would define "advanced culture". More than hunter-gatherers? City builders?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

I'd say "megalythic city builders on a par with Greece socially and technologically".
There's some suggestion that "Atlantis" was in Britain, both David Hatcher Childress and Philip Coppens suggest that (damnit, memory fails, I think it was...) Shewsbury was a good contender for "the city of Atlantis" as described by Plato.





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