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#16    TheLastLazyGun

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 14 March 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

I love the paranoia of the Mail. "Britain could be forced to hold European elections on Sundays as part of a blatant EU bid to erase our long democratic tradition."

oh no!! by holding them on a different day to our long democratic tradition (and let's be honest, since Women didn't even have the Vote on the same terms as men until 1928, it's not really that long a tradition, and not really very Democrtauic, is it), they're going to Destroy our Democratic Traditions and make us all bow down before the unelected Tyrants of Brussels!!

Perhaps it might be more convenient on a Sunday, actually, and more people might be able to do so.

They've been held on Thursdays since 1935.

This pointless meddling by Brussels is just that - pointless meddling.  What the hell has it got to do with foreign unelected bureaucrats in Belgium what days we hold our elections on?

Edited by TheLastLazyGun, 14 March 2013 - 03:06 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:02 PM

Don't blame brussels, blame corporate cronyism on behalf of your own decision makers.  Now no business has to do without employees who would normally leave early or not come in at all to vote.  Sounds to me like you're well on your way to becoming more like Americans.  Next they will cut you down to 10 vacation days a year but you will be too afraid to take more than 5.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:21 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 13 March 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

Because it wants to interfere with every aspects of our lives and make everything uniform across the EU.

So if the other 26 Member States have General Elections on Sundays then the British should stop being "different" and start holding theirs on Sundays, too, instead of the traditional Thursdays.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:34 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 14 March 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

I love the paranoia of the Mail. "Britain could be forced to hold European elections on Sundays as part of a blatant EU bid to erase our long democratic tradition."

Perhaps you should look at the bigger picture. It's the principle of yet again being told what to do by officials in Europe we never elected. We are a sovereign nation and should be able to do whatever we like; elect government on whatever day we want and refuse to give prisoners the vote if we like too.

The EU is a totalitarian state, we're made to think we're free when we're not.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 13 March 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

you have a point Keith but since they introduced the banana republic vote, IE postal voting there is no excuse, you get your polling card, weeks in advance, phone the number they send you the form you fill it in - return it - job done. - its made it easy to vote but my take on the issue is postal voting should only be for disabled people. and if people cannot be bothered getting their bum in gear and get to the polling station then more fool them.

As for the EU. its easier to hold it on Thursday and cheaper. because we have the local council elections on the Thursday. turnout in the european elections has been falling year on year. i cannot see the trend changing. because the trend is right across the EU. except in the countries where voting is mandatory.

You make a very valid point Steve if there are other Local elections going on at the same time. It would be cheaper to have the votes on a single day.

To be honest I just "Scanned" the OP and didn't take note that they are only talking about EU Elections. I would applaud any measure that actually increased turnout (Local elections are historically Low Turnout affairs) but it still comes down to general apathy toward these elections.

Not sure how the Postal Vote operates in the UK - it used to be reserved for Special Circumstances only (e.g. those working abroad, posted overseas in the Forces, or disabled) I didn't realise it was now offered to all.

I was on holiday in the USA last year for the Presidential Elections, and was surprised to discover that some States actually allowed Voting from 2 to 3 weeks prior to the Official Voting day - at least it gave them the opportunity to vote  it they were starting to feel poorly, or just couldn't get time off otherwise.

Although I am entitled to vote in UK Elections, my view is that those who actually Live overseas should have that entitlement removed because they no longer pay taxes to the UK Exchequer, or Local Taxes, so they should not have a say in electing those who apportion the taxes on behalf of those paying them. IMO


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 14 March 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

They've been held on Thursdays since 1935.

This pointless meddling by Brussels is just that - pointless meddling.  What the hell has it got to do with foreign unelected bureaucrats in Belgium what days we hold our elections on?
Well, if these are European elections (not, so far as seems to be apparent, national elections), then it doesn't seem unreasonable to have them all on the same day, does it? It only seems to be European elections that they're Meddling with, they don't seem to be plotting to meddle with the time honoured pantomime that is General elections. If they really wanted to conspire against UKIP by ensuring a low turnout, then they'd have Plotted to keep them on an awkward day, I'd have thought. This might make a higher turnout, and the way things are going that might work in UKIP's favour.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

View PostThe Skater Boy, on 14 March 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

Perhaps you should look at the bigger picture. It's the principle of yet again being told what to do by officials in Europe we never elected. We are a sovereign nation and should be able to do whatever we like; elect government on whatever day we want and refuse to give prisoners the vote if we like too.

The EU is a totalitarian state, we're made to think we're free when we're not.

You (if old enough) never elected any Officials (as opposed to representatives by Universal Suffrage) in the UK either!

No.. there is no mechanism for voting directly for the Cronies that make up the European Commission (this was blocked by the UK) - BUT , IF old enough to vote then you certainly voted for the MEP's (Members of the European Parliament), and more importantly, you would have voted for the Council of Ministers (as this is made up of elected MP's), and these are the People who actually bring proposals into Law.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:49 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 14 March 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

You (if old enough) never elected any Officials (as opposed to representatives by Universal Suffrage) in the UK either!

No.. there is no mechanism for voting directly for the Cronies that make up the European Commission (this was blocked by the UK) - BUT , IF old enough to vote then you certainly voted for the MEP's (Members of the European Parliament), and more importantly, you would have voted for the Council of Ministers (as this is made up of elected MP's), and these are the People who actually bring proposals into Law.

Tehe, I'm more than old enough to vote. Let me know when I can vote for the President of Europe! Let me know when my country can give Europe a middle finger when it demands we change laws to comply with European law!

The irony for me is, Hitler got what he wanted in the end...just went the wrong way about it, clearly :P

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostThe Skater Boy, on 14 March 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

Tehe, I'm more than old enough to vote. Let me know when I can vote for the President of Europe! Let me know when my country can give Europe a middle finger when it demands we change laws to comply with European law!

The irony for me is, Hitler got what he wanted in the end...just went the wrong way about it, clearly :P

You cant, as I explained - a direct election to this post was vetoed by the UK (it actually never got to a Veto because it was clear that this Political Instrument would be used by the UK). You have clearly not read my response because UK Ministers, UK MEP's, and UK Govt have got to agree to write any Laws into UK National Law.

Are you sure you are old enough to vote (Spike isn't it)? - because your last sentence shows absolute ignorance of Political Process, The Lisbon Treaty, and the Treaty of Acscession. Have you even heard of Godwin's Law???

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:28 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 14 March 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

You cant, as I explained - a direct election to this post was vetoed by the UK (it actually never got to a Veto because it was clear that this Political Instrument would be used by the UK). You have clearly not read my response because UK Ministers, UK MEP's, and UK Govt have got to agree to write any Laws into UK National Law.

Are you sure you are old enough to vote (Spike isn't it)? - because your last sentence shows absolute ignorance of Political Process, The Lisbon Treaty, and the Treaty of Acscession. Have you even heard of Godwin's Law???

It's not really that simple... such as the demanding we give prisoners the right to vote because it breaches European law... the British government is in no position to defy Europe. Especially when it throws around the "human rights breach" line.

I'm old enough to know the European Union is not and never will be a democratic power. I thought someone would get butthurt over the Hitler line :P I have heard of that and hey, he wanted to control Europe with a fascist leader and right now... well, we seem to have a unified Europe with a leader who isn't elected :tu: doesn't seem like I pulled a comparison out of nothing there. Seems pretty logical. Tell me all you like how we supposedly elect people into the European Parliament but the fact remains that the man in charge was never elected by the people. Keep telling me how the British government has to agree to allow Europe to change the law when they really don't.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

When it comes to voting day on Thursday there's only one or two things that spring to my mind after a hard day of graft.It isn't wasting precious minutes in the claustrophobic confines of a polling booth.It's what's on my dinner plate or how many smokes I need to relieve the tension of my grafting.It'll be a brilliant day if everybody abstained from voting.Can you imagine what that would do to a polictican's head.Having the carpet swept from under their feet after all that rebel- rousing,campaigning and spectulative promises.It'll be a cold day in hell though before that happens.Even if it's only the lower and the lower middle classes that abstained it'll be down to the rest to put somebody in charge.I can absolutely assure you it won't be the Green Party that will be holding the purse- strings.

Because we are such a pagan country the churches will be doubling up as Polling Stations anyway.I can't imagine why somebody would go to all that trouble on a supposed day of rest.

Btw not only am I an Euro sceptic but a Politico sceptic.You can take that to the bank.

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