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Poll: Do you believe that history repeats itself? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think History repeats itself

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  2. No (2 votes [7.14%] - View)

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  3. Maybe (1 votes [3.57%] - View)

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#16    Esoteric Toad

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:55 PM

Big wars? I do not think so. It will be more like many small wars, like a slow cancer. Economics is the battlefield today. Look at how quickly economies go from boom to bust. Political correctness has run amok here in the states and in the EU. PC has allowed for uncontrolled immigration (I have zero problem with immigrants, my grandparents were from Greece and my wife is from South Africa) and the complete legalization of illegals. It weakens us economically and is only happening here in the states to buy future votes.

Collapse an economy and then take over by money. That is my bet. I hear how great things are for China's economy.....too bad the people do not know what real freedom is (and I wonder if they could handle it?).

I do not think the US could handle a huge war like the World Wars today. The media is so liberal I cannot see the people getting behind a cause the magnitude of WWII for instance.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:30 PM

Well, "they" have to control us with fear one way or another :P

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:25 AM

I believe we'll be seeing more natural disasters occurring throughout the world this year before any full scale blown out wars. Never has the global atmosphere become so charged, so uncertain and so tenuous as it is now. February 2013 alone was inundated with earthquakes:  Japan (6.9), Solomon Islands (8.0), Columbia (7.0), Russia 2/14 - (6.9), 2/16 - Philippines (6.2), 2/6 - New Zealand North Island (6.0).  

After that, we started having things falling out of the sky:  2/15 Russia Urals Region - Meteor explodes in the air while shocking many on lookers below, and only hours later earth has its closest encounter with a passing asteroid known as DA14. Later, on this same evening, another bright blue light (fire ball) goes streaking over the San Francisco Bay area...imagine that, all within a 24 hr. period.  On 2/16 the following day in Miami, Florida another meteor goes blazing across the sky.

On 2/6/13 - Four volcanoes in Kamchatka, Russia erupted at the same time over a hundred miles apart, 2/9/13 in North East America an enormous blizzard hits -  6th largest snow fall on record in the US, immobilizing millions. On 2/11/13 - Hattiesburg, Miss. with an astounding 15 tornadoes reported on the same day, one after the other. On 2/20 - Powerful snowstorms, tornadoes, Arctic air was moving across the MidWest from Arizona to Illinois. On 2/21 - Sicily and Athens got hit with some violent storms and heavy rains and flooding.

Enough of the weather--I just wanted to point out that this all happened in the month of February alone. Also, the Pope stepped down, what's next?

The Middle East will probably be the main place we'll have to watch. I believe most of this has to do with the petro dolllars and oil. It seems like the US is picking off one nation at a time in the Middle East. I'm just wondering if the United States is down there just to upset the apple cart, while knowing that any further agressive military moves will eventually draw in the two other main super powers, Russia and China. I'm starting to think that is their real goal. If anything major is going to happen down there, I'd say it'll happen by about 2016. Just my guesses...maybe aliens will be the next thing we can expect to drop out of the sky onto this planet. :nw:

Edited by NiteMarcher, 16 March 2013 - 06:31 AM.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

"Those that do not remember History are doomed to repeat it"....

I believe this is a true statement.  One of the easiest places to see this is in the modern teachings about our Civil War.  It seems quaint and wonderful to say the Civil War was fought over slavery...and that is just not the truth.  Lincoln made it an issue well after the war was started to garner support from the northern states when Robert E Lee was kicking their butts.

There are those that will tell you that we need a major war.  It was only from the ashes of WW2 that America rose to it's power.  The rest of the industrialized world was in ruin...it had been flattened.  We became an economic power purely from the fact there was no competition.

North Korea and South Korea need to have it out all on their own.  We, China and Russia need to stay out of it.  Where the chips fall, so be it.  This is the natural course of things.  We won't though....neither will China or Russia.  They will manipulate the situation to what they think is to their own advantage.

As far as the middle east....as long as religion carries a card, there will never be peace.  It will not be fixed any time soon.  I personally have some jaded opinions about it.  "IF" Israel is "God's chosen"...then...let them stand or fall on their own.  It will do much for the religious idealism if the middle east rises against Israel and they hold their own.  Outside "interlopers" will not help answer the question.  I say...if Israel is truly the "chosen people"...let them prove it.  if they fall...oh well...I guess they weren't so special after all.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

Just like to update with saying that US and Isreal are not so friendly anymore and they ( News worldwide ) are now officaly saying that whole Iraq war or desert storm was nothing else than a resourse war, i would say it was the same case with bin laden if there ever was a binladen from afganistan.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

Disasters happen. That is just a fact. Part of the problem is that as we have more and more people those disasters will have higher and higher death counts. Modern media insures that every one of those disasters is brought right into our livingrooms and we will hear ALL about it. This will always give the impression that there are more and worse disasters than there used to be. The laws of probability insure that at times there WILL be more than at other times but just like a roulet wheel over time it WILL average out. People live such a short time that we can't see the cycle as it is but through looking at history you CAN get a glimpse.

Nature is random in most things in the short term OR it is truely cyclic in understood ways. A day happens every day because the earth turns. The sun puts out varying amounts of sunspots and light on an 11 year cycle and this in turn has effects here that are understood. BUT they are then used falsely by scientests to benifit from short term panics that they cause by making stupid forcasts based on silly short term data. They do this all the time. Remember the "Hole in the ozone layer"? When was the last time you heard anythiong about it? It closed!! We spent BILLIONS on converting our freon based on a STUPID theory that didn't have a bit of true validity but made a few scientists rich through federal funding. I remember when we were worrying about a possible iceage and NOW it is global warming  that's the buggerbear!

One thing that really does seem to be a cycle is people's stupidity and willingness to believe anything that they are told by supsedly knowledgable and trustworthy people in power. This leads to wars and what is called a silly season. It seems to run in a double humped hundred year cycle with another slightly smaller one in the middle. Look at a history timeline and check out the beginings and middle of the centuries. We are right on schedual for another world wide conflict. It seems to happen when people quit talking and understanding eachother. We start getting out openions and thoughts more from a central source than from others and so have a common mob mentality.

Wars start over lies. We were baited into Kiwait with tales of the bad ole Iraqis throwing infants out of incabators so they could be taken back to Iraq...seriously!! We went into Iraq based on a lie that Sadam HAD weapons of mass destruction. We are STILL there based on the lie that you can establish a Christian democracy in an Islamic country. Sorry children but Santa isn't real either.

Part of any big war is a period where the enemy is dehumanized. They are MONSTERS and as good people we HAVE to wipe them out. In order to do this it starts with lots of lies. We are in that stage right now and I expect things to get interesting over the next ten years. I think to a certain extent we have already passed  the expected date because of the modern changes in the speed of information transfer. It is harder to demonize someone when you can see pictures of them acting peaceful and hear them saying things contrary to the party line.

The Islamic nations and maybe North Korea are being prepared. More and more all you hear is about the bad people that ARE in deed doing bad things. Imagine if all you heard about America was about the Gang Bangers and  the Skin heads/ The greed and forclosures and people being tossed out of their homes by the greedy Imperialest rullers. Believe me they are being prepared just as we are. Sadly wars are how nations try and solve economic problems. Thos economic problems also seem to come in this same hundred year simicycle.

Oh well it does make life interesting I guess...

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

That is a very good comment Dan and that is exactly why i wanted to know if people think that some events may repeat.

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Look at a history timeline and check out the beginings and middle of the centuries.

This is the winner there is big tension in various parts of globe right now, literally waiting to explode Israel/Iran, Nk/Sk and there is Russian annoyance with US missile shield deployment all over the planet, Syria in civil war, soon maybe even US and many other countries. And still so much more bad situations unfolding..

For short there is alot of unrest worldwide at this time.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:36 PM

The same mistakes throughout history are constantly repeated.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:54 PM

If korea gets serious or if the israelites our buds get even more serious. But im thinking itll only be a korean war since china made its stand against them a bit. Who knows there are already a ton of conflicts out there so our world is at war.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:30 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 16 March 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

"Those that do not remember History are doomed to repeat it"....

I believe this is a true statement.  One of the easiest places to see this is in the modern teachings about our Civil War.  It seems quaint and wonderful to say the Civil War was fought over slavery...and that is just not the truth.  Lincoln made it an issue well after the war was started to garner support from the northern states when Robert E Lee was kicking their butts.

There are those that will tell you that we need a major war.  It was only from the ashes of WW2 that America rose to it's power.  The rest of the industrialized world was in ruin...it had been flattened.  We became an economic power purely from the fact there was no competition.

North Korea and South Korea need to have it out all on their own.  We, China and Russia need to stay out of it.  Where the chips fall, so be it.  This is the natural course of things.  We won't though....neither will China or Russia.  They will manipulate the situation to what they think is to their own advantage.

As far as the middle east....as long as religion carries a card, there will never be peace.  It will not be fixed any time soon.  I personally have some jaded opinions about it.  "IF" Israel is "God's chosen"...then...let them stand or fall on their own.  It will do much for the religious idealism if the middle east rises against Israel and they hold their own.  Outside "interlopers" will not help answer the question.  I say...if Israel is truly the "chosen people"...let them prove it.  if they fall...oh well...I guess they weren't so special after all.

Sorry, I do not believe that history repeats itself cause of peoples knowledge of history. Though I do believe history repeats itself and the main according to me is greed and pride. Greed makes you do stuff that you would never do normally. Pride the phrase "It happened to him but it will not happen to me"






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