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#286    shrooma

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:54 PM

you've GOTTA be kidding, right?!
NINETEEN pages on how the twin towers were brought down by atomic bombs??
did they photoshop the planes in then or what??
NINETEEN PAGES!
that's a longer streak of s*!t than a stampeding herd of diahorritic camels!
what, no aliens?
I thought super-secret space-based particle beam weapons were the answer & nukes were old hat?!
gotta move with the times when it comes to CT's poppet or you'll just get left behind in the search for the ''truth''.
nukes brought down the WTC, hilarious!!

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

oop!
TWENTY pages!
my mistake.....

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

Posted Image

Ba Barium
Sr Strontium
Zn Zinc
Pb Lead
Cu Copper
Ce Cerium
Y Yttrium
Cr Chromium
Ni Nickel
La Lanthanum

Posted Image

Barium & Strontium by Jeff Prager

These elements are wholly out of place and do not belong in these samples
at these levels. In fact, they don’t belong in these samples at all, really. But,
accounting for the fact that there are always disbelievers we’ll plot these
elements and discover their intimate relationships based on all various levels
across all sampling locations.
The levels never fall below 400ppm for Barium and they never drop below
700ppm for Strontium and they reach over 3000ppm for both of them
at WTC01-16, Broadway and John Streets. Why? Barium and Strontium
are rare Trace elements with limited industrial uses. Strontium salts are
mainly used to produce the red color in fireworks and Barium is used in
some paints, in the manufacture of some glass products (CRT screens) and
in vacuum tubes. Both elements are highly toxic, their levels are unprecedented,
neither have building applications and shouldn’t be present in
building rubble and neither are valid in even Trace amounts, which would
be less then 10ppm or 10mg/kg.
The enormous peak in Barium and Strontium concentration at WTC01-16
is readily apparent (chart at right). The concentration of the two elements
reaches 3670ppm for Strontium and 3130 for Barium or over 0.3% by
weight of the dust. This means that 0.37% of the sample was Barium and
0.31% of the sample was Strontium by weight at that location, WTC01-16,
Broadway and John Streets. This is higher then the Titanium concentration
at WTC01-16 of 0.25% or 2500ppm and higher then the Titanium Mean or
average of 0.26% or 2600ppm.
Quite simply, this is astronomical. Barium and Strontium compounds are
not valid constituents of concrete or any other building material including
glass, aluminum, plaster and steel. They should not be there at these levels.
Even at the other sampling locations the concentration does not fall below
400ppm for either Barium or Strontium, which is still an astronomically
high level for these elements.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:02 PM

View Postpoppet, on 29 May 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:



What you have just posted reconfirmed that thermite was not used during the 911 attacks.

Edited by skyeagle409, 29 May 2013 - 05:03 PM.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:08 PM

View Postshrooma, on 29 May 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

you've GOTTA be kidding, right?!
NINETEEN pages on how the twin towers were brought down by atomic bombs??
did they photoshop the planes in then or what??
NINETEEN PAGES!
that's a longer streak of s*!t than a stampeding herd of diahorritic camels!
what, no aliens?
I thought super-secret space-based particle beam weapons were the answer & nukes were old hat?!
gotta move with the times when it comes to CT's poppet or you'll just get left behind in the search for the ''truth''.
nukes brought down the WTC, hilarious!!

the only thing i see as hilarious .......is some believe Bin Ladin  and his 19 merry men orchestrated the events of that day , i would say the probability that Mossad took the towers out and some members of the American government knew the time and date and hit the pentagon and wtc 7.thats my Occam's Razor .

America went to war doing the bidding of others (Israeli's)and
now we are all suffering blow back with more radicalized Muslims seeking to take revenge for the complete distruction of there homeland.

chickens coming home to roast come to mind does it not.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:17 PM

View Postpoppet, on 29 May 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

the only thing i see as hilarious .......is some believe Bin Ladin  and his 19 merry men orchestrated the events of that day ,...

Not too difficult. After all, one person took over PSA 1771 and killed all of those onboard. Another lone hijacker took over a Pacific Airlines aircraft and killed everyone onboard as well. In the Pacific Airlines incident, the captain was the father of a friend of mine.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:26 PM

View Postpoppet, on 29 May 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Posted Image

Ba Barium
Sr Strontium
Zn Zinc
Pb Lead
Cu Copper
Ce Cerium
Y Yttrium
Cr Chromium
Ni Nickel
La Lanthanum

Posted Image

Barium & Strontium by Jeff Prager

These elements are wholly out of place and do not belong in these samples
at these levels. In fact, they dont belong in these samples at all, really. But,
accounting for the fact that there are always disbelievers well plot these
elements and discover their intimate relationships based on all various levels
across all sampling locations.
The levels never fall below 400ppm for Barium and they never drop below
700ppm for Strontium and they reach over 3000ppm for both of them
at WTC01-16, Broadway and John Streets. Why? Barium and Strontium
are rare Trace elements with limited industrial uses. Strontium salts are
mainly used to produce the red color in fireworks and Barium is used in
some paints, in the manufacture of some glass products (CRT screens) and
in vacuum tubes. Both elements are highly toxic, their levels are unprecedented,
neither have building applications and shouldnt be present in
building rubble and neither are valid in even Trace amounts, which would
be less then 10ppm or 10mg/kg.
The enormous peak in Barium and Strontium concentration at WTC01-16
is readily apparent (chart at right). The concentration of the two elements
reaches 3670ppm for Strontium and 3130 for Barium or over 0.3% by
weight of the dust. This means that 0.37% of the sample was Barium and
0.31% of the sample was Strontium by weight at that location, WTC01-16,
Broadway and John Streets. This is higher then the Titanium concentration
at WTC01-16 of 0.25% or 2500ppm and higher then the Titanium Mean or
average of 0.26% or 2600ppm.
Quite simply, this is astronomical. Barium and Strontium compounds are
not valid constituents of concrete or any other building material including
glass, aluminum, plaster and steel. They should not be there at these levels.
Even at the other sampling locations the concentration does not fall below
400ppm for either Barium or Strontium, which is still an astronomically
high level for these elements.
.
do you have any ''evidence'' that's NOT taken from conspiracy websites? you know, INDEPENDENT sources? not from people with books to sell/mental health issues? or would you consider them all to be Govt. stooges spreading CIA propaganda....?
hell, why am I even responding to this paranoid twaddle??
forget I mentioned anything, and good luck with the fantasy......

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:33 PM

View Postpoppet, on 29 May 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:



the only thing i see as hilarious .......is some believe Bin Ladin  and his 19 merry men orchestrated the events of that day , i would say the probability that Mossad took the towers out and some members of the American government knew the time and date and hit the pentagon and wtc 7.thats my Occam's Razor .

America went to war doing the bidding of others (Israeli's)and
now we are all suffering blow back with more radicalized Muslims seeking to take revenge for the complete distruction of there homeland.

chickens coming home to roast come to mind does it not.
.
honestly man, you gotta stop seeing conspiracies & NWO threats everywhere, it's not healthy!
you're obviously not daft, stop thinking everything's out to get you and have a bit more fun, you know it makes more sense....!
:-)

View Postpoppet, on 29 May 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

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*edit for multiple post*

Edited by shrooma, 29 May 2013 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:07 PM

View Postpoppet, on 29 May 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

the only thing i see as hilarious .......is some believe Bin Ladin  and his 19 merry men orchestrated the events of that day

Even the FBI know and knew Bin Laden had nothing to do with it. After all, 9/11 isn't even listed on the most wanted page! You'd think it would be...

"Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."

http://www.fbi.gov/w...usama-bin-laden

All Bush did is pointed and said "Bin Laden did it" and everybody bought it hook, line and sinker. It's amazing what a government can get away with these days and just blame it on "men in caves"...

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:14 PM

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Even the FBI know and knew Bin Laden had nothing to do with it. After all, 9/11 isn't even listed on the most wanted page! You'd think it would be...

"Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."

http://www.fbi.gov/w...usama-bin-laden

All Bush did is pointed and said "Bin Laden did it" and everybody bought it hook, line and sinker. It's amazing what a government can get away with these days and just blame it on "men in caves"...

Let's take another look at warnings that were directed at the U.S. government.

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The Bojinka Plot as Revealed by the Philippine Government

Phase III, CIA plane crash plot: Abdul Hakim Murad confessed detailed Phase III in his interrogation by the Manila police after his capture.

Phase three would have involved Murad either renting, buying, or hijacking a small airplane, preferably a Cessna. The airplane would be filled with explosives. He would then crash it into the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in the Langley area in Fairfax County, Virginia. Murad had been trained as a pilot in North Carolina, and was slated to be a suicide pilot.

There were alternate plans to hijack a 12th commercial airliner and use that instead of the small aircraft, probably due to the Manila cell's growing frustration with explosives. Testing explosives in a house or apartment is dangerous, and it can easily give away a terrorist plot. Khalid Sheik Mohammed probably made the alternate plan.

A report from the Philippines to the United States on January 20, 1995 stated, "What the subject has in his mind is that he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters."

Another plot that was considered would have involved the hijacking of more airplanes. The World Trade Center (New York City, New York), The Pentagon (Arlington, Virginia), the United States Capitol (Washington, D.C.), the White House (Washington, D.C.), the Sears Tower (Chicago, Illinois), and the U.S Bank Tower (Los Angeles, California), would have been the likely targets.

Abdul Hakim Murad said that this part of the plot was dropped since the Manila cell could not recruit enough people to implement other hijackings in his confession with Filipino investigators, prior to the foiling of Operation Bojinka.
This plot eventually would be the base plot for the September 11, 2001 attacks which involved hijacking commercial airliners as opposed to small aircraft loaded with explosives and crashing them into their intended targets. However, only the World Trade Center (which was destroyed) and The Pentagon (which suffered partial damage) were hit.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Bojinka_plot

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WARNINGS THAT THE DANGER WOULD COME FROM THE AIR

BRITAIN, WARNING #1: Al-Qaeda is planning to use aircraft in "unconventional ways", "possibly as flying bombs"

1999 ©: MI6, the British intelligence agency, gives a secret report to liaison staff at the US embassy in London. The reports states that al-Qaeda has plans to use "commercial aircraft" in "unconventional ways", "possibly as flying bombs." [Sunday Times, 6/9/02]

BRITAIN, WARNING #2: Al-Qaeda is the "final stages" of a very serious attack on a Western country

July 16, 2001: British spy agencies send a report to British Prime Minister Tony Blair and other top officials warning that al-Qaeda is in "the final stages" of preparing a terrorist attack in the West. The prediction is "based on intelligence gleaned not just from MI6 and GCHQ but also from US agencies, including the CIA and the National Security Agency," which cooperate with the British. "The contents of the July 16 warning would have been passed to the Americans, Whitehall sources confirmed." The report states there is "an acute awareness" that the attack is "a very serious threat." [London Times, 6/14/02] This information could be from or in addition to a warning based on surveillance of al-Qaeda prisoner Khalid al-Fawwaz (see August 21, 2001). [Fox News, 5/17/02]

BRITAIN, WARNING #3: An Al-Qaeda attack will involve multiple hijackings

Early August 2001 ©: Britain gives the US another warning about an al-Qaeda attack.The previous British warning (see July 16, 2001) was vague as to method, but this warning specifies multiple airplane hijackings. This warning is included in Bush's briefing on August 6. [Sunday Herald, 5/19/02]

CAYMAN ISLANDS, WARNING #2: Three al-Qaeda agents are part of a plot "organizing a major terrorist act against the US via an airline or airlines"

August 29, 2001: Three men from either Pakistan or Afghanistan living in the Cayman Islands are briefly arrested in June 2001 for discussing hijacking attacks in New York City (see June 4, 2001). On this day, a Cayman Islands radio station receives an unsigned letter claiming these same three men are agents of bin Laden. The anonymous author warns that they "are organizing a major terrorist act against the US via an airline or airlines." The letter is forwarded to a Cayman government official but no action is taken until after 9/11 and it isn't known when the US is informed. Many criminals and/or businesses use the Cayman Islands as a safe, no tax, no questions asked haven to keep their money. The author of the letter meets with the FBI shortly after 9/11, and claims his information was a "premonition of sorts." The three men are later arrested. Its unclear what has happened to them since their arrest. [Miami Herald, 9/20/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01,MSNBC, 9/23/01] FTW

EGYPT, WARNING #1: An undercover agent learns 20 al-Qaeda agents are in the US, four have received flight training

Late July 2001 (D): CBS later has a brief mention in a long story on another topic: "Just days after Atta return[s] to the US from Spain, Egyptian intelligence in Cairo says it received a report from one of its operatives in Afghanistan that 20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas. To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn't sound terribly alarming, but they [pass] on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. The request never [comes]." [CBS, 10/9/02] This appears to be one of several accurate Egyptian warnings based on informants

GERMANY: Terrorists will use airplanes as weapons to attack "American and Israeli symbols"

June 2001: German intelligence warns the CIA, Britain's MI6, and Israel's Mossad that Middle Eastern terrorists are planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack "American and Israeli symbols, which stand out." A later article quotes unnamed German intelligence sources who state the information was coming from Echelon surveillance technology, and that British intelligence had access to the same warnings. However, there were other informational sources, including specific information and hints given to, but not reported by, Western and Near Eastern news media six months before 9/11. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01, Fox News, 5/17/02] FTW

ITALY: Muslims warn of an attack on the US and Britain using hijacked airplanes as weapons

September 7, 2001: Father Jean-Marie Benjamin is told at a wedding in Todi, Italy of a plot to attack the US and Britain using hijacked airplanes as weapons. He isn't told time or place specifics. He immediately passes what he knows to a judge and several politicians. He states: "Although I am friendly with many Muslims, I wondered why they were telling me, specifically. I felt it my duty to inform the Italian government." Benjamin has been called "one of the West's most knowledgeable experts on the Muslim world." Two days after 9/11, he meets with the Italian Foreign Minister on this topic. He says he learned the attack on Britain failed at the last minute. [Zenit, 9/16/01] He has not revealed who told him this information, but could it have been a member of the al-Qaeda cell in Milan (see August 12, 2000 and January 24, 2001), which appears to have helped with the 9/11 attacks?

JORDAN: A major attack using aircraft is planned inside the US

Late summer 2001: Jordanian intelligence (the GID) makes a communications intercept deemed so important that King Abdullah's men relay it to Washington, probably through the CIA station in Amman. To make doubly sure the message gets through it is passed through an Arab intermediary to a German intelligence agent. The message states that a major attack, code named The Big Wedding, is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. "When it became clear that the information was embarrassing to Bush Administration officials and congressmen who at first denied that there had been any such warnings before September 11, senior Jordanian officials backed away from their earlier confirmations." Christian Science Monitor calls the story "confidently authenticated" even though Jordan has backed away from it. [International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/02] FTW

RUSSIA: Russian intelligence clearly warns the US several times that 25 or so terrorists, including suicide pilots, will attack the US, targeting "important buildings like the Pentagon"

August 2001: Russian President Putin warns the US that suicide pilots are training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02] The head of Russian intelligence also later states, "We had clearly warned them" on several occasions, but they "did not pay the necessary attention." [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/01] A Russian newspaper on September 12, 2001 claims that "Russian Intelligence agents know the organizers and executors of these terrorist attacks. More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation to these actions a couple of weeks before they happened." Interestingly, the article claims that at least two of the terrorists were Muslim radicals from Uzbekistan. [Izvestia, 9/12/01,

AFGHANISTAN: Al-Qaeda is planning an imminent "huge attack" inside the US that will kill thousands

ARGENTINA: A major terrorist attack is planned against either the US, Argentina, or FranceLate July 2001: The Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil learns that bin Laden is planning a "huge attack" on targets inside America. The attack is imminent, and will kill thousands. He learns this from Tahir Yildash, leader of the rebel Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), which is allied with al-Qaeda at the time. Muttawakil sends an emissary to pass this information on to the US consul general, and another US official, "possibly from the intelligence services," also attends the meeting.

The message is not taken very seriously; one source blames this on "warning fatigue" from too many warnings. Also, supposedly the emissary was from the Foreign Ministry, but didn't say the message came from Muttawakil himself. The emissary then takes the message to the Kabul offices of UNSMA, the political wing of the UN. They also fail to take the warning seriously. [Independent, 9/7/02, Reuters, 9/7/02] Isn't it ironic the US destroyed the Taliban, who tried to warn them of the attacks?

Late July 2001: Argentina's Jewish community receives warnings of a major terrorist attack against either the United States, Argentina or France from "a foreign intelligence source." The warning was then relayed to the Argentine security authorities. It was agreed to keep the warning secret in order to avoid panic while reinforcing security at Jewish sites in the country. Says a Jewish leader, "It was a concrete warning that an attack of major proportion would take place, and it came from a reliable intelligence source. And I understand the Americans were told about it." Argentina has a large Jewish community that has been bombed in the past, and has been an area of al-Qaeda activity. [Forward, 5/31/02]

CAYMAN ISLANDS, WARNING #1: June 4, 2001: At some point in 2000, three men claiming to be Afghans but using Pakistani passports enter the Cayman Islands, possibly illegally. [Miami Herald, 9/20/01]

In late 2000, Cayman and British investigators begin a yearlong probe of these men which lasts until 9/11. [Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01] They are overheard discussing hijacking attacks in New York City. On this day, they are taken into custody, questioned and released some time later. This information is forwarded to US intelligence. [Fox News, 5/17/02]

In late August, a letter to a Cayman radio station will allege these same men are agents of bin Laden "organizing a major terrorist act against the US via an airline or airlines" (see August 29, 2001).

EGYPT, WARNING #2: Al-Qaeda is in the advanced stages of a "significant operation" probably within the US

August 30-September 4, 2001: According to Egyptian President Hasni Mubarak, Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that bin Laden's network is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US. [AP, 12/7/01, New York Times, 6/4/02] He says he learned this information from an agent working inside al-Qaeda. US officials deny receiving any such warning from Egypt. [ABC News, 6/4/02]

FRANCE: An echo of Israel's warning of a major assault on the US

Late August 2001 (D): French intelligence gives a general terrorist warning to the US; apparently its contents echo an Israeli warning from earlier in the month (see Mid-August 2001). [Fox News, 5/17/02]

INDIA: Missed opportunity with White House attack warning

July 2001: India gives the US general intelligence on possible terror attacks; details are not known. US government officials later confirm that Indian intelligence had information "that two Islamist radicals with ties to Osama bin Laden were discussing an attack on the White House," but apparently this particular information is not given to the US until two days after 9/11. [Fox News, 5/17/02]

ISRAEL, WARNING #1: 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists are inside the US and planning an imminent "major assault on the US" aimed at a "large scale target"

August 8-15, 2001: At some point between these dates, Israel warns the US that an al-Qaeda attack is imminent. [Fox News, 5/17/02] Two high ranking agents from the Mossad come to Washington and warn the FBI and CIA that from 50 to 200 terrorists have slipped into the US and are planning "a major assault on the United States." They say indications point to a "large scale target", and that Americans would be "very vulnerable." They add there could be Iraqi connections to the al-Qaeda attack. [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01] The Los Angeles Times later retracts the story after a CIA spokesman says,

ISRAEL, WARNING #2: Israel gives the US a list of 19 terrorists inside the US planning an imminent attack, the list names at least four of the hijackers, including Mohamed Atta

August 23, 2001: According to German newspapers, the Mossad gives the CIA a list of terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future. It is unknown if these are the 19 9/11 hijackers or if the number is a coincidence. However, four names on the list are known and are names of the 9/11 hijackers: Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi, and Mohamed Atta. [Die Zeit, 10/1/02, Der Spiegel, 10/1/02, BBC, 10/2/02,Haaretz, 10/3/02] The Mossad appears to have learned about this through its "art student" spy ring (see for instance, March 5, 2002). Yet apparently this warning and list are not treated as particularly urgent by the CIA and also not passed on to the FBI. It's not clear if this warning influenced the adding of Alhazmi and Almihdhar to a terrorism watch list on this same day, and if so, why only those two. [Der Spiegel, 10/1/02] Israel has denied that there were any Mossad agents in the US. [Haaretz, 10/3/02] The US has denied knowing about Atta before 9/11, despite other media reports to the contrary (see January-May 2000).

MOROCCO: Al-Qaeda is planning large scale operations in New York City in the fall of 2001, possibly targeting the World Trade Center

August 2001 ©: The French magazine Maximale and the Moroccan newspaper al-Ittihad al-Ichtiraki later simultaneously report that a Moroccan agent named Hassan Dabou had penetrated al-Qaeda to the point of getting close to bin Laden by this time. Dabou claims he learns that bin Laden is "very disappointed" that the 1993 bombing had not toppled the WTC, and plans "large scale operations in New York in the summer or fall of 2001." Dabou is called to the US to report this information directly, and in so doing blows his cover, losing his ability to gather more intelligence.

The International Herald Tribune later calls the story "not proved beyond a doubt" but intriguing, and asks the CIA to confirm or deny, which it has not done. [Agence France Presse, 11/22/01, International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, London Times, 6/12/02] FTW


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:18 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 29 May 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

Let's take another look at warnings that were directed at the U.S. government.

Is half of this from the same "intelligence" groups that swore blind Saddam had WMD....?

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:27 PM

Who knows what kind of recruitment policies were being practiced to further the ambitions of the powers that be ...


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Operation Paperclip was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program used to recruit the scientists of Nazi Germany for employment by the United States in the aftermath of World War II (1939–45). It was conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), and in the context of the burgeoning Soviet–American Cold War (1945–91), one purpose of Operation Paperclip was to deny German scientific knowledge and expertise to the USSR,[1] the UK,[2] and (divided) Germany itself.
Although the JIOA's recruitment of German scientists began after the European Allied victory (8 May 1945), US President Harry Truman did not formally order the execution of Operation Paperclip until August 1945. Truman's order expressly excluded anyone found "to have been a member of the Nazi Party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism". However, those restrictions would have rendered ineligible most of the leading scientists the JIOA had identified for recruitment, among them rocket scientists Wernher von Braun, Kurt Debus and Arthur Rudolph, and the physician Hubertus Strughold, each earlier classified as a "menace to the security of the Allied Forces".

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Operation Paperclip (also Project Paperclip) was the code name for the O.S.S.–U.S. Military rescue of scientists from Nazi Germany, during the terminus and aftermath of World War II. In 1945, the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency was established with direct responsibility for effecting Operation Paperclip.
Following the failure of the German invasion of the Soviet Union (codenamed Operation Barbarossa), and (to a lesser extent) the entry of the U.S. into the war, the strategic position of Germany was at a disadvantage since German military industries were unprepared for a long war. As a result, Germany began efforts in spring 1943 to recall scientists and technical personnel from combat units to places where their skills could be used in research and development:


“Overnight, Ph.D.s were liberated from KP duty, masters of science were recalled from orderly service, mathematicians were hauled out of bakeries, and precision mechanics ceased to be truck drivers.” — Dieter K. Huzel

The recalling first required identifying the men, then tracking them and ascertaining their political correctness and reliability, before being recorded to the Osenberg List, by Werner Osenberg, a University of Hannover engineer-scientist, head of the Wehrforschungsgemeinschaft (Military Research Association). In March 1945, a Polish laboratory technician found the pieces of the Osenberg List in an improperly flushed toilet. Major Robert B. Staver, U.S.A., Chief of the Jet Propulsion Section of the Research and Intelligence Branch of the U.S. Army Ordnance, London, used the Osenberg List to compile his Black List of scientists to be interrogated, headed by rocket scientist Wernher von Braun.

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The United States was interested in the technical capability of the Germans. A team of American scientists was dispatched to Europe on August 14, 1945, to collect information and equipment related to German rocket progress. As a result, the components for approximately 100 V-2 ballistic missiles were recovered and shipped from Germany to White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico. Also recovered was an invaluable cache of documentation. During October 1945, the Secretary of War approved a plan to bring the top German scientists to the United States to aid military research and development. Near the end of the year, more than 100 Germans, who had agreed to come to the United States under Project Paperclip, arrived at Fort Bliss, Texas. Their assignment was to begin work at nearby White Sands on the V-2 rockets that had already arrived from Germany.



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So far what is known is that all these 'evil enemies' of the US were at one time or another recruits of the halls of power of the day ....



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:28 PM

View PostHeaven Is A Halfpipe, on 29 May 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Is half of this from the same "intelligence" groups that swore blind Saddam had WMD....?

That doesn't make any sense considering what happened at Halabja.

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1988: Thousands die in Halabja gas attack

Thousands of people are reported to have been killed and many others injured in a poison gas attack on a Kurdish city in northern Iraq. Up to 20 aircraft, said to include Iraqi Migs and Mirages, were seen overhead at around 1100 local time in Halabja.

According to experts, the chemicals dropped by the planes may have included mustard gas, the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX and possibly cyanide.

The attack on Halabja, which is about 150 miles (241km) north-east of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, is the latest in the Iran-Iraq war and follows its occupation by Iranian forces.
Iraq was said to be keen to avenge the fall of Halabja, which is seen as an important centre for Kurdish resistance in their struggle for autonomy.

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UK experts to help Iraq destroy chemical residues

Mon, Jul 30, 2012

Britain will help the Iraqi government dispose of what's left of deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons, still stored in two bunkers in north of Baghdad, the British embassy in Baghdad announced Monday.

The British Defense Ministry will start training Iraqi technical and medical workers this year, an embassy statement said. The teams will work to safely destroy remnants of munitions and chemical warfare agents left over from Saddam's regime. He was overthrown in 2003 following an American-led invasion.

Saddam stored the chemical weapons near population centers so that he could access them quickly, despite the danger to his civilian population.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:34 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 29 May 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Who knows what kind of recruitment policies were being practiced to further the ambitions of the powers that be ...

Notes on Project Paperclip


The United States was interested in the technical capability of the Germans. A team of American scientists was dispatched to Europe on August 14, 1945, to collect information and equipment related to German rocket progress. As a result, the components for approximately 100 V-2 ballistic missiles were recovered and shipped from Germany to White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico. Also recovered was an invaluable cache of documentation. During October 1945, the Secretary of War approved a plan to bring the top German scientists to the United States to aid military research and development. Near the end of the year, more than 100 Germans, who had agreed to come to the United States under Project Paperclip, arrived at Fort Bliss, Texas. Their assignment was to begin work at nearby White Sands on the V-2 rockets that had already arrived from Germany.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:38 PM

You're using "intelligence" as an argument that the FBI knew that America would be attacked. This is is the same "intelligence" that has such a great track record, yes...?

The fact is the FBI don't even list 9/11 as a crime Bin Laden committed. That's because he didn't and there's zero evidence he did.

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