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#31    Kowalski

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:24 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 09 April 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:



every one of those kids was prescribed medications that indicate that type of behavior as a side effect. So thats a mental health issue at the minimum. But yeah dont know what the prescribing practices are in other places but the term handing them out like candy is used here.



I believe many of the drugs that are commonly prescribed here, are banned in the UK. Just sayin…


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:24 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Yeah... I think its a mindset thing, many Americans I have met/spoken too have a very inward looking "fortress" style attitude.

"Its MY home"

"Its MY land"

"These are MY rights"

"Its MY space"

"Its MY opinion"

All of the above are often framed in very... agressive almost militant terms the like of which I cant recall finding in people from other places in the world I have spoken too.  And instead of having a chat about it, or asking some polite questions it seems the go-to response for any percived infringement upon the above is a violent one.  I dont really know why.

I can see what you are saying,as another has already stated the reason for this is our freedoms are being taken away faster and faster everyday.My problem with others opinions from around the world is that as soon as an american tries to simply state their reasoning behind their opinions others start saying stupidity,ignorance,arrogance, and uncultured.I can have a reasonable debate with anyone but as soon as the pompous start their rants the gloves come off.Not talking about you personally but surely you have seen some of these that i speak of.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:40 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 09 April 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Like say for instance....Nigeria ? Afghanistan ? Palestine ? Mexico ? Rwanda ? Libya ? Egypt ? Syria ? these things happen all over the world we just have a thing media sensationalism that drives these things into the MSM and they try to outcompete each other for coverage.

So your comparing (in order).

A  young, developing oil-state rife with corruption, a semi-functioning nation in the middle of a sustained war, a semi-state that has existed in a state of non-stop warfare and terroriest attacks for decades, a state currently overun with drug-cartel related crime to such a degree its virtually at war, several dictatorships/failed states rife with corruption, inequality and riven by social and ethnic/religious upheaval and violence.

To a stable democracy with a functioning economy, massive military power and a place at the forefront of the global economic and politcal stage?

Come again?


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Yeah... I think its a mindset thing, many Americans I have met/spoken too have a very inward looking "fortress" style attitude.

"Its MY home"

"Its MY land"

"These are MY rights"

"Its MY space"

"Its MY opinion"

All of the above are often framed in very... agressive almost militant terms the like of which I cant recall finding in people from other places in the world I have spoken too.  And instead of having a chat about it, or asking some polite questions it seems the go-to response for any percived infringement upon the above is a violent one.  I dont really know why.
ummmm...ridiculous.  Maybe when the Americans you talk to are all on TV or a movie screen that's the response..."Feel lucky punk...well, do you" not real.  That being said if I think you're infringing on my rights, my property, my space.....I will hurt you! :gun:

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:18 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

Socialist is Fascist?

My main point, is that the go-to response is one of irrational anger.

By way of example.

In the USA if a child/young adult/adult is feeling isolated and bullied etc etc a fairly "common" response appears to be "Ill show em! Ill show em all! will make them all pay!" Some of them then go and grab an m16, wander onto campus and mow down a dozen or so people, most of whom would have likely never met the offender.

Its not a rational response, it simply does not really happen in other countries.  Even if you feel your "rights" are being infringed upon, the rational response is not mass slaughter.
All Americans who have ever killed or know someone who has killed a bunch of people at school raise your hand......Nobody?  That's what I thought.  I'll tell yo what wyrdlght, your country is about the size of one of our smaller states.  When you live in a bigger country like the USA, China, or India, this type of thing happens because there is just that many more people.  You can't look at one European country and compare that to the USA, you have to look at the whole of Europe.  Does this ever happen in Europe?  I don't know, lets ask google:

Mass shootings in Europe




The shootings in the eastern Belgian city of Liege and Florence, Italy, on Tuesday have several precedents over the past 10 years in Europe:
- September 27, 2001 - SWITZERLAND
A man bursts into the local assembly in the central Swiss town of Zug and opens fire, killing 14 members of parliament and local government then turning the gun on himself.
- March 27, 2002 - FRANCE
Eight local councillors are killed and 19 injured when a man opens fire on members of the municipal council of Nanterre, outside Paris. He kills himself the next day while in police custody.
- April 26, 2002 - GERMANY
Sixteen people, including 12 teachers and two students, are gunned down at a school in Erfurt in eastern Germany by a 19-year-old former student, apparently in revenge for having been expelled, who then killed himself.
- November 7, 2007 - FINLAND
An 18-year-old goes on a shooting rampage in a school in the southern Finnish town of Tuusula, killing eight people before shooting himself.
- September 23, 2008 - FINLAND
Eleven people, including the 22-year-old gunman, die in a massacre at a training school at Kauhajoki, Finland.
- March 11, 2009 - GERMANY
Nine pupils, three teachers and three passers-by are killed in a school shooting at Winnenden in southern Germany by a former pupil who then kills himself.
- June 2, 2010 - ENGLAND
Twelve people are killed when a 52-year-old taxi driver goes on a shooting spree in the English region of Cumbria, before killing himself.
- April 9, 2011 - THE NETHERLANDS
A gunman opens fire in a packed mall in the Netherlands, killing six people before shooting himself dead.
- July 22, 2011- NORWAY

Wow, what do you know, other people outside of America are violent too.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

What I dont really get, is the disturbing frequency of these rampage style crimes.  No other nation that I can think of has them to such a degree, Canada, UK, France, Germany, in fact all of Europe.

The arguement that not all the nations have guns is meaningless, many of the above nations have public-acess firearms, any anyways, this rampage was with a blade.

So why is it that this seems to happen in the USA more than anywhere else?

It must be some kind of cultural thing, its almost akin to some form of socio-cultural sickness.

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Yeah... I think its a mindset thing, many Americans I have met/spoken too have a very inward looking "fortress" style attitude.

"Its MY home"

"Its MY land"

"These are MY rights"

"Its MY space"

"Its MY opinion"

All of the above are often framed in very... agressive almost militant terms the like of which I cant recall finding in people from other places in the world I have spoken too.  And instead of having a chat about it, or asking some polite questions it seems the go-to response for any percived infringement upon the above is a violent one.  I dont really know why.

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

Well, maybe not "common" but the fact still remains that this sort of thing occurs in the USA more than other nations.


I think it's because of overpopulation. Too many people, causing too many problems (heard that in a song once).

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:43 PM

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A  young, developing oil-state rife with corruption, a semi-functioning nation in the middle of a sustained war, a semi-state that has existed in a state of non-stop warfare and terroriest attacks for decades, a state currently overun with drug-cartel related crime to such a degree its virtually at war, several dictatorships/failed states rife with corruption, inequality and riven by social and ethnic/religious upheaval and violence.

Yep that sounds alot like USA.

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To a stable democracy with a functioning economy, massive military power and a place at the forefront of the global economic and politcal stage?

Not sure the worlds too bright if there following our lead on the world political stage.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

What's up Wyrdlight, no response?  I'm waiting for you to tell me how bloodthirsty America is compared to the rest of the world.  Well?


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:01 PM

I see it this way. If it had been a gun most if not all of those people would be dead.  Plus this is Texas, why did nobody have a gun to stop this guy.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 09 April 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

I see it this way. If it had been a gun most if not all of those people would be dead.  Plus this is Texas, why did nobody have a gun to stop this guy.

Because, contrary to popular belief, everyone is not armed to the teeth at all times. We are not afraid to walk around unarmed or to leave our doors unlocked in most areas. This is a misconception that has been fed to you by your media.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:12 PM

View PostMichelle, on 09 April 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Because, contrary to popular belief, everyone is not armed to the teeth at all times. We are not afraid to walk around unarmed or to leave our doors unlocked in most areas. This is a misconception that has been fed to you by your media.

I get that but this is Texas not California.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:15 PM

View PostOverSword, on 09 April 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

What's up Wyrdlight, no response?  I'm waiting for you to tell me how bloodthirsty America is compared to the rest of the world.  Well?

People complain that Americans think they are the center of the world, but if you look at news in their countries you would think we are. It's apparent, even on these boards, very few people care what goes on in other parts of the world by the number of responces in the US sections.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 09 April 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

I get that but this is Texas not California.

Why would that matter? Do you think people don't have guns in California even with their strict gun laws? Or are the peopla in Texas supposed to be more gun happy?


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

What I dont really get, is the disturbing frequency of these rampage style crimes.  No other nation that I can think of has them to such a degree, Canada, UK, France, Germany, in fact all of Europe.

The arguement that not all the nations have guns is meaningless, many of the above nations have public-acess firearms, any anyways, this rampage was with a blade.

So why is it that this seems to happen in the USA more than anywhere else?

It must be some kind of cultural thing, its almost akin to some form of socio-cultural sickness.
   You are not alone,the killing spree happens regularly in Iraq, Syria , Russia and a few others, Some Criminally insane group or terrorist fanatic ,is always on the prowl, looking for innocent victims,unfortunately there is no way of stopping it.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

View PostMichelle, on 09 April 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

Why would that matter? Do you think people don't have guns in California even with their strict gun laws? Or are the peopla in Texas supposed to be more gun happy?

Of course people have guns in Cali just not like Texas.  I'm just suprised there was no one around who happend to carry that day.

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