May I presume you also not approve of Christian communion, saying of grace, or of men dressed in variations of late Roman Empire court dress doing some sort of magic ceremony
Oh I "approve" of pagan type worship. It is a direct form of communion with the cosmic consciousness. I have long and profitable conversations with trees and other forms of nature. It is not their consciousness with which I converse but with the universal or cosmic consciousness which permeates all life . So where some, as an example, might sense tree dryads, I connect directly to the cosmic consciousness via the tree, rather than perceive a tree occupied by its own spirit or dryad.
I am just saying that in a post modern world the total mindset required to really have faith in this form of worship is extremely difficult to create, because scientific knowledge gets in the road of it. Science doesnt really conflict with a basic christian jewish or muslim type belief in god but especailly if you are a non creationist, but it does directly conflict with the older pagan beliefs.
I count pagan as those early earth type beliefs from the first babylonian and other types, through to much later celtic religious forms. Shamanism continued in russia up until last century, with a direct link to earlier practices.
I base my knowledge and understanding of pagan practices on historical knowledge rather than modern forms, of not just the practices but the very integral belief sets which caused the practices.
Early bablonian writings and quite modern australian aboriginal lore both illustrate humans where the physcial and metaphysical worlds are completely connected, and nothing physical happens without a spiritual or metaphysicla counter part to it.
No early human (pagan woud enter a forest, cross a stream, or hunt an animal, with out specific care thought and prepartion to accomodate the spiritual elemants found in all those things. Food, beer, even the mud bricks of ancient sumeria were held to be an integral part of a spiritual world, not just, as modern humans see them, a purely physical one. Pagans sensed/knew the self awareness within themselves, and on the basis of that, attributed a similar sense of self awareness and purpose to EVERYTHING in their world.
Edited by Mr Walker, 21 April 2013 - 12:39 PM.