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Exorcism: Is demonic possession real?


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Is demonic possession real?

  1. Yes (7 votes [35.00%])

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  2. No (13 votes [65.00%])

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#1    Render

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:21 AM

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The belief that demons exist and can possess people is of course the stuff of fiction and horror films — but it is also one of the most widely-held religious beliefs in the world. Most religions claim that humans can be possessed by demonic spirits (the Bible, for example, recounts six instances of Jesus casting out demons), and offer exorcisms to remedy this threat.
The idea that invading spirits are inherently evil is largely a Judeo-Christian concept; many religions and belief systems accept possession by both beneficent and malevolent entities for short periods of time as uncommon — and not especially alarming — aspects of spiritual life. Spiritualism, a religion that flourished across America in the 1800s and is still practiced in a few places today, teaches that death is an illusion and that spirits can possess humans. New Agers have also long embraced a form of possession called channeling, in which spirits of the dead are said to inhabit a medium's body and communicate through them. Hundreds of books, and even some symphonies, have been allegedly composed by spirits.

Real exorcisms
While many Americans think of real exorcisms as relics of the Dark Ages, exorcisms continue to be performed, often on people who are emotionally and mentally disturbed. Whether those undergoing the exorcism are truly possessed by spirits or demons is another matter entirely. Exorcisms are done on people of strong religious faith. To the extent that exorcisms "work," it is due to the power of suggestion and psychology: If you believe you're possessed (and that an exorcism will cure you), then it just might.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

I do believe there are spirits, an afterlife but as far as possession I'm not sure about that.  It could very well be possible but I be a vast majority of people that think they are possessed have mental illness.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:17 PM

Although like mentioned if a person has a strong faith an excorcism might be a powerful faith based psychotherapy.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 March 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Although like mentioned if a person has a strong faith an excorcism might be a powerful faith based psychotherapy.

Might being the key word. It was stated as fact above, which would make the thread question moot, if accurate.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:52 PM

View Post_Only, on 12 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:



Might being the key word. It was stated as fact above, which would make the thread question moot, if accurate.
In milder cases, usually in fundi churches it seems to act as a bit of a confessional. people get to feel forgiving or that their mistakes were not their fault and releif from guilt is the end result. Im Not  sure if I agree with it, but psychologically it could have some benefits for the person. But it would have to be built on legitimate faith.

Edited by Seeker79, 12 March 2013 - 02:52 PM.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

I believe in it.  Peoples behaviour can be affected by any number of outside influences.  Temperature, low frequency sounds, magnetic fields, electricity, etc.  So if demons exist, which I believe is likely, though many would name them extra dimensional beings, I don't think it would be far fetched that they used these and other tools to influence people.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:19 PM

~ Do I believe demon possession is possible?  Yes, I do.
~ Do I believe people can be unwillingly possessed by demons?  Leaning towards no, but I would not close the door on that answer
~ Do I believe the majority of exorcisms performed by religious fundamentalists are cases of demon possession?  Not at all, they can and do have other causes.

Assuming the answer being asked is the first one, then I'd vote yes.  If not, obviously not.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:22 PM

Define real?


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 March 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Although like mentioned if a person has a strong faith an excorcism might be a powerful faith based psychotherapy.

That seems logical. The one person I know that went through an exorcism isn't a person of faith, but the exorcism worked. Actually it was a series of exorcisms over several months. I tend to think it was real, but will never know for sure.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

I do belive theys real but it gets blown way out of proportions with faces turingg green and walking up side down on the ceiling thats Hollywood's version.
The exorist is based on real story from the 50's.the boy was useing the witch board
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 12:34 AM

No, no, no.......100%  positive no......I tried, many times, sometimes still do when bored, like right now......

" Demons enter my home, enter my soul, enter my body...I know you are all to scared, if you are not show me your not "

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Anyway, there just did it again......

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:21 AM

I was possessed twice by a demon trying to sit on Gods throne, speaking through me, masquerading as God like a babbling fool. His glory (deceit) was short lived! Psychiatry used to call schizophrenia demons. Demon possession has been validated for thousands of years and the demons have not gone away.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:56 AM

I've never seen demons possessing an armed sheriff's deputy or marine sniper. :P

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:31 AM

View PostSakari, on 13 March 2013 - 12:34 AM, said:

No, no, no.......100%  positive no......I tried, many times, sometimes still do when bored, like right now......

" Demons enter my home, enter my soul, enter my body...I know you are all to scared, if you are not show me your not "

( I would type in a bunch of seance stuff, and other things, but, been there, done that )

Anyway, there just did it again......

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:38 AM

View PostRon Jeremy, on 13 March 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

I've never seen demons possessing an armed sheriff's deputy or marine sniper. :P

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