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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:02 PM

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View PostKludge808, on 21 May 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Sheepy, usually you make a lot of sense.  Further your use of English is generally quite good.  This time, not so much.  These two factors make me question the content of your post.
Thats a good one K808 Sheepy does have the disadvantage of being foreign afterall being from N.J  U.S.A.  LoL !
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:10 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 21 May 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

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Thats a good one K808 Sheepy does have the disadvantage of being foreign afterall being from N.J  U.S.A.  LoL !
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:29 AM

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

Im in favor of the AA theory. Theres entirely too much about history that remains unanswered. And just because a theory may be presently accepted it does not mean it stands as full proof.

That is fair enough, but you stand in a small group. You may favour AA theory, if one could call it that, but you have not substantiated a single AA claim, so it is a bit much to ask others to accept this is certified information when it clearly is not only wrong, but professionally refuted with solid evidence. Science does not stand as the final word. It is the pursuit of knowledge. not the repository of it. As such it is expanded and altered from time to time, but not re-written to the best of my knowledge. This however makes it more reliable.

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

In fact as time goes by new discoveries just challenge historic conceptions of understanding and confirm usj ust how much we do not truly know.

Is this not the point of peer review? That takes personal interpretation out of the picture. The Homo Florensis debate is testament to this. It helps us shape the clues we have into history. However, making up new theories and claiming they challenge them simply makes a mockery of any attempt at any sort of understanding. The AA show is full of lies and fabrications. Why would an unsupported and proven to be inaccurate source be superior to conventional knowledge, much of which remains today as staple building practises in the same areas, and recognised through mistakes and flaws in ancient attempts of early construction, such as the great obelisk abandonded because of a flaw in the rock or broken cores in core holes?

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

I also know that AA theory does not necessarily stand by wholeheartedly the idea that ancient aliens actually assisted ancient people in building structures, BUT have to lay it out publicly that way otherwise theyd be slammed left and right by both acedemics and those who have a hard time understsnding the scenerio altogether. It would also spark resistance from those whos history is linked to the ancients peoples such as Egyptians or Mayans whos ancestral history comes from, thus being rejected altogether.

It's not hard to understand, rather the opposite really. It's unsupported. That's quite a difference.

Would it spark resistance? And if it did, would that matter if facts can be produced?

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

I happen to buy into the latter myself. And the former, both. Because common sense and lack of viable evidence is transparent.

I have not seen you comment on the facts put forth such as the age of Puma Punku or the more impressive Parthenon which is older then the site at Puma Punku or the temples on Malta (Taraxien Temples). Do you feel they do not have an impact, and aren't AA avoiding the very fact that these structures prove man was capable of building megalithic structures well before the site at Pua Punku, making it quite feasible by conventional methods?

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

Until there is concrete evidence not just supprting but factual proof of, or one thing the building of the great pyramid of giza by replication without use of machinery as acedemics claim, including quarrying , precision cutting without any lazer but flint and stone age tools, then hauled off by hand and foot 500 miles then erected identically close, I might be content with the so called facts as history books stand to reason. Perhaps only then will I agree with mainstream Egyptologists. For now not a chance.

If you will pay for it, I will organise it for you. You would not believe the size and weight of some switchboards I have placed into "impossible" situations with a crowbar and a few pipes.

Do you realise just how many pyramids there are? With hundreds of the things under the belts of the builders, the experience alone would be a major advantage over anyone who tries to make one from scratch.

The history books explain a great deal of this, only the granit block were brought in from distance. They were decorative pieces so one can see why they were sourced from a distance - rarity to the region would make granite more valuable, but the larger art of the construction were limestone transported from nearby quarries. No lazers are needed fro limestone, it is not a very hard rock, and we know that the sun was used to create straight edges from the shadow lines. Nothing about the pyramids is impossible, just time consuming.

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

Because even to the average person, let alone one renounced for knowledge in architecture, when standing in front of 6 million tons of blocks whereas the very first block at the bass rivals your own height, all logic as we understand it seems to cease in existence.

I have not stood in fornt of a pyramid, I am not sure if that has a personal effect on some, have you ever stood in front of a high rise building? How do they make one feel? I have been involved in the construction of quite a few and standing on top of one certainly leaves one in awe. Heck, I built a mountain once.

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

The idea of an unknown and possibly other entity or extraterestria having constructed the giza pyramod and the many other misunderstood remaining structures, such as puma punku, gubekeli tepe, baalbek where locks of 1200 pound TON blocks were humanly impossible to be hoisted up onto phisms, is absolutely contingent.

1200 pound ton????

Nah, the heaviest block at Puma Punku is 130 tonnes. The AA show just lied outright there, but in general they usually just quote Dankien so this seems something of a step up(?) for them.

Baalbek has a strong history associated with it, why do you think Aliens would have been involved? And which construction? There has been a great deal of information gathered since the German expedition of 1898 which I have to say seems to be where AA took some of their information from, and a little poetic license. The rocks (God what is it with rocks and aliens?) referred to would be the Trilithons and the heaviest of the three is 800 tons, not 1200. There are two other stones that are heavier than this around the area and they are still connected to the bedrock in the quarries. Which seems more than telling wouldn;t you say? We have actual examples of the exact rocks still under construction. Which definitively points at man, not little green men.

View PostSheep Smart, on 21 May 2013 - 03:00 AM, said:

This is perfectly feasible with my accepted tenet regarding ufos. Though I have never seen one myself, I dont foolish insist on rationalizing tha they wont exist because I havent seen proof myself, though indirectly I have concluded that they do exist. For one thing that amount of reports having seen then in general is oveoverwhelming. Aside from this my father worked for intelligence in the military between 1957- 69 and was called out to photograph and report by chance defaulted ufo landing sites in which every one could not be explained. Ill just leave it at that. I understand his resistance on behalf of the subject. However I am family.

One major hole you keep falling into. UFO does not = ET. I am not sure why you insist the terms are symbiotic. I have seen UFO's myself, and they were not alien spacecraft, not by a very long shot. The amount of reports we see are the AA style of "evidence" which is get a lot of people to say it and we can then all believe in it. The plural of anecdote is not data.

Perhaps not every one could be explained, but does not that very sentence also beg the question, what is it, not it is ET?

Also, I do not see how unexplained = ET either. As I have said, I understand your father is a powerful influence, and I would not try to belittle that, but is he saying this was ET? Because that is quite a leap from unexplained.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:43 AM

Kludge, Pull up a chair.
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Also, I do not see how unexplained = ET either. As I have said, I understand your father is a powerful influence, and I would not try to belittle that, but is he saying this was ET?
No he didnt say that but the insinuation is quite apparent.
The evidence was affiliated not with an unidentified flying object in particular but what it left on the ground.
Singed trees for about a mile in one direction. Possibly from where it came in, an indentation the size of a mere football field in radius that in the center reached approx 12 feet down (in january where in WA state was frozen solid to begin with) vitrified terrain , tripodlike indentations, the account of the woman on the ranch which saw something only indicating a ufo landed having seen nothing but blinding lights and that her animals on the property went nuts. All her glass windows were cracked but a few on the opposite side of the house. Etc
She did not see anything regarding an et, but then she also hid under her bed until it was gone.

Edited by Sheep Smart, 22 May 2013 - 07:04 AM.

Other life in the universe?, you dare to imply there are entities possibly far greater than us almighty humans, creators of canned ham and reality tv. Nonsense. Absurd.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:28 AM

I despise the idea of little green men and prefer to leave the suggested appearance of ETs out of the equation.
psyche101, and everyone else watch this. It is not biased. No mentions of AA.   And makes good and valid points from both Egyptologists and alternative theorists, also engineers, mathematicians, architects, etc.

You have to watch it in its entirety  or dont even bother. It absolutely points out both accepted logical points and then also asks questions reguarding the great pyramids construction and by default some other rocks such as baalbek.  

I remind everyone, I am not a side taker I try to view things from a skeptic point of view within logic. always,. but where there are gaps im just searching for answers.

I highly advise everyone to watch it regardless of your stance :


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By the way psyche, id love to debate you word for word now that I pulled out my keyboard from underneath the vast depths of my bed and no longer rely on the p.o.s. tablet which slows me down, and emphasizes my poor jersey esc English.
  HOWEVER it will be quite long and evasive. Idk if perhaps we should take it to a new thread though because it WILL push the limits of this persons thread. Can we even do that , have a one on one debate thread? Just you and I. Reminiscing . BUT only under the circumstance you agree to watch this video. To first understand why I think the way I do so then I can cut right down to MY words and save us both a lot of time.
I suppose ill continue my reprise to which your prior post above quoting me. If this is to stay here thats ok too.  I just feel like its going to demise this thread. Youve been here longer. Let me know. If youre in favor,.....ive been longing to say these words: Lets get it on.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:37 AM

It would seem it is over an hour, so I am going to download it and watch it on the telly. I prefer the big screen :D I'll get back to you.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:53 AM

First three imposibles I have just heard

1 - the blocks are impossible to move because they weigh as much as a car?

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2 - 12 to 70 ton block were dragged 130 kilometers - tough but why impossible?? Why is the granite hard to place at height with ramps being discovered?


3 - impossible to make a straight tunnel? Mirrors would make this quite possible the ancients used the sun and shadows to draw straight lines. I think Pierre is just now having a decent crack at thinking about it? The sun would make it quite easy to attain such accuracy, and impossible today  That's an outright lie and I work in construction. If they think that is impressive they should look at the blueprints for the concorde. We do far more complex and intricate detail today. No comparison is right, but not how these guys are suggesting. These guys have obviously never heard of laser levels or abrasion.

Whilst the pyramid might well have been built in 20 years, the prep time was probably 5 times that. If we have 1,000 people on site, why is it impossible to lay 200 blocks a day? I bet more were laid early in the piece, and I bet they spent a couple of years just finishing. None of this is factored in.

Who are the Egyptologists who disagree with each other? No names are given just suggestions, which is suggestive in itself.

They pyramid in South America is not one if hundreds, the Egyptians had a great deal of experience over them.

Why do they keep saying 20 years when most say 30 years and 40,000 people?

The Quarry they are taling about was for granite only, not the sandstone and limestone.

Sorry you wanted me to watch the whole thing, I got excited while it was downloading, I'll refrain for now........ ><

Edited by psyche101, 22 May 2013 - 07:53 AM.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:15 AM

Sorry I added this while you responded,
By the way psyche, id love to debate you word for word now that I pulled out my keyboard from underneath the vast depths of my bed and no longer rely on the p.o.s. tablet which slows me down, and emphasizes my poor jersey esc English.  HOWEVER it will be quite long and evasive. Idk if perhaps we should take it to a new thread though because it WILL push the limits of this persons thread. Can we even do that , have a one on one debate thread? Just you and I. Reminiscing . BUT only under the circumstance you agree to watch this video. To first understand why I think the way I do so then I can cut right down to MY words and save us both a lot of time. I suppose ill continue my reprise to which your prior post above quoting me. If this is to stay here thats ok too.  I just feel like its going to demise this thread. Youve been here longer. Let me know. If youre in favor,.....ive been longing to say these words: Lets get it on. Edited by Sheep Smart, Today, 04:11 AM.

Ill wait...
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

Just you and I. Reminiscing

I gotta admit, that's an offer I would not have the willpower to refuse. I think this thread would be OK? Very much on topic, and it has been awful quiet in this thread for some time, I think a new thread might well kill this one? I think maybe see how it goes, if things get out of hand, I am sure a mod will help us relocate.

But I wont comment further untill I have viewed the entire piece.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM

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First three imposibles I have just heard
1 - the blocks are impossible to move because they weigh as much as a car?




flipping a car is hardly that of compiling the networth of 6 million tons of blocks at the altiitude of 400+ Feet.
1 ton = 2000lbs. a car is usually between 3000 to 4000 lbs or: 1.5 to 2 tons . do the math and draw me a blueprint on top of it on how to build the great pyramid entailed with every other method used in context upon construction aside from the idea that humans are capable of flipping a car. though hardly lifting it.


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2 - 12 to 70 ton block were dragged 130 kilometers - tough but why impossible?? Why is the granite hard to place at height with ramps being discovered?

why is it impossible? it is highly unlikely. for one thing there is no evidence of having used any ramps. that in itself is theoretical. again you seem to forget that the height is over 400 feet when said and done. ive yet to see it been done 1/2 of the exact way in which they were used in the GP according to egyptologists. and so hasnt anyone else. your question is as good as any. keep asking.


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Mirrors would make this quite possible the ancients used the sun and shadows to draw straight lines. The sun would make it quite easy to attain such accuracy, and impossible today If they think that is impressive they should look at the blueprints for the concorde.
These guys have obviously never heard of laser levels or abrasion.

your would be suggestion beats around the explanation of the more serious question, how simple tools are capable of achieving this.


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Whilst the pyramid might well have been built in 20 years, the prep time was probably 5 times that. If we have 1,000 people on site, why is it impossible to lay 200 blocks a day? I bet more were laid early in the piece, and I bet they spent a couple of years just finishing. None of this is factored in.
might have. was probably. if we have. why is it. i bet.
so were somewhat on the same level after all.

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Who are the Egyptologists who disagree with each other? No names are given just suggestions, which is suggestive in itself.
i didnt say that egyptologisy disagree with one another. that would be taboo. like incest. and dont tell me know watched that vido already in full.?? its been 30 minutes since i posted it.
They pyramid in South America is not one if hundreds, the Egyptians had a great deal of experience over them.

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Why do they keep saying 20 years when most say 30 years and 40,000 people?
i didnt know that that is the updated new version. i can only guess they had to up the figures because the 20 years was absurd when this doctumentary was made roughly 10-15 years ago. dont worry the figures will change again in due time. im glad you brought this up :D

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The Quarry they are taling about was for granite only, not the sandstone and limestone.
granite, limestone, whats the difference, how was it quarried, how was it cut with means of such primitve methods?

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Sorry you wanted me to watch the whole thing, I got excited while it was downloading, I'll refrain for now........ ><
LOL will suffice for this one.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:01 AM

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

flipping a car is hardly that of compiling the networth of 6 million tons of blocks at the altiitude of 400+ Feet.
1 ton = 2000lbs. a car is usually between 3000 to 4000 lbs or: 1.5 to 2 tons . do the math and draw me a blueprint on top of it on how to build the great pyramid entailed with every other method used in context upon construction aside from the idea that humans are capable of flipping a car. though hardly lifting it.

Which ancient egyptian is proposed to have lifted a block?

A blueprint? You are going to need thousands. Hell, just a small treatment plant comes in at about 400 drawings. You are going to have to narrow that down a bit to be accomplishable on an Internet forum.


Have you ever read about Coral Castle? The front gate is 9 tonne. One man placed it into position alone.

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

why is it impossible? it is highly unlikely. for one thing there is no evidence of having used any ramps. that in itself is theoretical. again you seem to forget that the height is over 400 feet when said and done. ive yet to see it been done 1/2 of the exact way in which they were used in the GP according to egyptologists. and so hasnt anyone else. your question is as good as any. keep asking.

Yes there is not only evidence but found remains of a ramp. In fact I am pretty sure this has been found at about 4 pyramids now. There are ramps alright, it's not speculation but evidenced.

Even now, our archaeological adventures together continue. We recently explored the five relieving
chambers above the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid in order to examine more closely the graffiti
there. A few months ago, we went down about twenty meters into a Saite tomb found by M. VERNER at
Abousir and visited the newly discovered pyramid of Queen Khuit at Saqqara. He was thrilled when he
viewed the newly discovered remains of a ramp at Giza, and I realized then that this paper, when written,
should be dedicated to him1

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It is more than likely that several methods were used for pyramids, and the ramps cannibalised to finish of the top sections of the construction.


View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

your would be suggestion beats around the explanation of the more serious question, how simple tools are capable of achieving this.

No, I addressed that, we have things like the great obelisk and unfinished core holes with cores still in them that tell us exactly what tools were used. It is no mystery. The mirrors as I said can produce perfect straight edges to work to, from there it is just patience. The same tools remain in use today, and produce the exact same effects, but the unfinished projects such as the aforementioned Trilithons at Baalbek.

We have unfinished examples, how much more evidence does one need?

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

might have. was probably. if we have. why is it. i bet.
so were somewhat on the same level after all.

I m not sure of that, I have shown AA lied about the age of PP, and the size and composition of the rocks there. The ramp to the pyramid does exist, as do all the holes on the Western(?) I think side that line up with the geometric points of the pyramid, showing how the maths were done.

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

i didnt say that egyptologisy disagree with one another. that would be taboo. like incest. and dont tell me know watched that vido already in full.?? its been 30 minutes since i posted it.
They pyramid in South America is not one if hundreds, the Egyptians had a great deal of experience over them.

The video did.

No, I said above I have not watched it in full and apologised.

Exactly my point! Egyptians had a great deal of experience with building pyramids, centuries worth That sort of experience is how such magnificent feats, such as the great pyramid were achieved. There's over a hundred of the things in Egypt alone. If I had the opportunity to build even 50 pyramids, the 51'st would be a striking feature. You get better as you go along, everyone does.

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

i didnt know that that is the updated new version. i can only guess they had to up the figures because the 20 years was absurd when this doctumentary was made roughly 10-15 years ago. dont worry the figures will change again in due time. im glad you brought this up :D

Not really, the 20 years just meant more labour. It has been the official figure for some time as far as I am aware, the 20 years figure is one I have not seen before.

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

granite, limestone, whats the difference, how was it quarried, how was it cut with means of such primitve methods?

As with the methods still in use today.


First, perhaps you can explain why you think it is impossible? Why can time, tools, and ingenuity not make large square blocks?

View PostSheep Smart, on 22 May 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

LOL will suffice for this one.

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Told you I had not finished yet!

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:26 AM

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That is fair enough, but you stand in a small group
so be it. this means nothing to me. moving along..

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You may favour AA theory, if one could call it that, but you have not substantiated a single AA claim,
claim to what? i very well stated why i adhere to it.

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so it is a bit much to ask others to accept this
i never did. the only i asked was to check out a video which came after you posted this response.

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  when it clearly is not only wrong, but professionally refuted with solid evidence. Science does not stand as the final word. It is the pursuit of knowledge. not the repository of it. As such it is expanded and altered from time to time, but not re-written to the best of my knowledge. This however makes it more reliable.
yea im having a hard time with the ability to over ride the slight contradiition here.
however the theory in itself it is NOT entirely wrong only based on the fact this it contradicts mainstream and orthodix theory. i openly refudiate the vailidty of mainstream egyptology.


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Is this not the point of peer review? That takes personal interpretation out of the picture. The Homo Florensis debate is testament to this. It helps us shape the clues we have into history. However, making up new theories and claiming they challenge them simply makes a mockery of any attempt at any sort of understanding.

not true. and i hope you certainly do not believe this. just because one challenges the norm does not mean to mock it. although i do mock it for many other reasons.  the fact is that one should always contest a theory especially of that which is based on transparent evidence. evidence which itself is highly arguable and lacking in the overall picture. if youre trying to make me feel bad for the underpaid egyptologist its not working. its is their own faults of playing the role of puppets which when added up, their theories become less reasonable the more time goes by.  i surmise , thanks to this AA theorists gained fame on this notion alone.


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The AA show is full of lies and fabrications. Why would an unsupported and proven to be inaccurate source be superior to conventional knowledge, much of which remains today as staple building practises in the same areas, and recognised through mistakes and flaws in ancient attempts of early construction, such as the great obelisk abandonded because of a flaw in the rock or broken cores in core holes?
i dont base my adherence to the AA theory based on the AA show alone. though i wouldnt watch it if not for georgio tsoukalis and his sexy hair. aside from that it is no more full of fabrications than mainstream texts. atleast they dont claim anything as proof. they openly take the stance of suggestion.and for good reason. in its entirely, egyptology is evasive. shame on them for demanding people adhere to such an insufficiient so called claim to history.

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It's not hard to understand, rather the opposite really. It's unsupported. That's quite a difference.

Would it spark resistance? And if it did, would that matter if facts can be produced?
can you elaborate here. what is it' exactly.
supported means its correct? do you ever question anything thats supported? i hope sometimes. as i stated, until i am content with facts, which can and only complete the overall picture in virtually every aspect., in this case the giza pyramd, i will stand to question everything.


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I have not seen you comment on the facts put forth such as the age of Puma Punku or the more impressive Parthenon which is older then the site at Puma Punku or the temples on Malta (Taraxien Temples). Do you feel they do not have an impact, and aren't AA avoiding the very fact that these structures prove man was capable of building megalithic structures well before the site at Pua Punku, making it quite feasible by conventional methods?
i apologize if i oversaw this. regardless of the date of puma punku, which is pretentious, my curiously lies in how and by who.
the parthenon is NOT an enigma. ill give way to acedemia here since its importance in the aspect of ancient mysteries and structures is obscure. personally speaking.

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If you will pay for it, I will organise it for you. You would not believe the size and weight of some switchboards I have placed into "impossible" situations with a crowbar and a few pipes.
i just may believe it. certainly before i believe egyptologists alleged proof.


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Do you realise just how many pyramids there are? With hundreds of the things under the belts of the builders, the experience alone would be a major advantage over anyone who tries to make one from scratch.
yeeeeearp. but most fit my description of rubbish in comparison.

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The history books explain a great deal of this
is that so.

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They were decorative pieces so one can see why they were sourced from a distance - rarity to the region would make granite more valuable, but the larger art of the construction were limestone transported from nearby quarries.
were they really? or perhaps for used for its durability . and  used internally for their immense ability to withhold erosion.? frankly though my guess seems a bit more rational, both are good guesses. and for lack of solid evidence  that is exactly what they remain for now, speculations.

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No lazers are needed fro limestone, it is not a very hard rock, and we know that the sun was used to create straight edges from the shadow lines..
since we should not even have to include the word laser as it (according to theory) was non existing at the time, it is therefore irrelivant.
again i point out the fact this stands as your assumption,i still want the entire blueprint.

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i disagree x infinity.

Other life in the universe?, you dare to imply there are entities possibly far greater than us almighty humans, creators of canned ham and reality tv. Nonsense. Absurd.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:27 AM

Ummm ... just poking my nose in for a moment here but has everyone forgotten that the Egyptians knew about pulleys and rope, and it's not a real long stretch to accept they were able to rig a block 'n tackle to assist moving Really Big Things.

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have you ever stood in front of a high rise building? How do they make one feel?
since i live outside new york city yes. if i had to stop to ask myself how i felt it was certainly in the 90s. and it depended on what substance i was under the influence of at the time. which i reckon was early am.
shame on you for comparing these modern paper glass houses with the GP.  and for making me relive my flashbacks of the past.

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I have been involved in the construction of quite a few and standing on top of one certainly leaves one in awe. Heck, I built a mountain once.
i built a few mountains here in my room infact im sitting on one compiled of dirty clothes and some clean. i think youd be in awe too if you saw my mountains.


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1200 pound ton????
Nah, the heaviest block at Puma Punku is 130 tonnes. The AA show just lied outright there, but in general they usually just quote Dankien so this seems something of a step up(?) for them.
you didnt watch this video. and i said baalbek!!!! in BAALBEKKKK


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Baalbek has a strong history associated with it, why do you think Aliens would have been involved? And which construction? There has been a great deal of information gathered since the German expedition of 1898 which I have to say seems to be where AA took some of their information from, and a little poetic license. The rocks (God what is it with rocks and aliens?) referred to would be the Trilithons and the heaviest of the three is 800 tons, not 1200. There are two other stones that are heavier than this around the area and they are still connected to the bedrock in the quarries. Which seems more than telling wouldn;t you say? We have actual examples of the exact rocks still under construction. Which definitively points at man, not little green men.
do not be quick to throw me into the flames of the green men supporters just because i question how humans were capable to use multiton blocks in construction at a time when my boke would have been the best on the block since there was no wheels invented . you are too quick to point in the furthest direction, which i can understand due to the endless supply of abductees here on this forum but i remind you, i havent made any conclusions for it would be rather ignorant of me to do so without the proof.

my hand hurts. you know because im typing.

Id love to hear your opinion, (based on the execution of history books of course),

what was the need for the gigantic blocks and the necessary altitude for which this was erected? why such extreme measures? id really prefer to hear your own theory, this is if you even submit to one of your own. regardless if it is based off of so called fact.

Other life in the universe?, you dare to imply there are entities possibly far greater than us almighty humans, creators of canned ham and reality tv. Nonsense. Absurd.

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