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Welfare pays better then min. in most states


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#1    Sakari

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

Total Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than an $8 per hour job: 40
Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than a $12 per hour job: 7
Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher: 9


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:44 PM

i have been saying it for years, why look for  work that pays check, when you can get enough welfare (and medcaid, and food stamps) and still work for cash, and pay 0 taxes.

if you find job you loose food stamps and medicaid-the best medical ins, after gvmt cadillac plans. and you have to pay taxes

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

View Postaztek, on 09 March 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

i have been saying it for years, why look for  work that pays check, when you can get enough welfare (and medcaid, and food stamps) and still work for cash, and pay 0 taxes.

if you find job you loose food stamps and medicaid-the best medical ins, after gvmt cadillac plans. and you have to pay taxes


How do you get on welfare though?

I had lost a job, had a few months of not finding one, and could not even get food stamps, as they said my unemployment was enough.

I know what you mean though, makes me fricken sick.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:48 PM

Yes. Im curious if you threw disability SSI into your equation. Minimum wage is not profitable period !! Nor is upping the min wage. We have a wage vs cost of living issue and welfare has kept up with it a little bit better then minimum wage but not by much.

I believe I read somewhere that for the cost of living in the USA that the minimum wage should be somewhere around 28$


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:53 PM

after  unemployment runs out  one can apply for welfare, in nyc it is easy, in most cases you will get it, assuming you don't have a lot on your bank account,  not sure how much. also having assets matters as well.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:55 PM

If you can avoid the welfare system do so. It is an invasive species.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 09 March 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

If you can avoid the welfare system do so. It is an invasive species.


I did, I worked " side jobs " helping people around their homes and such, until I found a full time job. I do have self esteem :)

Min. wage in Oregon is around $8.00 a hour. Unemployment is $12.00 a hour for most. Something is wrong with this picture, and as you pointed out, neither are enough to survive on, unless you have no bills, and live in a one bedroom studio with a room mate, and have no heat or A/C/ on.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:20 PM

We should have a good comparative understanding of Oregon then as I live there as well.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 09 March 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

We should have a good comparative understanding of Oregon then as I live there as well.


3rd generation welfare ring a bell?

What area are you in?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

Eugene. No welfare here. I get food stamps as does a good percentage of my community. We have nothing but service jobs left here. Unless you count Govmnt/City jobs. Oregon is horrid for being a welfare state but we truly do not have the jobs for our population so its a lose lose in my opinion.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 09 March 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Eugene. No welfare here. I get food stamps as does a good percentage of my community. We have nothing but service jobs left here. Unless you count Govmnt/City jobs. Oregon is horrid for being a welfare state but we truly do not have the jobs for our population so its a lose lose in my opinion.

Understand, if I had not recently gotten a job with GP, me and the wife would be back in Nevada living with the mother in law, looking for work.

Sucks, love it here, but it is really for retiree's, and family business's.

Not sure about Eugene. I am on the coast, in between Bandon and Langlois, about 38 miles south of Coos Bay.

Will be in Eugene for a couple of Duck games this year though.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

It's tough to work in retail jobs (me and my wife do), in addition to my disability (SSI) I receive and we maintain a decent size income to support ourselves. I never collected welfare, nor unemployment and I been on my own on a low fixed income until I gotten married. We live in our means while hovering above the poverty line...but our socioeconomic level is worriesome.  

Sakari, Where you live is similar to the economics of the Palm Springs area: focused on retirees with millionaire type incomes and a large welfare state system for low-wage employees in the resort industry (hotels, condos, housing, landscaping, hospitality and agriculture), but locally the tourism, construction and real estate market industries shouldn't be too bad, though we had a deep recession when the housing bubble "burst" violently in the region of Southern Cal. 5-some years ago.

It appears there's a bigger incentive to apply and remain on welfare than work in a fast food job or be a school teacher, although my Mom knew two school teachers with husbands are in the upper-class brackets (their backgrounds) and not paid severely to a point they reside in the neighborhood my Mom and brother still live in is a gotten somewhat depressed section of town over 35 years she lived there.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:41 PM

View PostMike D boy, on 09 March 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

It's tough to work in retail jobs (me and my wife do), in addition to my disability (SSI) I receive and we maintain a decent size income to support ourselves. I never collected welfare, nor unemployment and I been on my own on a low fixed income until I gotten married. We live in our means while hovering above the poverty line...but our socioeconomic level is worriesome.  

Sakari, Where you live is similar to the economics of the Palm Springs area: focused on retirees with millionaire type incomes and a large welfare state system for low-wage employees in the resort industry (hotels, condos, housing, landscaping, hospitality and agriculture), but locally the tourism, construction and real estate market industries shouldn't be too bad, though we had a deep recession when the housing bubble "burst" violently in the region of Southern Cal. 5-some years ago.

It appears there's a bigger incentive to apply and remain on welfare than work in a fast food job or be a school teacher, although my Mom knew two school teachers with husbands are in the upper-class brackets (their backgrounds) and not paid severely to a point they reside in the neighborhood my Mom and brother still live in is a gotten somewhat depressed section of town over 35 years she lived there.



Very true...

If you do not have a family business, or farm, you can get into logging ( I am in a logging mill now ), or live on min. wage at a gas station.

Now, check out Bandon Dunes ( $275.00 green fee )....I had a interview for a Supervisor job over  Janitorial......Get this, $11.00 a hour, for a Supervisor job! This place has 5 top courses, is all ways in the top 10 gold courses in the world ( number 1 more then once ), and brings in Celebrity status people.......

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Unemployment I was getting ( I received one week before landing a job ) $12.05 a hour........People are just taking advantage now, actually have been, but at least at one time, people were paid a decent amount.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:55 PM

Socialism is the answer.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

View Postyearofthehater, on 09 March 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Socialism is the answer.

Only if the question is "what is the problem?"





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