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Nth Korea cuts Military Hotline to Sth Korea

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#1    libstaK

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 12:36 PM

Yeonpyeong Island, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea said Wednesday it was cutting off a key military hotline with South Korea amid high tensions between the two sides.
"Under the situation where a war may break out any moment, there is no need to keep north-south military communications," the head of a North Korean delegation told the South by telephone Wednesday, according to the North's state-run Korean Central News Agency.
The North linked the move to annual joint military exercises by South Korea and the United States, which it has cited in a string of threats against the two countries in recent weeks. Tougher sanctions approved by the U.N. Security Council have also fueled its anger.

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Really? No Reason?  How about conciliation and mediation?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

North Korea doesn't want those things. They'd rather make threats until someone gives them what they want.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:51 PM

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"Really? No Reason?  How about conciliation and mediation?" lK
I'm w/ C on this one.

View PostCorp, on 27 March 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

North Korea doesn't want those things. They'd rather make threats until someone gives them what they want.
NK's behavior is irrational.
At some point, an end will be put to this. What I'd like to know is, how much of Seoul can be saved in the process.

I'm guessing Pyongyang won't be nuked by the West until after a summit meeting between the U.S. & China; and only after the U.S. has Chinese approval and pledge of cooperation in the aftermath will terminating the NK regime proceed.
I'm guessing likelihood of that may be ~<25%; but may grow more likely if NK's erratic behavior and destruction escalate.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

Just who is pulling the strings in NK these days ?


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:16 PM

So 1 less working phone in NK,i guess chubby has the last one left

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:20 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 27 March 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

Just who is pulling the strings in NK these days ?

Yeah, that's hard to say.

I realize China has to some extent "buffered" NK for quite a while, in the sense of considering them an ally, but now I don't know.

China's not too happy with NK at this time, and NK doesn't seem to care.

So, good question.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:42 PM

View Postpallidin, on 27 March 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

Yeah, that's hard to say.

I realize China has to some extent "buffered" NK for quite a while, in the sense of considering them an ally, but now I don't know.

China's not too happy with NK at this time, and NK doesn't seem to care.

So, good question.

With Kim Jong Il's death, Kim Jong Un is thrust into power.
I'm guessing there are many in NK's politburo that are experienced totalitarians that resent young Un's supremacy, when he's a lad less than half their age.
They're his senior in age and experience, but they're his junior in rank.
I'll bet ambitious totalitarian bureaucrats like that don't like being bossed around by a kid.
& KJU knows it.

For KJU to stave off a palace coup d’état he may feel he has to flaunt his indomitable leadership and skill by:
- successfully launching a rocket
- attempting to launch a satellite into orbit
- continuing nuclear tests
- etc.

"Ambassador" Denis Rodman personally visited NK, and had an extended personal audience with KJU.
Rodman reports:

a) KJU does NOT want War with the U.S.

B) KJU wants Obama to telephone KJU.

Candidly, I think some low level U.S. emissary should contact KJU.
Perhaps what's preventing it is they can't get sufficient privacy to promote / provide the candor necessary.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:36 PM

Well a major North Korean factory that's run by South Koreans is still operating normally so they're not mad enough to risk one of their few bright spots in their economy.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:38 AM

This will blow over soon. Then in about 1 to 2 years when they test another nuke it will be the same song and dance.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:35 AM

KJU is a kid trying to play with Adults,they will tolerate him for just so long then he will be sent to the naughty seat by his Seniors.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:47 AM

There will be know conflict between NK or SK. Its a farse to instill fear and propaganda to proliferate the war machine nothing more.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:55 AM

I think its possible the military will throw Kim Jung UN out and It may become a military state

Edited by jesspy, 29 March 2013 - 07:56 AM.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:01 AM

View Postjesspy, on 29 March 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

I think its possible the military will throw Kim Jung UN out and It may become a military state


LOL

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:29 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 29 March 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

LOL
?    What's funny about that?  As it stands they may mostly be controlled by the military but not completely.  If Un falls down some stairs - or chokes on some Jenny Craig - then the generals could REALLY do what they want without interference.  Not so hard to believe.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:55 PM

View Postand then, on 29 March 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

? What's funny about that?  As it stands they may mostly be controlled by the military but not completely.  If Un falls down some stairs - or chokes on some Jenny Craig - then the generals could REALLY do what they want without interference.  Not so hard to believe.
I think what is truly amusing is the idea that the Generals may not already be doing exactly as they please, I'm pretty sure KJU is a well played puppet.

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