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#16    Rafterman

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

So i was thinkin
and came up with this thought

how come nasa doesnt send those microbes and other simple organism that live in the harshest environments to other planets and moons and see how long they survive or even if they can evolve on other planets..

im pretty sure the evolution rate would vary from planet to planet

Actually NASA goes out of its way NOT to do this.

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The mission of the Office of Planetary Protection is to assist and promote the responsible exploration of the solar system by minimizing the biological contamination of explored environments. The purposes or intents of planetary protection are several-fold and include:
  • Preserving our ability to study other worlds as they exist in their natural states;
  • Avoiding the biological contamination of explored environments that may obscure our ability to find life elsewhere – if it exists; and
  • To ensure that we take prudent precautions to protect Earth’s biosphere in case life does exist elsewhere.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:56 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

how come nasa doesnt send those microbes and other simple organism that live in the harshest environments to other planets and moons and see how long they survive or even if they can evolve on other planets..
Because actually NASA know what they are doing is the short answer.

A question for you, how do you think we are going to discover life on Mars if we deliberately contaminate it with life from Earth?

Another question for you, do you really think it would be the intelligent and responsible thing to do to potentially wipe out an entire planet's native life by introducing life from Earth?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:57 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

rotation around its sun.

Other than solar energy (which can be simulated) and gravity, what would be the significance of that?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:02 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 05 April 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Because actually NASA know what they are doing is the short answer.

A question for you, how do you think we are going to discover life on Mars if we deliberately contaminate it with life from Earth?

Another question for you, do you really think it would be the intelligent and responsible thing to do to potentially wipe out an entire planet's native life by introducing life from Earth?

im talkin bout on planet we kno have no life which pretty much every planet


the simple organism will be the only life on any the planets we chose to send it to


and of course i dont think it will be any more risk to us than the risk of sending bots into space

i think its a good idea being that we are only going to be here for a sec on the universe's time table

we better leave our mark

if we send the organism out it prolly will be a trillion year before any reaction occurs and we will belong gone

but jus maybe we have sparked the life some where else and that the purpose of life is to extend it long after your is over

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

rotation around its sun.

As, at the moment, we can only reach planets in this solar system (i.e. ones thar revolve around OUR sun) your answer is pretty pointless.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

well if that case why are we lookin? and sending alien **** to other planets ?

One thing they're very careful to do is make sure that there are no micro-organisms on them before they set out, for that very reason.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:14 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:



im talkin bout on planet we kno have no life which pretty much every planet
Wrong. there are NO planets which we know have no life.

Apart from Earth there are no planets which we know do have life.

The two are not the same thing. Not knowing if something exists is not the same as knowing something doesn't exist.

It is very difficult to prove a negative and so it is virtually impossible to prove a planet is lifeless.

Of course if you had your way we would never learn if a planet had life because your "idea" would wipe it out before we had the chance.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 05 April 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Interfering in the ecosystems of other Planets? That's rarely a recipe for a happy outcome, in my experience. It can lead to all sorts of repercussions.
You have experience interfering in the ecosystems of other planets?


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 05 April 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

One thing they're very careful to do is make sure that there are no micro-organisms on them before they set out, for that very reason.

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 05 April 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Wrong. there are NO planets which we know have no life.

Apart from Earth there are no planets which we know do have life.

The two are not the same thing. Not knowing if something exists is not the same as knowing something doesn't exist.

It is very difficult to prove a negative and so it is virtually impossible to prove a planet is lifeless.

Of course if you had your way we would never learn if a planet had life because your "idea" would wipe it out before we had the chance.

View PostOverSword, on 05 April 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

You have experience interfering in the ecosystems of other planets?

here we go being closed mind humans again


the fact that we are able to even complete the task im suggesting might mean that was we were ment to do
it

maybe the only reason we are here is because some one 5 trillion years ago came up with the same idea from another planet


i think its our duty to try to spark life in other place so a trillions can go by and the life we spark can do the same and the cycle continues if we dont do it before we die ...in a way we failed as a human race and it will be no other life in the universe


the point of life is to keep it going.

the earth created us now its our job to mimic the earth and keep the cycle going
we are baby planets out sun created our planet and our planet created us and now our turn to keep the cycle going

leave it up to us to kill the cycle because we think we so special it has to be more of us instead of realize we are earthlings with the ability to put life on other planets

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

here we go being closed mind humans again

the fact that we are able to even complete the task im suggesting might mean that was we were ment to do
it

I really don't think you want people to think they 'were meant' to do something merely because they are able to; we are able to do all kinds of nasty things, including eliminating all human life on our planet.

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leave it up to us to kill the cycle because we think we so special it has to be more of us instead of realize we are earthlings with the ability to put life on other planets

?  I think you have this backwards; if we thought we were so special it seems that would more justify us seeding other planets with earth life with no regards to the life that may already be there.  To risk eliminating or contaminating other life on other planets is to erase perhaps the most important potential discovery in human history, that life exists on other planets.  And you seem to want to do it because of some responsibility we have to this 'cycle' you keep referring to that exists solely in your imagination currently with no evidence to support it; seems like a big risk to take based just on what 'might be'.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:49 PM

View PostLiquid Gardens, on 05 April 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

I really don't think you want people to think they 'were meant' to do something merely because they are able to; we are able to do all kinds of nasty things, including eliminating all human life on our planet.



?  I think you have this backwards; if we thought we were so special it seems that would more justify us seeding other planets with earth life with no regards to the life that may already be there.  To risk eliminating or contaminating other life on other planets is to erase perhaps the most important potential discovery in human history, that life exists on other planets.  And you seem to want to do it because of some responsibility we have to this 'cycle' you keep referring to that exists solely in your imagination currently with no evidence to support it; seems like a big risk to take based just on what 'might be'.

why do yall keep saying destroying life that might be on the planet



clearly the planet we send the organisms on will be a planet we think is lifeless......


its so many planets out there


9 out of 10 what we send will not be able to live and then we would know chances of that planet ever having life is none

if the organism live and thrive for decades we know that life indeed can thrive on other planets and help us figure out about how we got here maybe we did hitch a ride on a comet or was sent from another planet by another life

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:41 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

clearly the planet we send the organisms on will be a planet we think is lifeless......

Belief is not good enough.

I suggest that you go back and read Waspies last post again.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 05 April 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

success rate.
and provide a median  of environments

They could do all that in a lab and see what happened in detail.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

View Postbadeskov, on 05 April 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

They could do all that in a lab and see what happened in detail.

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can they simulate time as well?


if so they need to do it
same difference


i dont believe they can simulate a whole other planet in no dam lab ........

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