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Was MLK a communist?


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#1    spartan max2

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:34 AM

So recently i have stumbled upon someone saying MLK was a communist. So i look it up on google and alot of sources say that FBI files released about him shows he has communist ties. Alot of people in his movment were communist too.

I was just wondering if this was true. So if anyone knows anything else please share.

So feel free to look this up and tell me what you think.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:11 AM

Don't know if he was Communist. Having ties to Communists means nothing.... though he was a communityist :w00t:

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:14 AM

He was assassinated for his comments.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

I don't think there's any actual evidence he was a communist. He might well have been influenced by socialism, but that's no bad thing, either in the USA or the rest of the world. Many Americans are too chauvinist to admit it (they even moved Labour Day to September from May to make people think it wasn't a Socialist holiday, for instance, but it totally, obviously is), but the US is also strongly influenced by Socialism and most of the workers' rights Americans enjoy came from Socialist and Unionist crusaders.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 07:32 PM

When he was much younger the Dalai Lama was influenced by Chairman Mao at one point, but that didn't make him a Socialist or Communist or Marxist.  As far as Martin Luther King goes, I always thought he was a Baptist.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 09:38 PM

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 12 April 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

sources say that FBI files released about him shows he has communist ties.
Ohh the FBI says he was a communist.
Well that's a whole mess of believable isn't it? After all J. Edgar wouldn't lie in order to advance his own ideology and beliefs would he?

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 12 April 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

alot of sources say that FBI files released about him shows he has communist ties.

I wouldn't trust that.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:37 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 12 April 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

So recently i have stumbled upon someone saying MLK was a communist. So i look it up on google and alot of sources say that FBI files released about him shows he has communist ties. Alot of people in his movment were communist too.

I was just wondering if this was true. So if anyone knows anything else please share.

So feel free to look this up and tell me what you think.

Yeah my mom was in some of those movements and I remember her having to burn documentation in fear of raids. She told me it was communist propoganda. But she didnt believe in anything evil. She believed in equal wealth distribution and I think that was what gave it a communist title but im really not sure.

There is always something good that initiates a party and gives it its title, it gets thwarted after it gets hijacked by dominating terrorists.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:42 PM

Yeah, look at this:

http://www.cpusa.org/

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:01 AM

the  diffrence  between  treson  and  sedition   is  all local ...   treson  is  supporting  a foreagn power  in  the  over  throw  of  your  own  goverment .
sedition  is  the  the  over  throw  of  your  own  goverment .

sedition  is  extremely  american ,  and  what  elections  are  all  about .

the  communism  of  the   1930's   was  the  spread  of  soveit  russia's  controll  of  other  countrys .

russia's  support  of  MLK  was  to  creat  upheaval   and civil  unrest  so  that  the  goverment  would  be  needed  to  remove  freedoms  and  take  fedaral  controll  over  local  issue .

it  is  very very clear  that  MLK  had  money  and  political support  that  came  from  russia .

it  is  not  so  clear  if  MLK  was  a russian  operative...  but  it  is  clear  that  MLK  would  have  taken  the  hand  of  the devil  to  reach  the  promise  land .

MLK  was  not  killed  because  of  his  civil rights  issues ...  he  was  killed  because  of  his  connection  to  the  jfk coup
with  in  the  democrate national committee party .  

it  is  not  likly  that  johnson  was  in  the  circle ,  but  he  was  not  unhappy that  jfk  was  killed ...   rfk  and  mlk  were   "cleaner"  hits  to  cover   up   the  jfk hit .

mlk  had  no  intrest  or  understanding  of communism ...  when  your  running  from  a tiger  ,  the  lion  and  the bear  do  not  have  your  attention .

i  beleive  that   MLK   was  a very  good  american  in  the practice  of  sedition ...  and  like  meny  american's  
he  ran  in  the  wrong company   and  was  killed  by  assocation.

as  for  socailism  and  communism ...   it  is  responcible  for  the  crash  of  the  ussr  ,  the  crash  of  imperial  england ,  and  the  crash  of  the euro ...   and  is  currently crashing  the  most  powerful  free  market  the  world has  ever  seen ...

you  are  looseing  your  freedoms  and  your  childrens  futures  to  communism...  your  a drunk  that  needs  one  more  drink .
and  with  luck ...  history  will  tell  of  the  grand success  of  the  communist  system  and  all  its  great  advances ...
how  it  single handed  ... paid  for  all  the  poor  to  raise  from  their  getto's ...  how  it  blazed  the  way  to  technology   and  great  social  justice ...  clearity  of  goverments  right to  show  the  people  the  way !

the  labor movement  is  a capitalist  advance....   you need  trade  unions  to  crush  corparation ...  
...or...
tell  me of one trade union in  the  communist  world ...  (poland?...   and  the  russians  nearly sent  in  tanks  to  crush  it ....  gigggles )

trade  unions  are  a product  of  the  capitalist system...   and   are  taken  over  by  goverment  in  socialist  states...  and  dismantled  under  communism ...


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:27 AM

....P > S> ...

i  do  need  to  point out  that  the  triangle  factory fire distroyed  the  garment industry  in  newyork , and  benifited  the  states   around  it  , and  led  the  way  for   organized  crime ....

had  the  socialist  not  been  involved  in  the  labor  movement...  organized  crime  would  not  have  been introduced...  and  the  face  of  the  labor  movement  would  be  totaly diffrent ...

the  problem  with  the  labor  movement  is  simple ...  it  is  a business  arm  of  organized  crime ...  untill  that  changes ,  it  is  hopelessly  violent  and  will  never  be  take seriously   as  a good  aspect  of  civilized  culture .

people  with  in  the  labor  movement  have  never  thought  out  the  concepts ...  and  for  that  reason ...  they  are  seen  as  greedy  whiners   who  are  violent  and reactionary ....little  more  than  organized  mob  violance ...

when  the  truth is...  they  are  the  moss  that  brings  down  the  old  oak  tree ,  so  that  small  trees  can  grow in  the  place  made   bleached  and  baren  in  the  shade  of  the  oak .

we  need  the  corparations   to  set  standards   and  savings  of  scale ....   we  need  unions  to  pull  down  genarational  business  that  get  in  the  way  of progress ...   kodac  film  would  never  let  a  cel phone  camar  see  the  open  market.

unions  do  not  belong  in  every  business  ...  but  microsoft  needs  a union ...  oil  companys  need  unions ...  and  bank  tellers  need  a union ....   what  really  needs  a union  is  media and  communications ...


unions  have  nothing  at  all  to  do  with  fairness...

unions  are  all about  crushing   monopolys ....    but  of  course  you  would  know  this  if  the  teachers  were  not  socialist ,  pumping   propaganda ...  rather  than  teaching ...


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:46 AM

i thought he was Baptist

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

View Postlightly, on 13 April 2013 - 12:46 AM, said:

i thought he was Baptist

i  have  heard ,  he  was  not  just  a baptist...   he  was  a preacherman .   and  God Almighty  what  a preacherman .
the  man  could  roar ...   frankly  speaking ,  he  is  a good  rolemodel  for  any  one  ...  some  of  the  things  he  said  were not  all  that  profound ...   but  give  the  time...  where  he  stood  when  he  said  it...    mlk  was  a  pretty  intresting  dude


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:38 AM

The constant mentions of adultery and communism often are attempts to downplay the vital changes that he and his movement brought to American society. The result of his life was a more just country that became a truly free nation, or, at the very least, one that was much closer to that ideal. We tend to judge people in the past by the standards of the present, and that tends to remove the context necessary to adequately assess historical figures. MLK, as well as Washington, are both unfairly judged due to the fact that we fail to recognize the world in which they lived. Jefferson and Washington had slaves, but that was the norm for that period of history (Washington freed his slaves in his will). It can't be denied that they birthed our country, the one that improved the lives of generations of people. MLK was in desperate straits, and he did what he had to do based on the fact that he was seen as a second-class citizen, with no voice in the official hierarchy, due to his race. It can't be denied that he improved the lives of millions of Americans.

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