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#31    praetorian-legio XIII

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:32 PM

View Postninjadude, on 05 April 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Paranoid much? If it's a natural disaster, I'll be damn glad the government can put up "fema" camps.

The fema camp comment was just a metaphor for continued and increased government control over our lives, thanks to people (like you?) that voted for his royal highness and continue to turn a blind eye to what he is doing to this country.  

And  its not "can" put up fema camps, its "has" put up fema camps

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:04 PM

View Postpraetorian-legio XIII, on 05 April 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

The fema camp comment was just a metaphor for continued and increased government control over our lives, thanks to people (like you?) that voted for his royal highness and continue to turn a blind eye to what he is doing to this country.  

And  its not "can" put up fema camps, its "has" put up fema camps

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:48 PM

View Postpraetorian-legio XIII, on 05 April 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Pointless personal attacks? I guess moral character its more important to some of us then others especially when its the person who represents our country.

Between Clinton's front page sexual exploits and obama's murdered gay lovers, you must be proud of the demotratic parties choice of leaders, I'm not.

Yes pointless personal attacks. Like your pathetic claims of murdered gay lovers. Little thing called slander. Obama must be doing an awesome job if that's what you're focused on. Maybe if you actually focused on real problems like an adult people would actually take you seriously.


View PostKowalski, on 05 April 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

Are all liberals as braindead as you two?

So instead of presenting a logical argument you resort to childless insults. Thank you for proving my point.

Edited by Corp, 05 April 2013 - 11:49 PM.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:21 AM

View PostKowalski, on 05 April 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

Are all liberals as braindead as you two?

They're not braindead, they're religious zealots.  Liberalism is morereligious fervor than a political cheering and these two are examples of the blind faith, fall on your knees, grovel  and blubber at the slightest brilliance falling from the lips of the holy of holies, Obama.  In other words, they ain't thinking straight.  :unsure2:

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 01:39 AM

It is a prime example. You can give a family of animals the world at their disposal and they will still find a reason to complain and try to gain peoples simpathy. You voted for them. luckily the country of United States of America has a third times a charm policy.  Were if the people are dumb enough to vote for an idiot two times in a row despite the the obvious downturn and misleadership, Our system automatically disqualifies the idiot the third round. 2016 hurry up while we still have some pocket change left!


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 03:19 AM

View PostMerc14, on 06 April 2013 - 12:21 AM, said:

They're not braindead, they're religious zealots.  Liberalism is morereligious fervor than a political cheering and these two are examples of the blind faith, fall on your knees, grovel  and blubber at the slightest brilliance falling from the lips of the holy of holies, Obama.  In other words, they ain't thinking straight.  :unsure2:

:rolleyes:

So if someone would rather hear legitimate problems with Obama, and there are many, instead of pointless personal attacks they're "religious zealots"? You are far more passionate about Obama than I am.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 03:25 AM

View PostCorp, on 06 April 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

:rolleyes:

So if someone would rather hear legitimate problems with Obama, and there are many, instead of pointless personal attacks they're "religious zealots"? You are far more passionate about Obama than I am.
OMG, Heresy!!!  OK, I'll bite, let us hear what legitimate problems you see with the chosen one.  Don't say John Boehner.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:34 PM

View Postpraetorian-legio XIII, on 05 April 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

The fema camp comment was just a metaphor for continued and increased government control over our lives, thanks to people (like you?) that voted for his royal highness and continue to turn a blind eye to what he is doing to this country.  

Paranoia is a medical condition that should be treated. I'm already very well aware of the immense benefits that will come with Obamacare implementation, the increases in green jobs and research into non-carbon based fuels, the massive recovery in process from the worst depression since the Great Depression, the pull out of the decade long wars, the repair of our image worldwide, doing away with a number of horrific ideas from the previous administration, as well as many other things, I'm certainly aware of what he's doing to this country. And yes I voted for him, campaigned for him, supported him. He was my senator. I don't agree with all of his policies but politics is the art of compromise. Something the Republicans have forgotten.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

View PostMerc14, on 06 April 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

OMG, Heresy!!!  OK, I'll bite, let us hear what legitimate problems you see with the chosen one.  Don't say John Boehner.

Although the Republicans are the cause of some of the positions he's taken. I would say most recently, his budget to cut Social Security. SS has no effect on the deficit. It will pay full benefits for 25 years and will work longer with extremely minor changes.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:40 PM

View Postninjadude, on 06 April 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

Paranoia is a medical condition that should be treated. I'm already very well aware of the immense benefits that will come with Obamacare implementation, the increases in green jobs and research into non-carbon based fuels, the massive recovery in process from the worst depression since the Great Depression, the pull out of the decade long wars, the repair of our image worldwide, doing away with a number of horrific ideas from the previous administration, as well as many other things, I'm certainly aware of what he's doing to this country. And yes I voted for him, campaigned for him, supported him. He was my senator. I don't agree with all of his policies but politics is the art of compromise. Something the Republicans have forgotten.

This is the single most delusional post I have ever seen on UM and that is saying something.  Nothing you said is true, or even remotely true and Obama care is already a disaster and getting worse.  If I didn't know you from past posts I'd assume this was a cynical satirical post but you actually believe this.  Unreal!

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:01 PM

View PostMerc14, on 06 April 2013 - 10:40 PM, said:

Obama care is already a disaster and getting worse.

See that's why you're the delusional one. Just making it up as you go along.

Obamacare has allowed 10's of thousands of students to remain on their parents plans, has allowed many who could not obtain catastrophic insurance at all to have that opportunity, allowed subscribers to get a refund of funds insurance companies did not use correctly. There are many benefits that have already occurred. When the exchanges open, insurance companies will be able to compete across state lines, thus lowering the cost of insurance. Is it all good? no. But there is much more good than bad. I know YOU won't read this but maybe others will take off their blinders and read http://obamacarefact...acare-facts.php

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:56 PM

My eyes fell to this link in your link. It's the taxes. It's mostly a big FU to the rich far as I can tell but...there is plenty of uncertainty. See the bold for example. Guess all the facts aren't there. I'm not big on speculation and projection when it comes to this subject.

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http://obamacarefact...acare-taxes.php
ObamaCare Taxes on The Average American

Under the new ObamaCare taxes the only tax that most Americans will pay is penalty for not purchasing insurance if one can afford it (explained below). However taxes affecting employers and the health care industry may have an indirect impact on some individuals, specifically employees of large firms affected by the tax hikes. Since most of the taxes haven't gone into effect yet, we don't have much to report beyond speculation as to their effects.

Will I pay More Taxes and High Premiums Because of ObamaCare?

Although we know most of the tax increases in ObamaCare, the price of insurance premiums is up in the air. As the exchanges are figured out and the health insurance companies start pricing insurance we will update our readers.

Please be aware that if your insurance premiums are raising you shouldn't be blaming Obamacare entirely. One of the best things Obamacare does is offer protections against health insurance companies raising premiums for profit called the rate review provision, a measure to provide rebates if companies don't spend 80% of their funds on health care called the 80/20 rule and additional protections like a quick appeal process. Additional protections don't go into effect until 2014 in most states.

Also low to middle income Americans are projected to save an average of 60% using credits and subsidies on the ObamaCare Insurance Exchanges.


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

View Postninjadude, on 06 April 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

See that's why you're the delusional one. Just making it up as you go along.

Obamacare has allowed 10's of thousands of students to remain on their parents plans, has allowed many who could not obtain catastrophic insurance at all to have that opportunity, allowed subscribers to get a refund of funds insurance companies did not use correctly. There are many benefits that have already occurred. When the exchanges open, insurance companies will be able to compete across state lines, thus lowering the cost of insurance. Is it all good? no. But there is much more good than bad. I know YOU won't read this but maybe others will take off their blinders and read http://obamacarefact...acare-facts.php

You think this is all being done with magic and fairy dust.  That the money is there but only Obama knew how to use it.  You miss the fact that millions have had tehir insurance costs rise precipitously, that millions have been reduced in hours at work, that businesses are not hiring because of this catastrophe.  You fail tp mention that the $900B program is now projected to cost nearly $2.5T and I guarantees that twill quadruple over the next few years.  Tens of thousands of doctors are retiring early, medicare is being gutted etc. etc.

See, these are big boy decisions with real world costs and effects and you aren't up to the task of dealing with the real word outcomes.  There is a reason this thing didn;t start kicking in until after the election and now most people are seeing that reason.(not you, of course, you live in la-la land)

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:40 AM

View PostMerc14, on 07 April 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

You think this is all being done with magic and fairy dust.  That the money is there but only Obama knew how to use it.  You miss the fact that millions have had tehir insurance costs rise precipitously, that millions have been reduced in hours at work, that businesses are not hiring because of this catastrophe.  You fail tp mention that the $900B program is now projected to cost nearly $2.5T and I guarantees that twill quadruple over the next few years.  Tens of thousands of doctors are retiring early, medicare is being gutted etc. etc.

See, these are big boy decisions with real world costs and effects and you aren't up to the task of dealing with the real word outcomes.  There is a reason this thing didn;t start kicking in until after the election and now most people are seeing that reason.(not you, of course, you live in la-la land)

He obviously doesn't mind that his children will pay the bill for all this....and our grandkids...someone has to pay for this "free" healthcare...


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:51 AM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 06 April 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

.there is plenty of uncertainty.

well of course. Can you predict the price of milk next year? Me neither.

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