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#16    moonshadow60

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:27 PM

Even in an operating theater medical personnel are told to speak repectfully around sedated patients as though they are awake, alert, and aware of what is going on.  There are different levels of unconsciousness.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:30 PM

View Postaztek, on 11 April 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

lol, no he doesn't, have you ever been in coma?

This guy has and he says differently:

http://www.independe...ord-415327.html

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:31 PM

View Postmoonshadow60, on 11 April 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

There are different levels of unconsciousness.

As the politics forum shows.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

View PostHilander, on 11 April 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

They had each others power of attorney but a family member didn't like him being there.
Sounds like a lawsuit to me against the hospital if the Power of Attorney is properly set up.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:51 PM

View PostOverSword, on 11 April 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Then why do doctors encourage people to talk to coma patients?  Why do they leave the TV on in coma wards?

I think it's a random chance type thing.  Rarely when I dream I overhear voices if they're talking in the same room inside of my dream.  It's kind of strange but it does happen.  Never been in a coma so I can't say for sure if the same applies to that.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:57 PM

That's really cruel of the ill persons family.  The last thing you want to do to some one in a hospital is take away their support and loved ones.  It's sickening that the family is only thinking of themselves and not the patient.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 01:56 AM

I'm a supporter on gay marriage, but just for the sake of argument, had this couple been legally married, would the outcome had been any different?

It didn't seem like the hospital was listening to the man, regardless of his legal status.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 02:11 AM

I hope the partner sues.
It's one step forward for equality.
You can bet your ass that once a lawsuit is slapped down, hospitals and businesses alike, will be listening a little better.
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:13 AM

View Postsupervike, on 12 April 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

I'm a supporter on gay marriage, but just for the sake of argument, had this couple been legally married, would the outcome had been any different?

It didn't seem like the hospital was listening to the man, regardless of his legal status.
I doubt they'd have sided with the family over the spouse if the spouse was a woman.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:29 AM

i am not a supporter of changing the definition of marriage, but that was only because i thought we, as the human race, have gotten over biggotry. This article proves otherwise.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:43 AM

I saw this on the news the hospital's spin was the guy was makeing a scene.
But i bet thats bull.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:15 AM

View PostCoffey, on 11 April 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Disgusting... Absolutely shocking.


If the guy in hospital signed power of attorney to his partner then it's his choice who visits him not his families. This is BS.


I also never understood how a family can be like that. Even if you are against homosexuality, you still love that person if they are family and should just accept their choice of partner and welcome them to the fmaily. What the hell do they expect to happen from this?!


Damn if I was in this situation and recovered fully my family would know damn fine how angry I was about it. All they are going to do is hurt everyone and it will come back on them. Stupid.


I don't care if people don't want to accept homosexuality, it's their choice and they are free to do so, but not allowing Gay people to have the same rights is wrong. That's taking their freedom of choice.

I have seen this happen a few times with legal spouses of patients.

Regardless of power of attorney (which ONLY allows for the type of care being received, not who can visit, unless specifically mentioned), if the family of the patient doesn't want some one to visit, unless the patient is able to over ride it, or the policy of the hospital states otherwise, the hospital staff goes by family. Right or wrong, doesn't matter, hospital policy always sides with immediate family - though, there are a few exceptions.

What "freedom of choice" are you talking about?

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:17 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 12 April 2013 - 03:13 AM, said:

I doubt they'd have sided with the family over the spouse if the spouse was a woman.

You obviously haven't seen many women with their mothers-in-law. Talk about WW3 starting...

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:31 AM

View PostQueen in the North, on 11 April 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Yeah, but:
"He said the nurse refused to confirm that the couple shared power of attorney and made medical decision for each other.
“She didn’t even bother to look it up, to check in to it,” the Lee’s Summit resident recalled."

Family member should have left, imo. Especially if the partner is the one who's able to make medical decisions.

Since she didn't bother to look it up (which, as a nurse, that's not her responsibility), HE should have provided the documentation.

However, if it were general medical POA, that just relates to care, not who can and can not visit (nor does it actually allow the agent to visit the patient). For that, a seperate POA would have to be made, unless you have a living will, which specifies who you want to visit you, as well as who you don't want let in.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:05 AM

View PostHilander, on 11 April 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

One of the reasons gay people should be allowed to marry or given some sort of legal rights so this doesn't happen.  They had each others power of attorney but a family member didn't like him being there.

According to your link, the hospital´s statement is:

"the patient`s needs are always our first priority. When anyone becomes disruptive to providing the necessary patient care, we involve our security team to help calm the situation and to protect our patients and staff. If the situation continues to escalate, we have no choice but to request police assistance"

That sounds a bit different from your description. If he was disruptive to patient care, he should be removed, period.

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