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#196    skyeagle409

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 06:22 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 06 April 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

I've lost count, Sky, of the numbers of government officials implicated in the crimes and cover up.

If you had checked your calculator, it contained no batteries, which is why you haven't been getting the right numbers.

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All 3 branches of the federal government, and a number of supervisors at FAA and other federal agencies have been implicated.

False!! No government employee has been arrested nor charged and look what you posted, which once again, proves you wrong
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 06:26 PM

It proves the system is utterly corrupt, and we both know it.


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 06 April 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

It proves the system is utterly corrupt, and we both know it.

That won't work for you because American Airlines and United Airlines confirmed the loss of their aircraft on 911 as well.

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United Airlines Statement on Plane Crashes

Following is a statement issued by United Airlines on the crash of Flight 93 near Pittsburgh and Flight 175 in a location that was not immediately disclosed:
United Airlines has now confirmed that two of its aircraft have crashed.

— UA 93, a Boeing 757 aircraft, departed from Newark, N.J. at 8:01 a.m. local time, bound for San Francisco, with 38 passengers on board, two pilots, five flight attendants.

— UA 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, departed from Boston at 7:58 a.m. local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers on board, two pilots and seven flight attendants.

http://www.washingto..._text091101.htm





In other words, there is no evidence of a government 911 conspiracy because there was no government 911 conspiracy, which explains why you have been unable to post evidence.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 07:04 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 06 April 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

I've lost count, Sky, of the numbers of government officials implicated in the crimes and cover up.  All 3 branches of the federal government, and a number of supervisors at FAA and other federal agencies have been implicated.

You yourself may not be aware of that, but many other people are.
yes, and that's the whole exact point, isn't it. All these officials and people that must have been implicated, and in 11 years, none of them have ever stepped forward with undeniable proof of a crime and a cover up. Was the Government, now as well as then, that ruthless that it's managed to suppress everyone, or are all the people that were involved themselves so ruthless and/or brainwashed that none of them have veer beend riven by their conscience to speak out? Please don't say "$$$ can keep mouths shut", as I'm afraid I simply don't believe that that's good enough.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

Pleased to make your acquaintance, Colonel.

It seems you might be one of those people who need a signed confession from Dubya, Dick, Rummy, Zakheim, Hellerstein, or any of the others so deeply implicated in either the events of the day or the ongoing coverup?  Before you can understand what happened, are you suggesting you need Brian Williams to admit on TV that he and his supervisors deliberately did not cover certain angles or tell certain stories, such as the story of Rodriguez at WTC or Wally Miller at Shanksville?

That you do not recognize the power of money to compel behavior, or silence, suggests you are not that familiar with how some humans can be motivated.

Some are motivated by conscience, as you say, but some not so much.  Money and wealth are powerful motivators, but certainly there are many other factors, goals and agenda that can motivate humans.  "Loose lips sink ships" is not exactly a new idea.

Have you any opinion on why so many members of the 911 Commission were critical of the way it was run and the conclusions it reached, and expressed that criticism in public?  Or why Brian Williams and others have not taken that and run with it?


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 07 April 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Pleased to make your acquaintance, Colonel.

We've met before, babe.
That sounds so wrong.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 04:32 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 07 April 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

It seems you might be one of those people who need a signed confession from Dubya, Dick, Rummy, Zakheim, Hellerstein, or any of the others so deeply implicated in either the events of the day or the ongoing coverup?  Before you can understand what happened, are you suggesting you need Brian Williams to admit on TV that he and his supervisors deliberately did not cover certain angles or tell certain stories, such as the story of Rodriguez at WTC...

Were you aware that William Rodriguez has been caught lying and is no longer credible?

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A summary of many of Rodriguez's false claims is here.

January, 2009: Contrary to William Rodriguez' repeated claims that his June, 2004 interview with 9/11 Commission staffers was covered up, the staffers' notes of that interview have been made available to the public, along with a great deal of 9/11 Commission documents, as scheduled. Mike Williams of 911myths.com has obtained, scanned, and made available those notes here and here.


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or Wally Miller at Shanksville?

You mean, where Wallly Miller slams 911 Truthers for their brand of disinformation and distorting his comments?



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That you do not recognize the power of money to compel behavior, or silence, suggests you are not that familiar with how some humans can be motivated.

Are you claiming that American Airlines, Boeing company, and United Airlines were offered money to keep quiet?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:22 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 07 April 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

We've met before, babe.
That sounds so wrong.

I was going to ask you how you pronounced the name, but since we're not actually speaking to each other I passed. :yes:

So is it your position that people cannot be bribed?


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:30 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 07 April 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

So is it your position that people cannot be bribed?

You should understand that bribes offer no guarantees.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:04 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 07 April 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Were you aware that William Rodriguez has been caught lying and is no longer credible?

their is something we do agree on

http://alteredge.myf...__about280.html


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:43 AM

I think this continuous 9/11 "troother" crap is a disgrace to this site.
Who wants to be associated with the deluded idiots who perpetuate this.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:16 AM

View Postpoppet, on 08 April 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

their is something we do agree on

http://alteredge.myf...__about280.html

On the second video at time line 5:10 onward, the guy says there was no Arab name on the manifest, so let's take a look at the manifest he claimed, contained no Arab name.




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As you can see, that guy deliberately lied through his teeth because there were Arab names on the manifest.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:21 AM

View PostZaphod222, on 08 April 2013 - 02:43 AM, said:

I think this continuous 9/11 "troother" crap is a disgrace to this site.
Who wants to be associated with the deluded idiots who perpetuate this.

There was nothing but trash emanating from those videos.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:31 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 07 April 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

I was going to ask you how you pronounced the name, but since we're not actually speaking to each other I passed. :yes:

So is it your position that people cannot be bribed?
Why are we not speaking? of course people can be bribed, but how many must have been involved in this plot? You said yourself that the number staggers you. And on every single one of these, $$$ had its magical effect, did it? Not one of them were troubled by their conscience enough to blow the Whistle? And this is rather more than your average Government coverup; this would have been one of the greatest crimes of the century, if not of all of Human history. I'm afraid I don't believe that bribes would have been sufficient to keep all of them quiet, no.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 05 April 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

There is direct evidence, and circumstantial evidence.  Both are valid, though direct has more weight in deliberations than does circumstantial.

Regarding an analysis of the events of 11 September we have both direct and circumstantial.  Far more of the latter than of the former, and there is a cumulative effect, as in the PREPONDERANCE of the evidence as used in US civil trials.

I cannot imagine whereby circumstantial evidence would trump direct evidence.

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