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Peter Higgs: stop calling it the god particle


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#1    Render

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:53 AM

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The scientist behind the Higgs boson, Prof Peter Higgs, has urged people to stop calling it the God particle


http://www.telegraph...d-particle.html




Now that Cern has confirmed the Higgs boson exists, should people stop calling it the 'God particle'?   79% Yes   21% No
http://www.guardian....d-particle-poll



The Higgs boson: Why scientists hate that you call it the ‘God particle’

http://news.national...e-god-particle/


The Inventor Of The Higgs Boson Hates That We Call It 'The God Particle'

http://www.businessi...particle-2013-4




AND BTW, the actual name for the particle is the Englert-Brout-Higgs...because actually Englert-Brout were first but Higgs discovered it in parallel in his life and in the first article that appeared about it , the idiot journalist took a lil shortcut of ignorance and only named Higgs.

Edited by Render, 09 April 2013 - 06:55 AM.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:14 AM

So what does Boson feel about it?

Life is a hideous business, and from the background behind what we know of it peer daemoniacal hints of truth which make it sometimes a thousandfold more hideous.

H. P. Lovecraft.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:49 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 09 April 2013 - 07:14 AM, said:

So what does Boson feel about it?

Irrelevant.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:01 AM

This is an example of how too often scientists use religious terminologies to say things that the religious types misinterpret.  When physicists talk about "god" they don't mean God but use the word just as a short and slightly mischievous way of referring to "the way things are."

I suppose in a perfect world we would all respect one another's beliefs and as a result never use someone's religious words in a flip way, but somehow I doubt that will ever happen.

Anyway, now it's official: "God particle" is politically incorrect.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 09 April 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

This is an example of how too often scientists use religious terminologies to say things that the religious types misinterpret.  When physicists talk about "god" they don't mean God but use the word just as a short and slightly mischievous way of referring to "the way things are."

I suppose in a perfect world we would all respect one another's beliefs and as a result never use someone's religious words in a flip way, but somehow I doubt that will ever happen.

Anyway, now it's official: "God particle" is politically incorrect.
Someone should ring God up and tell Him to get out of the way, we're doing just fine...  :w00t:

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:57 AM

View PostRender, on 09 April 2013 - 07:49 AM, said:

Irrelevant.

You mean Mr. Boson is irrelevant? That doesn't seem very kind.

Life is a hideous business, and from the background behind what we know of it peer daemoniacal hints of truth which make it sometimes a thousandfold more hideous.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:28 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 09 April 2013 - 08:57 AM, said:

You mean Mr. Boson is irrelevant? That doesn't seem very kind.

It's irrelevant to this because the boson isn't only linked to the Higgs....sheesh. Trying to start a discussion about something pointless, very annoying.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:19 PM

I think the term "God particle", however incorrect, is going to stick with the mainstream.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:48 PM

scientists are funny people. Ever since the beginning, when religion was talking about other dimensions, the existence of god, parallel universes, and all these unbelievable things. Unfortunately religion back then didn't have any proof. So the atheist/scientists in those days didn't believe them. Thank god for all the scientists that has contributed most of their lives to gather data and facts to prove that our universe is exactly what those religions preached about. What a crazy world we live in. And still to this day even though we think that we are so far advance in society, we are still going on theories on what a black hole is. Also we still don't know what caused the big bang, why it banged, or to make it even worse... was there ever a bang? Scientists/atheists we need you to prove that this world is more creepier than we originally thought it was... in the beginning.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:16 AM

I'm sure if I had a particle named after me I would want it named that too.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:34 AM

View Postpitchp, on 09 April 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

scientists are funny people. Ever since the beginning, when religion was talking about other dimensions, the existence of god, parallel universes, and all these unbelievable things. Unfortunately religion back then didn't have any proof. So the atheist/scientists in those days didn't believe them. Thank god for all the scientists that has contributed most of their lives to gather data and facts to prove that our universe is exactly what those religions preached about. What a crazy world we live in. And still to this day even though we think that we are so far advance in society, we are still going on theories on what a black hole is. Also we still don't know what caused the big bang, why it banged, or to make it even worse... was there ever a bang? Scientists/atheists we need you to prove that this world is more creepier than we originally thought it was... in the beginning.


WAT?

There is no "proof" that there is a 'multiverse'.  It is speculated because everything in this univers is in balance from the Big Bang .  The thought is that there must have been more than one with less than sucessful results.  These other universes would probably not be accessible to any others even if they did have life.

As far as religion goes, at lest in the bible, there is talk about other spiritual realms.  This does not say anything for science.  This is similar to a farytale with dragons.  If you look at dinosaurs, than yes we did have "dragons".  But the nature and meaning are something totally different.  This argument that religion had anything important to offer is getting old.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:50 AM

a black hole is not really black. or a hole. see anyone complain about THAT?


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

I think the dimensions and other universes and so on that scientists speak of have nothing to do with the spirit realm and other ideas of religions.  Scientists have observations and so on that lead them to infer such things, not speculations and revelations.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:15 AM

View Postpitchp, on 09 April 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

scientists are funny people. Ever since the beginning, when religion was talking about other dimensions, the existence of god, parallel universes, and all these unbelievable things.
Which religions would they be?

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Unfortunately religion back then didn't have any proof. So the atheist/scientists in those days didn't believe them.
Guess what, they still dont.

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Thank god for all the scientists that has contributed most of their lives to gather data and facts to prove that our universe is exactly what those religions preached about.
Do you have any names? Is Kent Hovind one of them?
No scientist has proven the universe is exactly like the religions preach.

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What a crazy world we live in. And still to this day even though we think that we are so far advance in society, we are still going on theories on what a black hole is. Also we still don't know what caused the big bang, why it banged, or to make it even worse... was there ever a bang? Scientists/atheists we need you to prove that this world is more creepier than we originally thought it was... in the beginning.
It is more interesting that people like you need to clutch at straws.

Edited by Rlyeh, 10 April 2013 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:09 PM

Is it just me or does Mr. Higgs look like he giving a sermon, lol.





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