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Bali Bermuda Triangle Plane Crash April 2013

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#1    NatureBoff

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:43 AM

A plane just cashed hours ago at bali international airport. Wow, could this air crash just hours ago be due to the Bali Bermuda Triangle? Plane crashes in Bali with 108 on board. Here's a very similar incident from 1974 Pan Am Flight 812!

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"Then I got information that the plane had an accident or an overshoot," Eko said.
"We don't know the cause of the accident," he said...
Photographs shown on Indonesian television showed the plane's fuselage had split into two parts just behind its wings, and the plane half submerged in shallow water...
"The plane is Boeing 737-800 NG, Next Generation. It's a new one, a 2012 product," he said.
"It actually has sophisticated technology to anticipate accident. Let's see what the data says about that accident."

I predict an anomalous circa 2g acceleration which caused the aircraft to lose altitude and overshoot the runway.


Pan Am Flight 812 (1974)

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Pan Am Flight 812, operated by Pan American World Airways Boeing 707-321B N446PA (Clipper Climax), was a scheduled international flight from Hong Kong to Sydney, Australia with an intermediate stop at Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. On April 22, 1974 it crashed into rough mountainous terrain while preparing for a runway 09 approach to Denpasar after a 4 hour 20 minutes flight from Hong Kong. The location of the accident is about 42.5 nautical miles (78.7 km) northwest of Ngurah Rai International Airport.....
Examination on the disposition of the wreckage and inspection of the site indicated that no structural failure of the aircraft occurred before impact. It was determined that the premature execution of a right-hand turn to join the 263 degrees outbound track, which was based on the indication given by only one of the Radio Direction Finders while the other one was still in steady condition, is the most probable cause of the accident.

I predict that a dark matter body is embedded somewhere with a fluctuating cone of influence in the line of the International Airport.





Edited by RingFenceTheCity, 13 April 2013 - 10:56 AM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

If you draw enough triangles around the world one can blame one of them on everything that goes wrong.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

Planes crash all over the world.  Thankfully everyone survived.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 01:03 PM

Stretching tenuous connections about beyond safe structural limits, i'd say. The only precedent that points to a triangle of Doom is from 1974? :unsure2:

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

Besides,

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Lion Air is currently banned to operate in the European airspace. The ban was imposed by European Comission in consultation with member states' aviation authorities after Lion Air was found unsafe to conduct operations anywhere in European airspace.
And check the list of http://en.wikipedia....s_and_accidents .

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 13 April 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Stretching tenuous connections about beyond safe structural limits, i'd say. The only precedent that points to a triangle of Doom is from 1974? :unsure2:
There's more....I predicted the Bali Triangle in another thread: Adam Air Flight 574 :

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Alleged cockpit voice recording leakage
In early August 2008, a five-minute-38-second digital recording allegedly retrieved from the plane's cockpit voice recorder was widely circulated on the Internet and transcribed by the media.[115][116] The recording, which had been publicly distributed through chain e-mails, begins with what is believed by some to be a conversation between pilot Refi Agustian Widodo and copilot Yoga Susanto before the crash. Approximately two minutes before the end of the recording the autopilot disconnect horn sounded, followed approximately a minute later with "bank angle" warnings from the GPWS and the altitude alerter. Immediately thereafter, as the airplane began its final dive, the shotgun-like sounds of engine compressor surges and the overspeed "clacker" could be heard along with two background voices screaming in terror, and shouting out the name of God. Towards the end of the recording there is a dramatic increase in windshield noise and two loud bangs (the second larger than the first) consistent with structural failure of the airplane, followed 20 seconds later by an abrupt silence. Likely, when the pilots regained visual ground contact, they quickly pulled up, overloading the horizontal stabilizer downwards and a main wing spar upwards.[117] It was dismissed by the officials who said that it was not authentic and was not the original recording.


Bali plane crash-lands into sea:

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(i) Transport ministry official Herry Bhakti initially said the plane overshot the runway, but later clarified his comments to say it landed straight in the water. Officials said they were still determining exactly why it ditched.

(ii) According to the Aviation Safety Network, between 2004 and 2006, Lion Air was involved in six accidents, in which no one died, and which all involved planes overshooting the runway or missing it entirely.

(iii) Lion Air had a prior fatal crash with the loss of 25 lives in 2004 when an A/C overshot the runway landing at Surakarta. Reuters sources quoted a passenger as claiming the A/C was descending low over the water on approach and then dropped about 50 meters into the sea; this contradicts reports about skidding off the runway, and suggests rather that it made a "suboptimal approach".
The event occurred at around 3 PM local time; weather was reported as reasonably good with light rain.
The EU ban had reportedly been partially lifted
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Also: MV Senopati Nusantara


This recent article also adds to the legitimacy of the speculation This Vittorio Missoni's Disappearance Gives Rise To New Fears Of Bermuda Triangles Worldwide

(P.S. I predict a dark matter body 'rocking stone' located half way along the Philillipine Trench at around 6000m)

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Edited by RingFenceTheCity, 15 April 2013 - 12:28 PM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 02:53 PM

Here's an example of what I mean. See the map and the possible location of an underwater dark matter body 1.6g 'rocking stone'.

Ujung Pandang-Hasanudin Airport profile

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The aircraft bounced after landing heavily 985m past the runway 13 threshold, causing the nosegear to collapse. It was determined that the aircraft's sink rate at impact measures ca. 12,5 ft/second.

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The captain later reported that he had the runway in sight passing through 1,000 feet on descent, so disengaged the auto pilot at 400 feet. At about 50 feet the aircraft drifted to the right and the captain initiated corrective action to regain the centreline. The aircraft touched down to the left of the runway 25 centerline and then commenced to drift to the right. The captain reported that he immediately commenced corrective action by using thrust reverser, but the aircraft increasingly crabbed along the runway with the tail to the right of runway heading.
The aircraft stopped at 08:35 on the right side of runway 25L, 1,095 meters from the departure end of the runway on a heading of 152 degrees; 90 degrees from the runway 25L track. The main landing gear was off the sealed runway surface and the nose gear was on the runway.
The aircraft’s right landing light was found at 45 meters from the runway 25L threshold mark, and the right outer wing had scratches that indicated that it had contacted the runway surface.
The passengers and crew evacuated via the front left door escape slide. None of the occupants were injured.

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Flew into Lalaboy Mountain at 2300 feet while on an instrument approach to Ambon runway 04 in a heavy rainstorm.

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The aircraft was on a flight to Selaparang when it had to divert due to bad weather en route. It struck Mount Rinjani.

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Flight 708 departed Jakarta at 00:30 GMT (February 15) for a flight to Menado via Surabaya and Makassar. On the second leg of the flight bad weather at Makassar forced the crew to return to Surabaya. The flight continued the next day to Makassar and on to Menado. Weather at Menado was cloud base at 900 feet and 2km visibility. An approach to runway 18 was made, but after passing a hill 200 feet above runway elevation and 2720 feet short of the threshold, the pilot realised he was too high and left of the centreline. The nose was lowered and the aircraft banked right to intercept the glide path. The speed decreased below the 125 knots target threshold speed and the aircraft, still banked to the right, landed heavily 156 feet short of the runway threshold. The undercarriage collapsed and the aircraft skidded and caught fire.

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The cargo door warning light illuminated during the takeoff roll. Takeoff was aborted, but the aircraft could not be stopped on the runway. It overran into soft ground and came to rest some 200m past the runway end. Landing gear, tail and left wing were badly damaged.


Look at these incidents from Pontianak, Borneo, Supadio Airport:

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Accidents and incidents
On 19 January 1973, Douglas C-47B PK-EHC of Trans Nusantara Airways crashed on landing and was destroyed in the subsequent fire. All four people on board escaped.[4]
On 22 November 2004, Sri Hardono, the captain of Garuda Indonesia Flight 501, a Boeing 737-500 from Pontianak to Jakarta, was suddenly ill shortly after take-off. Hardono immediately asked permission to the air traffic control to return to the airport. Hardono died shortly after the emergency landing while still in the cockpit. Heart attack was the cause of illness and death of Hardono. Due to the incident, the airport was temporarily closed for 40 minutes. However, no one else was injured nor killed in this incident.[5]
On 2 November 2010 - Lion Air Flight 712, operated by Boeing 737-400 PK-LIQ overran the runway on landing, coming to rest on its belly. All 174 passengers and crew evacuated by the emergency chutes, with few injuries reported.[6]
On June 1, 2012, a Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737-400 skidded off the runway in heavy rain, nobody was hurt but the plane sustained heavy damage beyond repair.[7][8]
On 19 October 2012, a Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737-400 SJ182 skidded off the runway, all passengers and crew members survived
On 1 November 2012, Lion Air Boeing 737-400 PK-LIF skidded off the runway after landing from Jakarta, all passengers and crew members survived
On 31 December 2012, Lion Air Boeing 737-400 JT 718 skidded at Supadio Pontianak Airport, the plane landed in heavy rain,all passengers and crew survived
On 20 February 2013, Lion Air Boeing 737-400 PK-LIS tyre ruptured after landing in Pontianak, passengers feel the plane shake when the plane landing

•Aircraft involved in accidents at or near Pontianak-Supadio Airport

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A Boeing 737-400 passenger jet, registration PK-CJV, was damaged in a runway excursion accident at Pontianak, Indonesia. There were 163 passengers on board.
Sriwijaya Air flight SJ188 had departed from Jakarta-Soekarno-Hatta International Airport (CGK) on a regular flight to Pontianak (PNK). It was raining heavily at the time of the approach. After touchdown on runway 15 the airplane drifted left off the runway. The nose landing gear dug in soft ground and collapsed.

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The Islander collided with Mount Saran while descending in IMC.









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Edited by RingFenceTheCity, 15 April 2013 - 03:37 PM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:56 AM

Okay, now there's more mystery plane crashes in the same region having the same type of incident. At Least 88 Killed as Plane Crashes in Phuket Thailand (Sept 2007)

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The exact cause of the crash was unclear late Sunday, but witnesses said the plane slid off the runway soon after touching down in heavy wind and rain.
“The plane looked like it was going to land,” Nong Khawnoun, a survivor of the crash, told the Thai television station Channel 9. “It felt like the wheels almost touched the ground, but we started going up again. Then we slid and hit the dirt embankment.”

Here's another one, Bangkok Airways Flight 266

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Bangkok Airways Flight 266 was a scheduled domestic service to Samui Airport, Thailand, which overran the runway on landing and crashed into an old and unmanned control tower on 4 August 2009...
One pilot was reported to have been killed. The co-pilot, who was stuck in the aircraft for more than two hours, was among the last evacuated from the stricken plane. Serious injuries included four passengers — two Britons, one Italian and one Swiss suffered broken legs, while two other Britons suffered less severe injuries. The co-pilot also had leg injuries. A total of 41 people were injured.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauda_Air_Flight_004]Lauda Air Flight 004]

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*  May 26, 1991 – Twelve minutes after takeoff, Lauda Air Boeing 767 Flight 004, stalls in midair and crashes 70 miles northwest of Bangkok, Thailand. All 223 passengers and crew are killed.

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At 23:08, Welch and Thurner received a visual warning indicating that a possible system failure would cause the thrust reverser on the number 1 engine to deploy in flight. Having consulted the aircraft's Quick Reference Handbook, they determined that it was "just an advisory thing" and took no action.[3]

At 23:17, the thrust reverser on the number 1 engine deployed while the plane was over mountainous jungle terrain in the border area between Suphanburi and Uthai Thani provinces, Thailand. Thurner's last recorded words were, "Oh, reverser's deployed!".[4][5] The lift on the aircraft's left side was disrupted due to the reverser deployment, and the aircraft was placed in an immediate left diving turn. The aircraft went into a diving speed of .99 mach, which may have broken the sound barrier. The aircraft experienced a mid-air breakup on the way down.[6]

The 767 stalled in mid-air and disintegrated at 4,000 feet (1,200 meters). Most of the wreckage was scattered over a remote forest area roughly 1 km2 in size, at an elevation of 600 m above sea level, in what is now Phu Toei National Park, Suphanburi. The wreckage site is about three nautical miles north northeast of Phu Toey, Huay Kamin, Dan Chang District, Suphan Buri Province.,[7] about 100 miles (160 km) northwest of Bangkok, close to the Burma-Thailand border.[1][8]

None of the 223 passengers and crew aboard the airliner survived. Rescuers found the body of Welch still in the pilot's seat.[9] After the accident, scavengers collected electronics and jewellery.[10]






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Edited by RingFenceTheCity, 19 April 2013 - 10:14 AM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:33 AM

This one from Cambodia spounds suspicious and Bermuda Triangle-like:

  • 3 September 1997: Vietnam Airlines Flight 815, operated by a Tupolev Tu-134 crashed on approach to Pochentong Airport, killing 65 of the 66 passengers on board. The aircraft was entirely destroyed. The aircraft was flying from Ho Chi Minh City to Phnom Penh.[15] The Tupolev was approaching the Phnom Penh airport runway in heavy rain from 2,000 meters; at this point the control tower ordered the pilot to attempt an approach from the west due to a wind pick-up. The crew then lost communication with the tower, and three minutes later the aircraft collided at low level with trees, damaging the left wing. The aircraft then slid 200 yards into a dry rice paddy before exploding. Pilot error was later identified as the cause of the crash; the pilot continued his landing descent from an altitude of 2,000 meters to 30 meters even though the runway was not in sight, and ignored pleas from his first officer and flight engineer to turn back. When the aircraft hit the trees, the pilot finally realized the runway was not in sight and tried to abort the approach; the flight engineer pushed for full power, but the aircraft lost control and veered left; the right engine then stalled, making it impossible to gain lift.[16]   [/quote]


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:41 AM

Bermuda Triangle is in North America.  I never heard of the "Bali Triangle".  What area does it  cover?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:12 AM

Don't know why is this in the news part?


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:38 PM

There's so many mystery plane crashes, that another Triangle identification in S.E. Asia is long overdue imo.

China Airlines Flight 611

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About 25 minutes after takeoff,[5] the aircraft disappeared from radar screens, suggesting it had experienced an in-flight breakup at FL350 (approximately 35,000 feet or 7 miles) near the Penghu Islands in the Taiwan Strait (co-ordinates 23.98°N, 119.67°E).

China Airlines Flight 676

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After the jet was cleared to land at runway 05L, the autopilot was disengaged, and the pilots then attempted a manual go-around. The jet slowed down, pitched up by 40 degrees, rose 1,000 feet (300 m), stalled, and crashed into a residential neighborhood, bursting into flames. All 196 people on board were killed (including the president of Taiwan's central bank, Sheu Yuan-dong, his wife, Huang Mian-mei, and three central bank officials[1]), along with six people on the ground. Hsu Lu, the manager of the Voice of Taipei radio station, said that one boy was pulled alive from the wreckage and later died.[1]
The cockpit voice recording was leaked on the Internet, but has been removed as it is property of the Taiwanese government.

Take a look at this Voice recorder details

Edited by RingFenceTheCity, 19 April 2013 - 02:45 PM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:52 AM

BBC tv Bill Bailey pays tribute to Wallace, and I can also add that Wallace's turbulent crossing from Bali to Lombok is in part due to the power of the 1.6g dark matter body creating underwater erosion of the channel. The Tongue of the Ocean near Florida was also likely made from the power of the resident dark matter body, whose area of effect is known as the Bermuda Triangle. See attached.

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Edited by RingFenceTheCity, 22 April 2013 - 11:12 AM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:32 AM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 19 April 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

Don't know why is this in the news part?

ring has been posting about this in the modern mysteries thread. i don't know why he's started a new thread here.

Doesn't change the fact that Lion Air has a dodgy safety record. 6 crashes since 2002 and not allowed to fly into EU countries. ring says that ban has been partially lifted. So, can they circle EU countries then they have to fly away?


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostAntilles, on 22 April 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

ring has been posting about this in the modern mysteries thread. i don't know why he's started a new thread here.

Doesn't change the fact that Lion Air has a dodgy safety record. 6 crashes since 2002 and not allowed to fly into EU countries. ring says that ban has been partially lifted. So, can they circle EU countries then they have to fly away?
P.S. I don't like the nickname 'ring'. I should have thought of that earlier. Ringfence sounds better.

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