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#91    AsteroidX

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:48 AM

If it keeps this important issue on the forefront and helps a few more people become aware of exactly of what this problem is Ill deal with the troll happily. :tu:


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:27 AM

Hypothetical situation: guy leases brand new Volvo XC90 he can't afford. He goes into debt, and kills himself...

Food for thought (few facts): population of India increased by ~25% (1997-2012). Corn production increased by ~200% 100% (1997-2012).

Can't afford to buy Monsanto's seeds? Grow efking tulips.

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Edited by bmk1245, 11 April 2013 - 10:39 AM.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:53 AM

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Thats funny because as far as Im aware they never used Monsanto corn just BT cotton.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 11 April 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Thats funny because as far as Im aware they never used Monsanto corn just BT cotton.
I brought it just to show how much pressure is put on the land.

And Bt cotton... Can't afford Bt cotton? Grow tulips...

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

View Postbmk1245, on 11 April 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

I brought it just to show how much pressure is put on the land.

And Bt cotton... Can't afford Bt cotton? Grow tulips...
Indian farmers were able to seed save and did not have a large anual bill for new seed every years. It is the seed cost and cost of roundup which has forced them into debt and suicide.
Replace an independent and sustainable farm practice with one which ties you to a single monoply supplier.

You see, that is the primary objective of Monsanto, to make the world dependent on its products and to prosecute anyone who resists this attempt to achieve world hegomony in food production. As such they are a branch of the bigger American project to achieve world hegamony on all levels.

They don't even deliver on their claimed benefits - they do not feed the world, they make the world far more vunerable to a food crisis as they are systematically reducing the biodiversity within the agricutural sector. Anyone who claims to understand genetics will fully understand that a single genetic strain is a natural distaster waiting to happen.

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Edited by Br Cornelius, 11 April 2013 - 11:46 AM.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:01 PM

A partial list of food companies owned by Monsanto....
http://www.snopes.co...ss/monsanto.asp

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Important:  The above may contain errors, inaccuracies, omissions, and other limitations.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 11 April 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

Indian farmers were able to seed save and did not have a large anual bill for new seed every years. It is the seed cost and cost of roundup which has forced them into debt and suicide.[...]
Have you seen this research (lengthy, but worth to read)? What was the yield before and after Bt cotton introduction?
BTW, how do you know, for example, that huge increase in corn production (non-GM) isn't the cause of increased suicides? Different regions might have been suffering losses in production, leading, consequently, to more suicides.


View PostBr Cornelius, on 11 April 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

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Replace an independent and sustainable farm practice with one which ties you to a single monoply supplier.

You see, that is the primary objective of Monsanto, to make the world dependent on its products and to prosecute anyone who resists this attempt to achieve world hegomony in food production. As such they are a branch of the bigger American project to achieve world hegamony on all levels.

They don't even deliver on their claimed benefits - they do not feed the world, they make the world far more vunerable to a food crisis as they are systematically reducing the biodiversity within the agricutural sector. Anyone who claims to understand genetics will fully understand that a single genetic strain is a natural distaster waiting to happen.

Br Cornelius
But thats the situation I'd somewhat compare to discussion in this thread (where psyche puts very good arguments): all this anti-GMO hysteria just worsens situation - new potential players (companies and investors) instead of creating new companies and new better, safer and cheaper GMOs, just turn their "eyes" somewhere else,

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