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Tony Rooke v BBC - 9/11 Cover Up


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#31    Babe Ruth

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

Yes, perhaps it would be best to describe Rooke's position to be that BBC was part of the coverup.  That does NOT make them a terrorist organization in my opinion, but it is a realistic analysis of their general position.

No, I have not seen any of the BBC pieces you mention.

Regarding the premature report of the collapse of WTC7, I think BBC was just doing as they were all doing that day, broadcasting stories they had been told, obviously without confirming any of them.  That is the hallmark of contemporary 'journalism'.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:42 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 12 April 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Regarding the premature report of the collapse of WTC7, I think BBC was just doing as they were all doing that day, broadcasting stories they had been told, obviously without confirming any of them.  That is the hallmark of contemporary 'journalism'.

In regards to WTC7, a documentary was shown about WTC7 yesterday, and before WTC7 collapsed, its structure was examined in detail and was found to be failing. it was determined that WTC7 was in the early stages of collapse and the huge bulge, which was  seen on WTC7, was a clear indication that WTC7 was coming down and it had nothing to do with explosives.

Edited by skyeagle409, 12 April 2013 - 05:44 PM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:02 PM

Skyeagle, I think the majority of everyone here understands where your coming from, but from what the Borg would say, "resistance is futile"--no matter how nerdy this sounds.

Most believe that something is amiss and we see your patriotism, unfortunately the rest of the world doesn't hold the United States on a pedastal as much as you seem to do.

Conclusion: something is not what it seems...

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:02 PM

Dennis Winston Healey, a British Labour politician, observed that "World events do not occur by accident.  They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings."


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:02 PM

View PostScorpius, on 19 April 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Skyeagle, I think the majority of everyone here understands where your coming from, but from what the Borg would say, "resistance is futile"--no matter how nerdy this sounds.

Most believe that something is amiss and we see your patriotism, unfortunately the rest of the world doesn't hold the United States on a pedastal as much as you seem to do.

Conclusion: something is not what it seems...

Warnings of an impending Muslim terrorist attack were flowing in from around the world and there was nothing in the warnings implicating the U.S. government. In fact, the warnings were directed to the United States. In other words, nothing there to suggest a U.S. government conspiracy.

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Report cites warnings before 9/11

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials had several warnings that terrorists might attack the United States on its home soil -- even using airplanes as weapons -- well before the September 11, 2001 attacks, two congressional committees said in a report released Wednesday.

In 1998, U.S. intelligence had information that a group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly an explosives-laden airplane into the World Trade Center, according to a joint inquiry of the House and Senate intelligence committees.
However, the Federal Aviation Administration found the plot "highly unlikely given the state of that foreign country's aviation program," and believed a flight originating outside the United States would be detected before it reached its target inside the country, the report said. "The FBI's New York office took no action on the information," it said.

Another alert came just a month before the attacks, the report said, when the CIA sent a message to the FAA warning of a possible hijacking "or an act of sabotage against a commercial airliner." The information was linked to a group of Pakistanis based in South America.

As early as 1994 the government received information that international terrorists "had seriously considered the use of airplanes as a means of carrying out terrorist attacks," the report says.

http://archives.cnn....ings/index.html


Bush Warned of Hijackings Before 9-11

U.S. intelligence officials warned President Bush weeks before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network might hijack American planes, but White House officials stressed the threat was not specific.

A White House official acknowledged to ABCNEWS that the information prompted administration officials to issue a private warning to transportation department and national security agencies weeks before the attacks. But, the official said the threat of a hijacking by bin Laden's al Qaeda organization was general in nature, did not mention a specific time or place and was similar to the variety of different terrorist threats U.S. intelligence monitors frequently.

http://abcnews.go.co...=1#.UXK-nCqF9CY

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US

https://www.fas.org/...t/pdb080601.pdf

Bojinka plot

Phase III, CIA plane crash plot

Abdul Hakim Murad confessed detailed Phase III in his interrogation by the Manila police after his capture.
Phase three would have involved Murad either renting, buying, or hijacking a small airplane, preferably a Cessna. The airplane would be filled with explosives. He would then crash it into the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in the Langley area in Fairfax County, Virginia. Murad had been trained as a pilot in North Carolina, and was slated to be a suicide pilot.

There were alternate plans to hijack a 12th commercial airliner and use that instead of the small aircraft, probably due to the Manila cell's growing frustration with explosives. Testing explosives in a house or apartment is dangerous, and it can easily give away a terrorist plot. Khalid Sheik Mohammed probably made the alternate plan.

A report from the Philippines to the United States on January 20, 1995 stated, "What the subject has in his mind is that he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters."

Another plot that was considered would have involved the hijacking of more airplanes. The World Trade Center (New York City, New York), The Pentagon (Arlington, Virginia), the United States Capitol (Washington, D.C.), the White House(Washington, D.C.), the Sears Tower (Chicago, Illinois), and the U.S Bank Tower (Los Angeles, California), would have been the likely targets. Abdul Hakim Murad said that this part of the plot was dropped since the Manila cell could not recruit enough people to implement other hijackings in his confession with Filipino investigators, prior to the foiling of Operation Bojinka. This plot eventually would be the base plot for the September 11, 2001 attacks which involved hijacking commercial airliners as opposed to small aircraft loaded with explosives and crashing them into their intended targets. However, only the World Trade Center (which was destroyed) and The Pentagon (which suffered partial damage) were hit.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Bojinka_plot


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

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An Opinion Dynamics Corporation poll says only 4.2% of Americans believe Bush blew up the towers.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:15 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 20 April 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Dennis Winston Healey, a British Labour politician, observed that "World events do not occur by accident.  They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings."
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(his name was denis.....)

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:21 AM

View PostScorpius, on 19 April 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Skyeagle, I think the majority of everyone here understands where your coming from, but from what the Borg would say, "resistance is futile"--no matter how nerdy this sounds.

Most believe that something is amiss and we see your patriotism, unfortunately the rest of the world doesn't hold the United States on a pedastal as much as you seem to do.

Conclusion: something is not what it seems...
There is a video of WTC7 on fire and it did appear it could collapse


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:50 PM

(i only mentioned it BR, as he was my local MP for years!)
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:12 PM

Thanks for that Shrooma.  I had wondered how contemporary he was, as I did not recognize his name.

But his message was spot on! :tu:


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:25 PM

View Postshrooma, on 20 April 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

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shame they're all on here dude!!
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And, not  many at that!.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

View Postshrooma, on 20 April 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

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(his name was denis.....)
(or, more likely, Denis ............. :P )

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