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O.D.D. obsessive debunking disorder


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#1    OverSword

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 04:56 PM

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From the artice:

The reality is that apart from their own kind—other self-proclaimed non-'idiots'—most people find such arrogant and obnoxious debunkers and hardcore skeptics to be strangely angry and boorish, and often confrontational to the point of hysterical. So many of them seem to lack basic social and behavioural skills when 'debating' with their 'kook' of choice. Their absolutism can be staggering at times. Yet, despite all this, they have somehow come to consider themselves 'cool' and even 'sexy' within the last decade. This is simply a lack of critical thinking on their behalf; a distorted worldview where only they are right and everyone else is an idiot.

However, when you strip down their whole mandate into its constituent parts, one soon finds that most of these 'scientifically' minded crusaders have no actual accredited scientific background, and the entire thrust of their endeavours remains nothing less than unconditional servitude and unquestioned devotion to authority figures and the status quo. They seek entrenched orthodoxy, not exploration and wonder. They see an open-minded individual as being akin to a brain being infected with a disease, or the mark of a witch. They act as if Creationists are a real danger to human survival, as if the US Bible Belt has extended beyond its absurd boundaries. Creationists are about as much danger to the advances made by scientists in the last two hundred years as Graneda was to Ronald Reagan back in the early 1980s.


http://thomassheridanarts.com/articles.php?article_id=82

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:22 PM

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Brilliant article.


Something that annoys me about of some Skeptics and hardcore debunkers. The regurgitate what "officals" tell them. No thinking of their own whatsoever.

If there is a conspiracy theory that involves the "officials" then they are obviously going to lbe lying if the conspiracy is actually true, which means the debunker/skeptic just constantly regurgitates what they said. I find it funny really. Einstien would be very unhappy. lol

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:23 PM

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We probably shouldn't name names, should we? :whistle:

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:31 PM

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Does this describe any of our fellow posters?"


Without naming names, it describes quite a few of our "fellow posters"   :innocent: :whistle:

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:32 PM

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the funny thing is that everyone is going to say everyone else is like that but themself :P lol

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

Couldn't read the whole thing with that stupid white text on black background crap.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:45 PM

View PostOverSword, on 15 April 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

From the artice:

The reality is that apart from their own kind—other self-proclaimed non-'idiots'—most people find such arrogant and obnoxious debunkers and hardcore skeptics to be strangely angry and boorish, and often confrontational to the point of hysterical. So many of them seem to lack basic social and behavioural skills when 'debating' with their 'kook' of choice. Their absolutism can be staggering at times. Yet, despite all this, they have somehow come to consider themselves 'cool' and even 'sexy' within the last decade. This is simply a lack of critical thinking on their behalf; a distorted worldview where only they are right and everyone else is an idiot.

However, when you strip down their whole mandate into its constituent parts, one soon finds that most of these 'scientifically' minded crusaders have no actual accredited scientific background, and the entire thrust of their endeavours remains nothing less than unconditional servitude and unquestioned devotion to authority figures and the status quo. They seek entrenched orthodoxy, not exploration and wonder. They see an open-minded individual as being akin to a brain being infected with a disease, or the mark of a witch. They act as if Creationists are a real danger to human survival, as if the US Bible Belt has extended beyond its absurd boundaries. Creationists are about as much danger to the advances made by scientists in the last two hundred years as Graneda was to Ronald Reagan back in the early 1980s.


http://thomassheridanarts.com/articles.php?article_id=82

Yeah this should be pinned...

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

i can't help thinking some aspects of that do rather seem to describe some of the more obssessive Atheists of the Dawkins persuasion who never miss an opportunity to point out to everyone how much more Rational they are than all the superstitious gullible fools ..

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 15 April 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

the funny thing is that everyone is going to say everyone else is like that but themself :P lol
I have to agree they only think the other person is wrong but not themselves.  Can never win with these types because they are always right.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:59 PM

:)

This is gonna be fun. They haven't seen this thread yet because they're too busy not-being-wrong in other ones.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:13 PM

I like the acronym, ODD.  The claim to 'debunking' is accepted by those folks as being absolutely true, no questions asked.  It seems that regarding 911, Popular Mechanics seems to have coined the phrase.

No matter how inaccurate any given explanation might be, if the term 'debunked' is used, it becomes gospel.  In the end, 'debunking' is really just part of the coverup.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:14 PM

Just wait until the not being wrong crowd shows up.  It is going to be fun.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:27 PM

To be fair there are members to the other side this also applies to.  Not everything is a conspiracy.  I admit that sometimes I can be put into that paradigm.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:28 PM

Ha, this is a funny one; should I link in the numerous links on the web concerning the deficits in rationality and psychological biases of many conspiracy theorists?  Gotta love  that the 'criticisms' of 'debunkers' are largely of an unevidenced psychological nature; how does Thomas Sheridan, whoever he is, know that debunkers think of themselves as 'cool' and 'sexy', and how 'most people' view them?  

I guess I might try and do a lot of irrelevant hand waving of this nature also if I needed to distract from the lack of evidence and poor argumentation ('but you haven't proved that it couldn't happen!', 'but it's possible!') used to vainly support the usual CTs.  On the other hand, quoting a psychological analysis performed by an artist is entirely consistent with lots of CTs' approach to argumentation, evidence, and expertise.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:31 PM

Hmmmm.. Liquid Gardens.  I wonder which side he fits into?  :lol:





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