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#1    Paradoxum

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:57 PM

Hey UM :)

Three of my work colleagues and me have recently discovered we all have a healthy (or unhealthy) interest in the paranormal due to personal incidents in our pasts. We thought it would be a really good idea to do some investigation to see if we can get any proof, which seems so so elusive. We are all in our 30s, not kids/teens, and are all aware of the usual ghost hunters/adventures etc techniques and equipment. We are lining up a night in a very old theatre where I live - in which many people have had personal experiences. I'm both looking forward to it but also a bit nervous about it considering experiences I have had when I was young.

I'm a fairly new member of UM, and seeing the amount of both believers and skeptics on this site, what advice would you give? What would you consider as "evidence"?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:00 PM

Good luck, be sure to come back and let us know how it went.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:31 PM

That sounds like fun and after seeing a ghost I tried it a little.  Took pictures of family cemeteries, long abandoned and what was left of the house and never got anything.  There are some pictures in My Gallery if interested.

I honestly don't know how you could prove you had a picture of a real ghost.  Photoshop is too easy anymore.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:34 PM

What part of England if you don't mind me asking?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:08 PM

Sure I will certainly post anything we find. I'm in Norwich, loads of old places here to explore, the tricky part is getting access to them...

View PostHilander, on 11 April 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

That sounds like fun and after seeing a ghost I tried it a little.  Took pictures of family cemeteries, long abandoned and what was left of the house and never got anything.  There are some pictures in My Gallery if interested.

I honestly don't know how you could prove you had a picture of a real ghost.  Photoshop is too easy anymore.

Good Luck.

I will look :) and I agree, Photoshop is way too easy :/ I'd bet photoshop images look more genuine than the real thing..

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:13 PM

View PostMurk, on 11 April 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Sure I will certainly post anything we find. I'm in Norwich, loads of old places here to explore, the tricky part is getting access to them...

Haha no way, I'm in Norwich. :tu:


The place is amazing for old buildings.

You heard the story about the flat in tomb land?

Edited by Coffey, 11 April 2013 - 08:16 PM.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:13 PM

Research, and then some more research.... Make sure that what you are investigating really is supposed to be a haunt. I say this because a lot of purported haunts really have no basis, like an axeman bridge when no axeman died there, or a RR crossing that ghost kids help you across when there was no kid accident there.
Might be wise to choose a place that is regularly haunted instead of annually haunted. It can be frustrating to wait all year for that one night at that particular time, get nothing, then have to wait a year again.
Always learn the law of the land. Like if you are going into a cemetery, find out who owns it, if you need permission to be there, what the hours for visitation are. Abandoned buildings are almost always owned by someone. And parking laws- super sucks to go on a hunt and come back out to find your car ticketed or towed. Don't be an illegal hunter- if you are willing to commit a crime to hunt, kind of says something about your character in general, and can cast anything you get into doubt.
Be willing to hunt during the day and night. Ghost stories seem to pop up at all hours of the day, so be willing to hunt that way too. It's not guaranteed, but some folks lend a little more credence when you can say you were there multiple times at multiple times instead of just "I was in a haunt once at night and...".

NEVER HUNT ALONE!!! It's a good thing you got buddies that want to hunt with you. Mostly it's for safety, like if you trip over a gravestone or crunch through a floor and hurt yourself. Some folks will pick on a hunter alone, but be less likely to if there is more than one of you. And just on a personal story note, it's nice to have someone else along for those moments of "Did I just experience that?" and have someone else there to say "Yep, I did too."
Another safety thing- let someone at home know where you are going and how long you plan on being gone. If something goes wrong, good to have someone not on the hunt know what's going on.

Since you are just starting out, I would say skip most of the equipment action. A camera or recorder is fine, but don't worry about all the rest of it unless you really really start getting into hunting-and even then, take all that equipment with a grain of salt and test it in regular locations to get yourself a baseline. And use your equipment consistently. If you take a pic, take 2-4 in a row for comparison. If your camera has a time stamp, make sure that it is turned on and set correctly. DON"T go back and review every pic you take while you are taking it- if you are catching something, you are likely to miss out while looking back at the camera. If you are using a recorder, don't chatter away like they do on TV.

Have fun. Don't just be serious, enjoy the haunts too. Some places are incredibly lovely and rich in history even if you don't get a single shiver, take time to enjoy that.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:14 PM

Digital photos are too easy to manipulate. If you are able to get your hands on 33mm film camera then your'e in better luck. Video, on the other hand isnt as easy to tamper with.  Make sure you are using a camera with a "low lux" or "night feature" that will allow you to film in relative darkness. Still then, your footage will be darkish. Know your voice recorder.  Use it a few times at home to make sure you know how it functions. It's hard to see in the dark.
Good luck and happy hunting. :tu:


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:18 PM

View Postrashore, on 11 April 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Research, and then some more research.... Make sure that what you are investigating really is supposed to be a haunt. I say this because a lot of purported haunts really have no basis, like an axeman bridge when no axeman died there, or a RR crossing that ghost kids help you across when there was no kid accident there.
Might be wise to choose a place that is regularly haunted instead of annually haunted. It can be frustrating to wait all year for that one night at that particular time, get nothing, then have to wait a year again.
Always learn the law of the land. Like if you are going into a cemetery, find out who owns it, if you need permission to be there, what the hours for visitation are. Abandoned buildings are almost always owned by someone. And parking laws- super sucks to go on a hunt and come back out to find your car ticketed or towed. Don't be an illegal hunter- if you are willing to commit a crime to hunt, kind of says something about your character in general, and can cast anything you get into doubt.
Be willing to hunt during the day and night. Ghost stories seem to pop up at all hours of the day, so be willing to hunt that way too. It's not guaranteed, but some folks lend a little more credence when you can say you were there multiple times at multiple times instead of just "I was in a haunt once at night and...".

NEVER HUNT ALONE!!! It's a good thing you got buddies that want to hunt with you. Mostly it's for safety, like if you trip over a gravestone or crunch through a floor and hurt yourself. Some folks will pick on a hunter alone, but be less likely to if there is more than one of you. And just on a personal story note, it's nice to have someone else along for those moments of "Did I just experience that?" and have someone else there to say "Yep, I did too."
Another safety thing- let someone at home know where you are going and how long you plan on being gone. If something goes wrong, good to have someone not on the hunt know what's going on.

Since you are just starting out, I would say skip most of the equipment action. A camera or recorder is fine, but don't worry about all the rest of it unless you really really start getting into hunting-and even then, take all that equipment with a grain of salt and test it in regular locations to get yourself a baseline. And use your equipment consistently. If you take a pic, take 2-4 in a row for comparison. If your camera has a time stamp, make sure that it is turned on and set correctly. DON"T go back and review every pic you take while you are taking it- if you are catching something, you are likely to miss out while looking back at the camera. If you are using a recorder, don't chatter away like they do on TV.

Have fun. Don't just be serious, enjoy the haunts too. Some places are incredibly lovely and rich in history even if you don't get a single shiver, take time to enjoy that.


Norwich was hit pretty hard by the plague. Loads of ghost stories here concerning that. Also the Roman Catholic cathedral here used to drop people from the highest tower onto their heads for stealing etc. :no:

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:25 PM

View Postrashore, on 11 April 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Research, and then some more research.... Make sure that what you are investigating really is supposed to be a haunt. I say this because a lot of purported haunts really have no basis, like an axeman bridge when no axeman died there, or a RR crossing that ghost kids help you across when there was no kid accident there.
Might be wise to choose a place that is regularly haunted instead of annually haunted. It can be frustrating to wait all year for that one night at that particular time, get nothing, then have to wait a year again.
Always learn the law of the land. Like if you are going into a cemetery, find out who owns it, if you need permission to be there, what the hours for visitation are. Abandoned buildings are almost always owned by someone. And parking laws- super sucks to go on a hunt and come back out to find your car ticketed or towed. Don't be an illegal hunter- if you are willing to commit a crime to hunt, kind of says something about your character in general, and can cast anything you get into doubt.
Be willing to hunt during the day and night. Ghost stories seem to pop up at all hours of the day, so be willing to hunt that way too. It's not guaranteed, but some folks lend a little more credence when you can say you were there multiple times at multiple times instead of just "I was in a haunt once at night and...".

NEVER HUNT ALONE!!! It's a good thing you got buddies that want to hunt with you. Mostly it's for safety, like if you trip over a gravestone or crunch through a floor and hurt yourself. Some folks will pick on a hunter alone, but be less likely to if there is more than one of you. And just on a personal story note, it's nice to have someone else along for those moments of "Did I just experience that?" and have someone else there to say "Yep, I did too."
Another safety thing- let someone at home know where you are going and how long you plan on being gone. If something goes wrong, good to have someone not on the hunt know what's going on.

Since you are just starting out, I would say skip most of the equipment action. A camera or recorder is fine, but don't worry about all the rest of it unless you really really start getting into hunting-and even then, take all that equipment with a grain of salt and test it in regular locations to get yourself a baseline. And use your equipment consistently. If you take a pic, take 2-4 in a row for comparison. If your camera has a time stamp, make sure that it is turned on and set correctly. DON"T go back and review every pic you take while you are taking it- if you are catching something, you are likely to miss out while looking back at the camera. If you are using a recorder, don't chatter away like they do on TV.

Have fun. Don't just be serious, enjoy the haunts too. Some places are incredibly lovely and rich in history even if you don't get a single shiver, take time to enjoy that.

Good advice Rashore and thanks. We will be in pairs and I'm going to focus more on sounds and still images rather than walking around with a camcorder. There won't be any Ouija or table tipping etc as that has no credence for me. The place we are planning to go to has a *very* long history spanning back hundreds of years so it will be very intriguing.

And the most important thing - we will have permission to go there. I'm too old to break into places. lol. :innocent:

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

View PostCoffey, on 11 April 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Haha no way, I'm in Norwich. :tu:


The place is amazing for old buildings.

You heard the story about the flat in tomb land?

Hey - no way you are very local (or looocal in norfolk speak :) Is this the house in Magdelen Street? There are loads of ghost stories in Tombland due to the plague pits..

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:39 PM

Welcome to UM.....

What not to be used as evidence...

" EVP's "

" EMF's "

" Ghost Box "

" orbs or other blurry pictures "

" multi spectrum photography "

" thermal imaging "





What would be evidence?

A clear video of when someone says " hey, did you see that guy, he was clear as day "....( or pictures )

Evidence would be something strong enough that you could go to your local University and say " look at what we have "........And, if they actually started studying the place you went, because of your evidence you shared, then you really have something.








Suggestions....


Learn, learn, learn.....

Not about " ghosts ", but about how sound travels, how electro magnetic fields are EVERYWHERE, about how radio signals travel ( more at night ), about how anything you plan on working really works, and what it does.

Using tools that are made for other KNOWN things as a " ghost hunting tool " is ridiculous.

Research how the mind can be when influenced in situations you will, and are going through......Research the psychology of ghost hunting, and the " want " to believe or find something. The " want " to make people believe......The " addiction " to these things.


After you start researching those things, you may see a new light, and not " believe " in ghosts so much.

I used to, not anymore.


Enjoy, hope you take that advice.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:44 PM

View PostMurk, on 11 April 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

Hey - no way you are very local (or looocal in norfolk speak :) Is this the house in Magdelen Street? There are loads of ghost stories in Tombland due to the plague pits..

Yeah lived here for 4 going on 5 years. Read about all the ghost stories etc when i first moved here.

It's the one next to the Tombland book store, through the little lane with the house over the lane. Has this door on the house:

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It's the one about the little girl who got locked in with her dead family, when they opened the door to get rid of the bodies etc they discovered bite marks on the mothers arm and human flesh in the little girls mouth, she was locked in alive and resorted to trying to eat her mother. Horrible story but people say it's haunted with her ghost.

it's across form that pub/hotel which is supposed to be haunted as well.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostSakari, on 11 April 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Welcome to UM.....

What not to be used as evidence...

" EVP's "

" EMF's "

" Ghost Box "

" orbs or other blurry pictures "

" multi spectrum photography "

" thermal imaging "





What would be evidence?

A clear video of when someone says " hey, did you see that guy, he was clear as day "....( or pictures )

Evidence would be something strong enough that you could go to your local University and say " look at what we have "........And, if they actually started studying the place you went, because of your evidence you shared, then you really have something.








Suggestions....


Learn, learn, learn.....

Not about " ghosts ", but about how sound travels, how electro magnetic fields are EVERYWHERE, about how radio signals travel ( more at night ), about how anything you plan on working really works, and what it does.

Using tools that are made for other KNOWN things as a " ghost hunting tool " is ridiculous.

Research how the mind can be when influenced in situations you will, and are going through......Research the psychology of ghost hunting, and the " want " to believe or find something. The " want " to make people believe......The " addiction " to these things.


After you start researching those things, you may see a new light, and not " believe " in ghosts so much.

I used to, not anymore.


Enjoy, hope you take that advice.

Thanks Sakari, I think the psychological side of it will be the most challenging part about it. We are all very level headed so I'm not anticipating us over-reacting. I have had unexplained events happen to me when I was young, most of which I can rationalise and explain, but one event I cannot. Hence the curiousity. Whatever we do discover I will put up here for scrutiny.

So if you were trying to capture physical evidence, such as anything you could present to academics, what would you suggest?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:51 PM

View PostCoffey, on 11 April 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Yeah lived here for 4 going on 5 years. Read about all the ghost stories etc when i first moved here.

It's the one next to the Tombland book store, through the little lane with the house over the lane. Has this door on the house:

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It's the one about the little girl who got locked in with her dead family, when they opened the door to get rid of the bodies etc they discovered bite marks on the mothers arm and human flesh in the little girls mouth, she was locked in alive and resorted to trying to eat her mother. Horrible story but people say it's haunted with her ghost.

it's across form that pub/hotel which is supposed to be haunted as well.

Ah yes I know it :) Its just across from the Maids Head hotel. I go past that every day on the way to work. Its a medieval building and its still as skewed now, if there weren't buildings around it, it would have fallen over by now! I hadn't heard about that particular story though, it does sounds very similar to a house about 400 yards away which apparently regularly changes hands due to the activity there. But then there are about 6-8 ghost stories within a mile of that place, maybe more. Norwich is a very old place, if you are going to catch anything you would think it would be a prime location!

Edited by Murk, 11 April 2013 - 08:52 PM.

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