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Pre-Viking tunic found on glacier

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#16    lightly

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

pretty cool !    the tunic was carbon dated at  year 300 .. so, the glacier was at that level  (as danielost said)...  then continued to thicken and expand.. until, melting outpaced growth.  
(just thought someone should state the obvious ,lol)

hi Aus Der Box Sceptisch , you mentioned  that global warming is a cycle..   Do you know of a chart or graph that shows these cycles?... and, the durations of these cycles?
     not to put you on the spot...  i'm just curious.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

i wish i were the one who found it.


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:15 PM

i wish i were the one who found it.


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

maybe the glacier was not there when whoever lost it lost il.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:45 AM

The Condition of it(the tunic)is amazing!!


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:00 AM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 23 March 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

See people its a cycle.  Global warming is a cycle. Glaciers will recede and advance.

View PostMerc14, on 23 March 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

You can't tax everyone if it is cyclical and normal, it has to be man-made so Al Gore can make another Billion.

No serious scientist ever said that it's not a cycle. And researchers don't say that's man-made. We know very well that the average temperatures change during time, and in the last hundred of thousands of years there have been warm periods alternated with cooler (if not glacial) ones.
If the tunic's dating is correct, it falls perfectly in the Roman Warm Period, spanning more or less from 250 BC to 400 AD. It was a warmer time than today's, Romans were even able to cultivate grapevine in Germany (The famous Rheinwein is all that's left, thanks to the river Rehin's microclimate).
So, no wonder that it lied under the ice for all this time.

The problem isn't that the antropic activity triggered the climate change, but that it enhances this change.
We don't even know if, by nature, we're headed to an even warmer period or if we're already on the pike and soon there will be another cold period.
What we know, is that man is changing the rules of the game and maybe he's also changing the famous "cycle" Aus Der Box Skeptisch talks about.
It's a fact that temperatures are rising. If we help this process with our actions, increasing the speed of change and rising the temperatures even more, we could pass the point of no return, destroying nature's balance.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

Glaciers advance and recede ,   but when was the last time the arctic had ice free summers?   Isn't that what 'they' are talking about happening soon?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:32 PM

View Postlightly, on 24 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Glaciers advance and recede ,   but when was the last time the arctic had ice free summers?   Isn't that what 'they' are talking about happening soon?

During the ice age.  That is due to the gulf stream flowing into the arctic ocean.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:07 PM

View PostStill Waters, on 22 March 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

A pre-Viking woolen tunic found beside a thawing glacier in south Norway shows how global warming is proving something of a boon for archaeology, scientists said on Thursday.

The greenish-brown, loose-fitting outer clothing — suitable for a person up to about 5 feet, 9 inches tall (176 centimeters) — was found 6,560 feet (2,000 meters) above sea level on what may have been a Roman-era trade route in south Norway. Carbon dating showed it was made around the year 300.

http://science.nbcne...rchaeology?lite

The melting of glaciers is a natural process.  Nothing to do with global warming.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:12 AM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 24 March 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

The melting of glaciers is a natural process.  Nothing to do with global warming.
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I would say it has something to do with global warming.    If it were global cooling, they wouldn't be melting.

These finds are one of the positives of global warming.   Another is the extra farmable land.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

View PostMyles, on 25 March 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

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I would say it has something to do with global warming. If it were global cooling, they wouldn't be melting.

These finds are one of the positives of global warming.   Another is the extra farmable land.

previously inaccessible oil wells ....... you forgot the 'resource rich' sea beds ...... they just need to kill a lot of polar bears

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:02 PM

As I understand it there aren't that many polar bears left.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 25 March 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

As I understand it there aren't that many polar bears left.

they are sorry but they are doing the best they can ..... glaciers not melting fast enough

polar bear skins stained with blood don't get top dollars

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:25 PM

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 08:59 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 25 March 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

As I understand it there aren't that many polar bears left.
As I understand that's a myth.





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