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#61    danielost

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:59 AM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 17 April 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:


Really!!!

Columbus was funded by the Spanish monarchy (after the Italian government refused to fund him).
Much of the Portuguese voyages of exploration were under the patronage of the kings of that country.
James Cook was a Royal Navy captain.
The voyage that lead Charles Darwin to write "On the Origin of Species" was on boar HMS Beagle, a Royal Navy vessel.
Lewis and Clark were part of the Corps of Discovery, which was part of the US Army.
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The spanish gave him three coastel ships due to be scraped.
Portugel was started so they could do those voyages.
If you watched the movie, darwin was on a warship at a time of war.  They stopped to get food and water.
Your correct about lewis and clark.  But you forget the fur trappers before them at least to the rockies.  And you forget the spanish missinaries for the rest of the usa.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:17 AM

I will go to mar's sounds like a cool trip


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:34 AM

Seeder your coming across as if they haven't thought about all this stuff.  I doubt anyone in their right mind would cast a mission like this, OR fund it like a lot of people are doing.  If they were not thinking about all the variables.  I doubt it was just like 'oh lets go to mars'.  It's obviously been planned and is still being planned very thoroughly.


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:51 AM

View Postkrypter3, on 19 April 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

Seeder your coming across as if they haven't thought about all this stuff.  I doubt anyone in their right mind would cast a mission like this, OR fund it like a lot of people are doing.  If they were not thinking about all the variables.  I doubt it was just like 'oh lets go to mars'.  It's obviously been planned and is still being planned very thoroughly.

Maybe, Im just quite aware of the pitfalls, and think its a bit of a crazy idea... be good if they can overcome all the challenges - tho the fact remains, the participants will have a poor life up there....

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:24 AM

I wouldn't go on a one way trip to Mars. However, I do have some people in mind that I would love to send there.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:07 AM

View Postseeder, on 18 April 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Now it may appear Im putting a dampener on this mission idea. Im not, and Im interested to see how it works out.....its just that I base my views as much as possible on the facts of the matter. So...assuming then the mission is on.... where do the live when they arrive? if they transport liveable pods - the size of the ship will have to be extremely big, which will push the price up massively.

So lets conquer that issue first?  An excerpt from wiki

"Conditions for human habitation"

Based on scientific evidence, collected by satellites and the NASA Rovers, conditions are not “hospitable” to humans or life as we know it. Antarctica has temperatures that are comparable, though Mars is colder, but other environmental circumstances are very unlike those of Earth, in fact would be deadly to all life as we know it. These include greatly reduced air pressure, an atmosphere that’s 95% carbon dioxide, almost no oxygen (compared to Earth’s 21% oxygen and almost no carbon dioxide), reduced gravity, and no liquid water (although amounts of frozen water have been detected). Despite this, some consider Mars to be “habitable,” but which would require that life support measures be taken. People would need to live in artificial environments. Man might one day step foot on Mars and scout around, but it’s unknown if man could ever adapt to living on Mars as a permanent resident.

more great info:

http://en.wikipedia....ization_of_Mars

So its usual temp is the same as and colder than Antarctica... If you have to live in a pod for the rest of your life, how much fun is that?



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Well, at a rough guess, they'd probably live indoors. Surely no one was expecting that anyone would think that they'd be able to walk around willy-nilly, did they?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:29 AM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 17 April 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Really!!!

Columbus was funded by the Spanish monarchy (after the Italian government refused to fund him).
Much of the Portuguese voyages of exploration were under the patronage of the kings of that country.
James Cook was a Royal Navy captain.
The voyage that lead Charles Darwin to write "On the Origin of Species" was on boar HMS Beagle, a Royal Navy vessel.
Lewis and Clark were part of the Corps of Discovery, which was part of the US Army.
That may well have been true; but that's never going to happen again, is it? Not least because the world now is not ruled by Monarchs who were able to take the long view, but by Politicians, who can never look further than the next election, and so never have the incentive or see any point in doing anything that would not get them Votes, or have any prospect of getting them re-elected. There'd really be no point in a modern Politcian sponsoring any great project of exploration, since there'd be someone else in office by the time any exciting revelations came back. Nothing will ever get done now that the world is ruled by "elected" Leaders. So therefore, since a One World Government that doesn't have to worry about Votes seems to be unpopular with some around here, I think the only way to make any progress is to take it out of the hands of Governments altogether , at least in the "Democratic" Western World, and let entrenepreneurs have a go. Or perhaps Russia might be able to take things forward, but any way I think America seems to have more or less given up any thoughts of being daring or adventurous and boldy Going anywhere any more.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:53 PM

As NASA would explain,we need someone that will volunteer &  agree to go forth & create a new world on Mars.Anyone in their right mind that would agree to that might just as well be declared insane or not right!Firstly,anyone that would subject themselves to a one way trip to hell would have to be out of their mind in the fact that it is a one way trip.No guarantees! No promises.Also there would be a feeling that you might die there on Mars!I personally would NOT want to go there!Hostile Temperatures,cold,fighting for life with the only advantage of being informed by NASA if things go wrong.****! Get lost! No way would I be the next idiot that gives up life on Earth for a barren planet that lost everything!!
Just remember.When the **** hits the fan,stand up for your rights!!

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

View PostGirlfromOz, on 19 April 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

As NASA would explain,we need someone that will volunteer &  agree to go forth & create a new world on Mars.Anyone in their right mind that would agree to that might just as well be declared insane or not right!Firstly,anyone that would subject themselves to a one way trip to hell would have to be out of their mind in the fact that it is a one way trip.No guarantees! No promises.Also there would be a feeling that you might die there on Mars!I personally would NOT want to go there!Hostile Temperatures,cold,fighting for life with the only advantage of being informed by NASA if things go wrong.****! Get lost! No way would I be the next idiot that gives up life on Earth for a barren planet that lost everything!!
Just remember.When the **** hits the fan,stand up for your rights!!
i don't think anyone is thinking of forcing you to do so, so I don't think you need worry, too much.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostGirlfromOz, on 19 April 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

As NASA would explain,we need someone that will volunteer &  agree to go forth & create a new world on Mars.Anyone in their right mind that would agree to that might just as well be declared insane or not right!Firstly,anyone that would subject themselves to a one way trip to hell would have to be out of their mind in the fact that it is a one way trip.No guarantees! No promises.Also there would be a feeling that you might die there on Mars!I personally would NOT want to go there!Hostile Temperatures,cold,fighting for life with the only advantage of being informed by NASA if things go wrong.****! Get lost! No way would I be the next idiot that gives up life on Earth for a barren planet that lost everything!!
Just remember.When the **** hits the fan,stand up for your rights!!

Plus I should point out, it has nothing to do with NASA. its a Mars One venture

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:38 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 19 April 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

Well, at a rough guess, they'd probably live indoors. Surely no one was expecting that anyone would think that they'd be able to walk around willy-nilly, did they?


In fairness, that was posted before I found the vid of them sending the pods up first! I should imagine they will take walks, I mean thats what exploration is about isnt it?  How far - is a factor of course, probably only as far as half their oxygen lasts. I still cant help but feel its a grim mission and existence tho..

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

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I still cant help but feel its a grim mission and existence tho..

You are not going so no need to worry about it. ;)


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:52 PM

I am assuming that they will send both males and females on these missions... Have they made plans for the inevitable births that will come (sooner than they plan for it I am sure)?...

Lots of medical issues... without a skilled physician, the most minor injuries or ailments could easily become lethal...

Plus anyone who goes - particularly the first group of 4 - had better be the type of people that like living in cramped, confined quarters... First is the 7 month journey, in micro-gravity, then moving into the 'hampster habitat' like quarters, wher ethey will stay for the rest of their lives...

Sure hope they like each other - A LOT!


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

View PostTaun, on 19 April 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

I am assuming that they will send both males and females on these missions... Have they made plans for the inevitable births that will come (sooner than they plan for it I am sure)?...

Lots of medical issues... without a skilled physician, the most minor injuries or ailments could easily become lethal...

Plus anyone who goes - particularly the first group of 4 - had better be the type of people that like living in cramped, confined quarters... First is the 7 month journey, in micro-gravity, then moving into the 'hampster habitat' like quarters, wher ethey will stay for the rest of their lives...

Sure hope they like each other - A LOT!

I was actually reading some pages about this story a few days ago, apparently less gravity makes childbirth difficult if not impossible. Will see if I can find it again....

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:15 PM

OK well I didnt find the link I mentioned, but found similar info, tho sadly not as detailed as the one I initially read

"Conceiving a child in the final frontier might be downright dangerous".

"There are many risks to conception in low or microgravity, such as ectopic pregnancy," Woodmansee said. "And, without the protection of the Earth's atmosphere, the higher radiation levels raise the probability of birth defects."

Microgravity does strange things to the body. From bone density loss to odd fluid distribution, the human body was not built to live in low-gravity conditions. Astronauts combat these less-than-ideal conditions through exercise and other methods, but scientists are not sure how they will affect a mother and child.

"The thing is, a baby created and born in space could be perfectly fine," Woodmansee said. "We just don’t know enough about the subject. We've evolved here on the Earth, so moving to outer space is moving evolution in a different direction."

Now, sex on the way maybe eh?


"Sex is very difficult in zero gravity, apparently, because you have no traction and you keep bumping against the walls," biologist Athena Andreadis of the University of Massachusetts Medical School told SPACE.com in 2011. "Think about it: you have no friction, you have no resistance"

http://www.space.com...rs-mission.html


Be fun to watch the others try it,  if nothing else!!  :w00t: :w00t:

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