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The History of Schizophrenia


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#361    notforgotten

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:51 PM

View Postscowl, on 04 May 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

Which is a small risk compared to living a completely non-functional life. A completely non functional life is characteristic of a soul in ruins through punishment. This is the state in which the human soul is in without God in the afterlife.

No. They don't say it is necessarily a life-long disease. They do say that their is no cure for the disease. As I've said at least three times now there exists "acute schizophrenia" which can appear and disappear. Many acute schizophrenics simply stop having schizophrenic episodes at some point in their lives. It is most likely that they stopped the sin that was causing the schizophrenia in the first place than anything else.

You clearly haven't spent any time studying this disease. If you're really interested in helping these people I would highly recommend that you read some books on the subject. There are several books full of case studies. Once you read them you'll understand why your theory is completely wrong. I needn't trouble myself with reading a bunch of books full of lies.

No, it is the medication. I've seen schizophrenics who were completely disassociated from reality become nearly lucid after being medicated for a couple of hours, therefore it has to be the medication that is causing this effect. By your theory the medication made the evil spirits "go away" so medication must be a good thing. The medication merely sedated the patient and put them to sleep which is helpful in alleviating the symptoms.

Can Jesus do that? No, it cannot. That is why you have no examples, no evidence, no clinical studies, and absolute nothing to back up your medieval fantasy world of demonic possession. Psychiatry has nothing to prove me wrong.

So screaming your theory over and over is a silly waste of time when simply statistical data completely disproves it. There is nothing in your repertoire of lies that can prove me wrong.

Did you just cure someone's schizophrenia? I didn't think so. Schizophrenia can be cured through the discontinuation of sin and prayer. Prayer may not be a necessary element, but discontinuation of the sin that is causing the schizophrenia is necessary. There is no other way.
The Christian schizophrenic can be delivered from their illness in which the devils partake in and be delivered from the devils and punishment for all of eternity through Christ [Jesus].

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:42 AM

View Postnotforgotten, on 04 May 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

My focus is on schizophrenia. Your generalizations are irrelevant.

Your focus is not on schizophrenia. Your focus is on promoting ancient superstitions about mental disease that civilized society rejected decades ago because they were scientifically tested and disproved.

There is not a single controlled case where religion has cured mental disease. You would rather let these poor people rot in your ignorance than allow them to take medications that improve their lives.

Now go ahead and quote some more Bible verses if that makes you feel better...


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:50 AM

View Postscowl, on 05 May 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Your focus is not on schizophrenia. Your focus is on promoting ancient superstitions about mental disease that civilized society rejected decades ago because they were scientifically tested and disproved. Nothing has been scientifically tested and disproved. You can show nothing supporting your claim.

There is not a single controlled case where religion has cured mental disease. There are testimonies. You would rather let these poor people rot in your ignorance than allow them to take medications that improve their lives. I'm not against medication, if it helps.
Schizophrenia is a key to the reality of the invisible spirit world. And I will not sway from my knowledge of the truth.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:06 AM

View Postnotforgotten, on 04 May 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

A completely non functional life is characteristic of a soul in ruins through punishment. This is the state in which the human soul is in without God in the afterlife.

If that were true, medication would not help. Instead it's a characteristic of schizophrenia, a mental disease which can and is treated by medication.

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They do say that their is no cure for the disease.

Yes, half of what you said is correct. The other half was another one of your lies.

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It is most likely that they stopped the sin that was causing the schizophrenia in the first place than anything else.

Why don't you hang out with a schizophrenic for a day? Then you could tell us what "sins" these awful people are committing that are making them sleep on the streets and eating out of garbage cans. From your vicious tone I believe you would enjoy seeing sinners suffering like that.

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I needn't trouble myself with reading a bunch of books full of lies.

Why should we or anyone else trouble ourselves reading your lies?

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The medication merely sedated the patient and put them to sleep which is helpful in alleviating the symptoms.

So you can alleviate the symptoms of schizophrenia with sedatives? That's good news! Tell us more! This sounds like a very promising thing to study!

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Psychiatry has nothing to prove me wrong.


There are decades of research, clinical studies, and thousands of highly educated scientists who have dedicated their lives to helping people with debilitating mental illness and finding ways for these people led functional if not normal lives. There were some of the most compassionate and understanding people I have ever met in my life. Before medicine took on the most difficult of all human diseases, these poor people were locked up like criminals and treated like animals. I bet you wish those days would return.

So who do you have to support your theory? No one.

What evidence do you have to support your theory? None.

Is there any reason to believe anything you say? No.

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There is nothing in your repertoire of lies that can prove me wrong.

And there's nothing in your statements that proves you right, therefore you are no better than a charlatan selling snake oil.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:08 AM

Wow.  I just read 25 pages of people bickering with an unmedicated schizophrenic.  Give it up, OP is mentally ill.  :/


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:11 AM

View Postphantasia, on 05 May 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Wow.  I just read 25 pages of people bickering with an unmedicated schizophrenic.  Give it up, OP is mentally ill.  :/
Considering your Avatar, you have very little room to talk.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:14 AM

You're making even less sense as time goes on.  Sad.  I'll pray for you.

Edited by phantasia, 05 May 2013 - 01:14 AM.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:25 AM

View Postnotforgotten, on 05 May 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Nothing has been scientifically tested and disproved. You can show nothing supporting your claim.

Yes I can, but you'll just say "lies lies lies lies!" because you cannot face the truth that your make-believe world in which evil spirits wander around and torment people is a complete fantasy.

If you want to understand treatment of schizophrenia in the real world, read these links:

http://en.wikipedia....l_antipsychotic
http://en.wikipedia...._antipsychotics
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Neuroleptics

In the reference section of each Wikipedia entry for these drugs, there are links to published clinical studies showing their effectiveness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorazine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolixin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilafon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellaril
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelazine
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Amisulpride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clozapine
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Iloperidone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulpiride
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Ziprasidone


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:30 AM

View Postscowl, on 05 May 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

If that were true, medication would not help. Instead it's a characteristic of schizophrenia, a mental disease which can and is treated by medication. I do believe that in some cases, there may be a biological factor in the form of a brain disorder causing the schizophrenic to experience the invisible spirit world and to be tormented by the devils. May medication someday help to correct this.

Why don't you hang out with a schizophrenic for a day? Then you could tell us what "sins" these awful people are committing that are making them sleep on the streets and eating out of garbage cans. Drugs have been known to have demonic influence and bring evil spirits into a persons life. I'm not saying that this is always the case. Isn't it true that certain drugs can cause a psychosis like schizophrenia?


So who do you have to support your theory? Look up schizophrenia and spiritual warfare on the internet.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:35 AM

View Postscowl, on 05 May 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

Yes I can, but you'll just say "lies lies lies lies!" because you cannot face the truth that your make-believe world in which evil spirits wander around and torment people is a complete fantasy.

If you want to understand treatment of schizophrenia in the real world, read these links:

http://en.wikipedia....l_antipsychotic
http://en.wikipedia...._antipsychotics
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Neuroleptics

In the reference section of each Wikipedia entry for these drugs, there are links to published clinical studies showing their effectiveness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorazine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolixin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilafon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellaril
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelazine
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Amisulpride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clozapine
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Iloperidone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulpiride
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Ziprasidone
None of this disproves that the schizophrenic is being persecuted by the devils. You're wasting your time if you think that you can find anything that will do that. Why? Because the truth can not be disproved!


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:44 AM

View Postnotforgotten, on 05 May 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

None of this disproves that the schizophrenic is being persecuted by the devils. You're wasting your time if you think that you can find anything that will do that. Why? Because the truth can not be disproved!

I don't think so. There is significant evidence that mental illness is a result of biological dysfunction, as opposed to a supernatural influence.

However, I do maintain that supernatural influence is indeed possible in some, rare, cases.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:49 AM

View Postpallidin, on 05 May 2013 - 01:44 AM, said:

I don't think so. There is significant evidence that mental illness is a result of biological dysfunction, as opposed to a supernatural influence.

However, I do maintain that supernatural influence is indeed possible in some, rare, cases.
The "evidence" in which you speak of is merely "implied" and not evidence at all.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:53 AM

View Postnotforgotten, on 05 May 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

None of this disproves that the schizophrenic is being persecuted by the devils. You're wasting your time if you think that you can find anything that will do that. Why? Because the truth can not be disproved!
Notice you haven't provided a shred of evidence? You're right, you can't disprove fiction.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:16 AM

View Postnotforgotten, on 05 May 2013 - 01:11 AM, said:

Considering your Avatar, you have very little room to talk.

Well, Phantasia's read through 25 pages of your narrow-minded, obsolete ramblings... but I guess her opinion doesn't matter seeing as her profile picture is an accurate depiction of her mental state. Now doctor please, tell me of what my profile picture says of me.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:27 AM

All this sort of thing demonstrates and even proves the harm that certain religions do with their demons and evil spirits and all the rest of that primitive stuff.





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