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#16    Doug1o29

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:34 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 17 April 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

The globe is warming up: this should have an effect, but so far it seems difficult to pick it out of the statistical noise.
It's actually quite easy to pick out, even without statistics, using the lists of global temperature anomalies (NCDC (Hansen) list, HadCrut3 and others).  Other types of data are a little more complicated, to be sure.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:58 PM

What might seem impossible to man isn't impossible to God. Part of fixing the earth is going to be replacing extinct animals, or creating more.. we don't know what he might do, but it'll solve the problem and rescue the eco system permanently. He knows how to fix it, he made it after all. I miss blue whales, they were stunning as a kid I loved them.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:07 PM

Oh it's blatant the world is warming up , just look how much water was in africa 100 years ago, and the shrunken pond they call a lake now. And the ice caps are frighteningly gone. I watched a documentary on the polar regions and seeing the struggle animals go through.. they're innocent and don't deserve what we're doing to earth.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:27 PM

People are not good and evil, saints and sinners, sheep and goats.  People are people.  They are selfish and generous, kind and cruel, honest and dishonest.  What is more important is that when the bad side of someone comes out, there are reasons -- maybe not reasons we know about, but there are reasons.  If we knew the whole story about anyone, we would understand.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:38 PM

View Postkarina_28, on 18 April 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

What might seem impossible to man isn't impossible to God. Part of fixing the earth is going to be replacing extinct animals, or creating more.. we don't know what he might do, but it'll solve the problem and rescue the eco system permanently. He knows how to fix it, he made it after all. I miss blue whales, they were stunning as a kid I loved them.
Somewhere in the Bible (Book of Job?) it says:  "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."  If memory serves, it was in reference to doing something stupid, like jumping off a tall building and expecting God to save you.  I think it not wise to tempt the gods.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:40 PM

Oh hon you don't need to explain to me about people with a good and a bad side.. I've met it all. The only reason I mentioned it is because people were freaking out there'd be an end of the human race. That's not going to happen. And you may not believe in the Bible at all, but one day you'll see what i mean. And there's bad sides to people and then there's terrorists etc. i'm sorry but I don't condone stuff like that.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

Yeah Doug, Satan said that to Jesus at one point, you know, leap of faith an all.. he probably looked him in the face funny and said 'i doubt it.. you jump' hahahaha. 'of you go, let me know how that turns out!' then shouting after him... 'mind the big rocks' (don't mind me, just having a laugh)

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:48 PM

The Bible says lots of things; in one place it says the meek will inherit the earth, in another (I think in Solomon) it says the earth abides forever.

I've never really been able to pin down end-of-earth stuff except in highly allegorical passages or in places that are historical refrences to the Jewish revolution and Roman destruction of the Temple.

I think the point I was trying to make about good and bad people went over your head.  There is no such thing as saint and sinner.  We are all both, and when we do evil things there are background aspects the judgmental people of this world choose to disregard so that they can not forgive.  According to the Bible the only one who has the right to judge is God, not anyone else, and that is probably because he knows the whole story and therefore easily forgives.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:51 PM

The timing for the end, the judgement day as people call it, is all calculated in the Bible. I'm still learning to understand it!! And there's a scripture that says the end will be exactly as the days of Noah, i.e. people doing normal everyday things and it'll be here 'like a thief in the night' - completely unexpected timing.

You're right, God does forgive, and a lot easier than we do. As for 'saints and sinners' - everyone is born a 'sinner', or not 100% perfect, I agree everyone has a bad side to them somewhere, everyone can be driven to do bad things given the right motive etc, been there done that, but what my point was for this post is that because Satan is pushing people to ruin God's creation. People were asking about the earth being destroyed in an apocalypse or man becoming extinct like the dinosaurs. I was explaining that it'll be unrepentant evil people destroyed, and not all of man, and not the earth or animals.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:04 PM

View Postkarina_28, on 17 April 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

I didn't mean it's the end of creation and the earth. that's permanent. like everyone has said even though there are natural disasters, and even if yellowstone blows, the earth will recover.

i didn't mean the end of all mankind, like the end of civilisation like when the dinosaurs were killed etc, as the Bible says man will inherit the earth. We're meant to be here forever - meaning each generation after generation will still live on earth. It's our gift, we're not supposed to be wiped out by an asteroid etc. There won't be an apocalypse like that.

I mean Armageddon. I mean the judging of good and evil. People deciding which side they're on, whether they care about good or bad. God will read hearts and sort people. Only the people who don't kill, steal, rape, etc (most prison inmates that are truly guilty - not the sorry ones). You do your vacuum cleaning every now and again at home, get rid of the dirt. God will do that soon. Whether anyone believes it or not. He's not gonna sit and watch man tear the earth apart forever. He says he'll ruin those who ruin earth. They should leave earth alone.

No one is born evil, no one's born wanting to kill or hurt people. Bombers and kidnappers are not born that way. People maybe don't like to think what makes them like that. Satan drives it to oppose God. Simple as. I'm gonna leave my comment at that cos I know how many haters they're are. But my conscience is clear, I've told the truth.
Does the bible mention nuclear weapons, or maybe they did not know about them then?!
Anyway, back to the weather, as shown it has always and will always change, may not be suited to our needs, but we are not the only ones living on this planet, and before us there were other creatures, so who knows what is in store for the future and what other creatures may take our place which will be suited.

Edited by freetoroam, 21 April 2013 - 07:08 PM.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:32 PM

Why would strange weather patterns herald the end of the world?


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:24 AM

View Postacute, on 21 April 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

Why would strange weather patterns herald the end of the world?
Because anything can herald the end of the world if you are looking for patterns.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:55 AM

yep any thing can  could might may possably  bring a end to the world as we know it for the human race any way bu one could only think the world wouldnt simpley end  but travle on its path as "mother nature" has done so many times before and will do so many time after we'r dead and long since just a faded foot print
as far as that bible thing  so many want to toss out there being the"end of days" or its in the book of revelations..lol there then again  for some reason ever since  "john"  who wrote  what he saw is realy only his discription of what it was  but more less people since then  have claimed it to be the end of the world finding in the worlds current events to fit the discriptions found there in
  this i do find kinda funny becouse  to quot another passage if i remenber right went sume thing like this~~no one knows the day the lord  will return or the point when man(humans) will walk the earth...or some thing like that yes my bible reading is likeing  to me its more less  filed under folk lores and stories concidering its  just different points of views on the same subject mostly with the new testament side  and  the old testament yeah well you gota wonder since  the world had been a long time before kown before the bible was writen in the first place so like most  things stories passed on by word of mouth and told as the person telling the story with their point of view on the subject at hand ...(this is no ones else point of view but my own) sum might agree with some might not and sum might question the way i think ...each to their own i say..
   as far as the weather ..yeah we'r looking at a global change  it happens   but the weather is also influenced by many different things as welllike   the sun the moon  the earths rotation  the seasons  just a few examples on a whole list  lol but oboma  takeing donations to stop globle warming ...HA what a load of bull ****!  if you realy want to know what the weather out side is doing  welp..why not go look out side for your self and deside  if you need to wear a rain coat or shorts..go naked wouldn't pay me no mind to what any one else does in this matter
people b**** about  it being hot and they b**** about it being too cold and b**** about it being wet    why not  just be happy with what we got and just deal with it since no one of us can realy do any thing to change it   :whistle:


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:03 PM

View Postredsquare, on 03 April 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

So over the last few months (or maybe even few years ) I have been noticing strange weather patterns. Like on a winters day it could be really warm or a summer day really cold and I don't ever remember this happening when I was younger. Also my friend was telling me about natural disasters over the last decade and he told me they are getting worse (as in there are more and more happening). And to top it all of I have been reading about lots of different animals dropping dead all over the world without any explanation or cause. Is it just me or is something a bit off here ? Anyone care to explain al this weird stuff that's been happening over the last decade ?

I didn't know what forum this topic should be in so I picked natural disasters.

Much appreciated to anyone who can help.
I've noticed a change in Thunder. Five times, since May, when there's been a storm the thunder just rumbles, it doesn't stop, it goes on an on. During one of these episodes the thunder didn't stop for 1:30 minutes. That is a v-e-r-y  l-o-n-g  t-I-m-e. It isn't a sound that's bouncing off clouds, or buildings as it has only started this year. I don't know what it is but it's scary...and I want to know what it is and why it is.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:39 PM

View Postkarina_28, on 21 April 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

The timing for the end, the judgement day as people call it, is all calculated in the Bible. I'm still learning to understand it!! And there's a scripture that says the end will be exactly as the days of Noah, i.e. people doing normal everyday things and it'll be here 'like a thief in the night' - completely unexpected timing.

You're right, God does forgive, and a lot easier than we do. As for 'saints and sinners' - everyone is born a 'sinner', or not 100% perfect, I agree everyone has a bad side to them somewhere, everyone can be driven to do bad things given the right motive etc, been there done that, but what my point was for this post is that because Satan is pushing people to ruin God's creation. People were asking about the earth being destroyed in an apocalypse or man becoming extinct like the dinosaurs. I was explaining that it'll be unrepentant evil people destroyed, and not all of man, and not the earth or animals.
  Ah, but we were never meant to know when the end will come. Priests and Poets and Flim Flam Men have all claimed to know when it's going to happen and those that buy what they're selling are amazed when they wake up the next day they're still here. I agree 100% about the planet and the animals. We have been terrible stewards on Earth. When I look at the state of the arctic and literally watch it collapse little by little I cringe. The majestic Polar Bears may be extinct by 2050...among others I'm sure. (sigh)

Edited by Lorelilly, 30 June 2013 - 10:40 PM.

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