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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:06 PM

Smirinov, did you read the link I posted for you? If not I suggest that you do,... I would like you to coment on Alexs Colliers "own words" in the beginning of the page.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostHazzard, on 13 May 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

The Delusional Writing of the Imaginary “Alex Collier” http://theyfly.com/a...ex Collier.html
Seems the Michael Horn team can't be trusted, http://www.ufohypoth...com/collier.htm

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As many of you are aware, I am being bitterly attacked from the Billy Meier/FIGU camp, especially by their U.S. publicist, Michael Horn. I am being addressed as a liar and a fraud. Apparently, because I changed my name and at most times in my life during on going contacts, I chose to not share this reality with people who were acquaintances. Why would I? You also need to know that I have addressed this issue publicly in earlier lectures years ago. But maybe it’s necessary to deal with it for the last time.

In the early 90's when I came forward, the talks were very small. More like living room chats, just a hand full of people. I stopped speaking in 2002. After being addressed in front of my mailbox by three well dressed men that were part of a "Program", I was told to "Shut the f*#@ up". I was then told that friends were going to be hurt if I did not shut up. The names were given to me. They were not kidding and it wasn't a joke. They were going to kill friends and family members.

Fast forward the internet. I had no idea that the information would go where it has. In 1990 when Morenay had asked me to speak and share "some of my experiences" I reluctantly said yes. I spoke to my Dad regarding this. My dad had an experience of my contacts when we lived in upper state NY. We spoke of it that morning and as my Dad was a strong catholic, his questions were very direct.  I felt that if I was going to speak he needed to know. Dad was afraid of what would not only happen to me but our family. My brothers and sisters, and himself by government and religious harassment, etc.... We spoke about using another name to share the information in some way to protect my family.

Your provided link describing this "violent attacking" Michael Horn mentioned about his socalled "critics" of Collier's mention of 22 different extraterrestrial genes in human DNA, but Alex Collier's mention of these 22 different Extraterrestrial genes in human DNA seems to be backed up by this, http://www.agoracosm...1/26/01340.html

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Scientists confirm Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

Collaborative research from a gathering of exo-scientists postulate that there are genes from over 20 extraterrestrials civilizations in Human DNA. These exo-scientists have continued the work of Nobel Prize winner Dr. Frances Crick, and other scholars in this area.
Your provided link also shows that Mr. Horn is "attacking" Collier's mention of predictions, but did Michael Horn mention anything about the prediction of 911? I don't see anywhere Mr. Horn mentioning about the 911 prediction. All i see is that Mr. Horn is trying to use similar dirty tactics as Disinfo agents use and Neo-Nazis use, how pathetic.

Let me remind you that i on Page 11 did mention that Collier said in that Moon & Mars Lecture 1996 >>According to the Andromedans, now folks, i just want you to keep an open mind, you know, i'm not asking you to believe this, i'm sharing informations with you, if you choose not to believe it hey that's fine, i ask you to exercise your free will, and if this get too much for you and you don't want to listen i already checked none of these chairs have seat belts, you can absolutely leave and i will not be offended, i don't like doing this anyway, i would much rather stay home and raise my family, okay, but i made a promise, and you know we want tho have a family you know i have a piece of a puzzle, and if don't do anything about it, i'm just as guilty as the NSA Astronauts and the Russian Astronauts have been on Mars and the Moon since 1958.<<

'Hazzard', it's obvious you're wasting you're precious time and energy in your attempt to discredit Alex Collier, you're even trying to ignore his mention about Moranae's prediction of 911. Don't you see how pathetic your action is?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:59 PM

yes, Hazzard, can't you see how futile it is trying to discredit Alex Collier? Look how accurate he;s been.]

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Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.
Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit.
During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt.
They said that somewhere around the beginning of December 2013, third density will implode. It will implode.
According to the Andromedans, our physicality is the sum total of 22 different races that have come down here, spend the "weekend", messed with us and then took off and went home.

Your true (original) blood color was green, like your chlorophyll. Some, we have discovered, even had (blood of a) gold tint.
The genetic changes were the result of radiation damage. Your race (skin color) went from green, to red (Native Americans, Egyptians and Mayans), to yellow (Asians), to black (Afro-Americans and Africans), and then to white.

hey will start with a magnetic pole shift, which could happen anytime between now and the year 2001.
They have told all of the negative extraterrestrials in and on our planet, and the moon, to be out of here no later than August 12, 2003. I have also been told that there is a very high probability that we could wake up some morning in that area of time and our moon will not be there.

Whyever would anyone want to discredit him?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostSmirnov, on 13 May 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:


Your provided link also shows that Mr. Horn is "attacking" Collier's mention of predictions, but did Michael Horn mention anything about the prediction of 911? I don't see anywhere Mr. Horn mentioning about the 911 prediction. All i see is that Mr. Horn is trying to use similar dirty tactics as Disinfo agents use and Neo-Nazis use, how pathetic.

'Hazzard', it's obvious you're wasting you're precious time and energy in your attempt to discredit Alex Collier, you're even trying to ignore his mention about Moranae's prediction of 911. Don't you see how pathetic your action is?
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What did he say about Moranae's prediction of 911, and what did Moranae say, and who was Moraneaea?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:08 PM

I don't recall New York being turned to ash.  I remember a major event in which a handful of buildings in New York were destroyed but the city, as far as I'm aware, was and is 99.999% intact and was never turned into ash.

What a crappy prediction.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:39 PM

View PostSmirnov, on 13 May 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

'Hazzard', it's obvious you're wasting you're precious time and energy in your attempt to discredit Alex Collier, you're even trying to ignore his mention about Moranae's prediction of 911. Don't you see how pathetic your action is?

The only thing "pathetic" about all this is the fact that ANYONE can believe such drivel,... Look at the list of claims for Gods sake. I mean, even Michael Horn (slinger of Billy Meiers crap) can see that. What you need to do is to show me where Alex Collier has ever been proven right.

Until you do, all you have here is another fantasy prone wacko selling his nonsense to the gullible.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostArchimedes, on 13 May 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

I don't recall New York being turned to ash.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostHazzard, on 13 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

The only thing "pathetic" about all this is the fact that ANYONE can believe such drivel,...
You're wasting your time and energy with your pathetic crap.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:23 PM

View PostSmirnov, on 13 May 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

You're wasting your time and energy with your pathetic crap.
there, hazzard, how can you possibly argue with quick-witted repartee like that.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:25 PM

View PostSmirnov, on 13 May 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:


Anyway, assuming that all this refers to this Moranae character's prediction about 9/11 that you were talking about, who was Mariniae and what exactly was his "prediction"? Was it like Nostradamus, and something that could be taken to refer to anything that anyone wanted it to?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostSmirnov, on 13 May 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

You're wasting your time and energy with your pathetic crap.

You keep saying that,... but what you need to do (if you want to be taken seriously) is show me where this guy is right.  


Here is the list again,...




I have information regarding mission children. If nothing else should make you angry, it should be that hundreds of thousands of children each year are vanishing from our planet.
The moon is an artificial satellite brought here from Ursa Minor. It's hollow and operational, and it can pull out of here any time. Human beings from Earth have been there for at least 45 years. It started with the Germans, but primarily it was the Americans and the Russians. The Germans moved on to Mars.
We are told that it is 4,200 miles in diameter. Morenae says that is an absolute lie, that it is 11,421 miles in diameter, and that our people know about this. (MH: WRONG!)
When the extraterrestrials get here, sometime next year (1997) or the year after, when they physically land and they start showing themselves,
This bridge is 21 miles long. You will see this same structure on Venus.
See these structures. Ladies and gentlemen, this is where the New World Order is on the moon. This complex has 35,000 human beings from Earth in it, right now. These are living compounds. The Andromedans are very clear about this, because they want you to wake up.
The monument, since the moon came from Ursa Minor, is Orion in origin. Now, our moon used to share an orbit with Phobos. Both of them are artificial satellites.
Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.
Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit.
During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt.
They said that somewhere around the beginning of December 2013, third density will implode. It will implode.
According to the Andromedans, our physicality is the sum total of 22 different races that have come down here, spend the "weekend", messed with us and then took off and went home.
Blue bloods: Their blood is copper-based. That's ET. OK?
As most of you know, the "AIDS" virus was created.
There is life as we speak on Uranus, right now. There's life. Plant life and animal life.
Apparently we all had copper-based blood systems at one time. All of our physiology was based on copper. We were all "blue-bloods". We were all royalty.
Even earth was moved from its orbit - twice. There is a possibility that they want to do it again. The "flood of Noah" was a result of the moving of earth from its original orbit. That is was caused it. We are talking about huge ships that can move planets. They have this technology.
This aggression occurred against those on your worlds that included not only you Terrans, but also those called Niburu.
Nibiru won, but only a short battle, before they and other outposts were forced to leave (the solar system) because of genetic damage. Your original races were green-skinned. This we know, because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood type (refers to the composite of human genetics which comprise genetic codes from 22 humanoid species).
Your system contained three suns at that time. Only two remain (one is on the opposite side of the visible sun, and rotates in such a way that it is hidden from view from the perspective of the Earth).
Your true (original) blood color was green, like your chlorophyll. Some, we have discovered, even had (blood of a) gold tint.
The genetic changes were the result of radiation damage. Your race (skin color) went from green, to red (Native Americans, Egyptians and Mayans), to yellow (Asians), to black (Afro-Americans and Africans), and then to white.
The red is the closest to the original form among you. Your physicality had a natural defense to positive and negative frequencies (due to the) copper mineral in your blood (resistance to electromagnetic variation). This lack (now) of copper in your blood has caused a partial loss of brain capacity and nervous system (capacity). Remember (that) your DNA contains cellular memory. It is possible to unlock this memory with (the) use of minerals such as copper. Your blood systems (are) adapted (now) to iron, because of copper depletion due to (ambient) radiation. We will share more, but we must return now.
Some of the missing children on this planet have not only been taken by the Greys, by Orion, but also by the Pleaidians. Now, apparently in the systems in Aldebaran, there are human Terran colonies. The Pleaidians have taken human children from here.
What's happening is that third density is beginning to implode because as the frequency of third density matter starts to rise, those that choose to evolve will pass out of here.
There are other races, the Pleaidians for example, that in 982 years will start to show genetic breakdown, because of so much interbreeding.
Whatever we do here on third density moving into fifth density, we will literally changes all the dimensions above us in a domino effect all the way up,
The name "Gabriel" was the name of another fleet of craft, and so on.
They will start with a magnetic pole shift, which could happen anytime between now and the year 2001.
They have told all of the negative extraterrestrials in and on our planet, and the moon, to be out of here no later than August 12, 2003. I have also been told that there is a very high probability that we could wake up some morning in that area of time and our moon will not be there.
That is because the moon is the first stage of defense, and that they will literally hit it with a tractor beam and pull it out of orbit if they are going to do battle.
I am told that most of the dinosaurs were brought here, and to Mars, where they came first. Our current human form was crafted on Mars, where the primate and human genes were combined, and then brought to earth to work as slaves in the mines.
They enjoy human flesh, and human children best, for two reasons. The first is that children don't have the accumulation of pollutants in their bodies that adults do, and when children are put into a state of fear, their energy and field and andrenylin just explodes. The reptilians get a "rush" from this stuff.
And folks, there are bases on the moon that have been built by the United States, Russia and the British, using British money. I suggest you keep an eye on Prince Charles.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:32 PM

Why didn't I hear about "Alex Collier" before? He makes Richard Hoagland look very modest in comparison.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:34 PM

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:54 PM

There seems to be no limit at all to the absurdities some people will believe.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:54 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 13 May 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

What did he say about Moranae's prediction of 911, and what did Moranae say, and who was Moraneaea?
Moranae is Collier's Andromedan contact, as Collier says he have a telepathic contact with

From around 1:38:00 into the above Moon & Mars Lecture 1996, Alex Collier mentioned that "Moranae" 'told' him that by the year of 2000 New York city will turn into "Ash", that's what he said about New York city, and he said that back in 1996, about 5 years before 911 took place... It will be "sacrificed", he said... It's going to be "sacrificed". "The Powers that be" already made that decision, it will be "Sacrificed", an "offering", the souls that lives there their energy is going to be an "offering". >>An act of terrorism will turn it to "Ash"<<, that's what he said about New York city, keep in mind he said this back in 1996. He said it would happen in 2000 all right, only 1 year missing as 911 took place in 2001.
As you can see, Moranae predicted 911, even if Alex said 2000 by mistake.

http://www.bibliotec...omedacom_12.htm

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Alex Collier claims to be a 'contactee' with a race of Nordic looking humans from the constellation of Andromeda. He has had a number of contact experiences since his childhood and this developed over the years as he was given more and more information by his Andromedan contacts. I have analyzed Alex Collier's information, had phone interviews with him, and also interverviewed him over a four day period in September 2005. I have witnessed some physical evidence he has provided to support his testimony. I have also spoken with a direct witness verifying various aspects of Alex's contact experiences.

Alex has also revealed that he was the recipient of threats from shadow government agencies and abruptly chose to stop disseminating his information in 2000. Furthermore, Alex has give face to face interviews with veteran UFO researcher Paola Harris who has had the opportunity to examine the evidence supporting his testimony and concludes he is credible.

My conclusion from my investigation so far of Alex is that he is very credible and very likely a genuine contactee with a 'friendly' extraterrestrial race. I therefore recommend taking the information he has to reveal very seriously. All those interested in galactic diplomacy and understanding a variety of extraterrestrial races interacting with humanity, will find Alex's work to be very helpful.
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Andromedan contactee Alex Collier has had his face-to-face contacts with blue-skinned human ETs from the Andromeda constellation and the Andromeda galaxy, which have included multiple visits aboard their tremendous motherships and decades of telepathic contact. Collier talks of the Andromedan civilization and their Council to which the Pleiadian ETs appealed for assistance in dealing with a dangerous, malevolent ET confederation plaguing humanity and much of the galaxy.
Collier describes in detail the members of this malevolent ET confederation consisting of reptilian ETs from Alpha Draconis, the Orion Group, and the grey ETs from Zeta Reticuli 2, and it appears that the Alpha Draconan reptilian ETs have been manipulating humanity into a nearly invisble system of servitude for aeons, feeding off of our labor and our bodies through the wars that they instigate and the hostile belief systems which they foster in the form of religious and social instituions.
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Harris: So how did you begin then? As a child?

Collier: It’s all here in the book. It started when I was 8 at a family picnic in Michigan. I remember I was lying down in some tall grass and just hiding. Next thing I remember I closed my eyes expecting to be found and the next thing I know I am lying on a table looking at two men, a short one, who was very very old looking , very white skin and on the other side of him was a tall one , a huge man. They were hairless but they were human in every sense of the word even their eyes but there is skin is blue. It is because of their star. The frequency of their star is blue. The tall one is Morenae. That is not his real name but they are a telepathic race and they use symbols for names, like Mathematics. I knew them. I recognized them. It is hard to explain how I knew them. We are so much more than just this.

Harris: Did they tell you anything that you could understand?

Collier: Oh! Yes. Basically, they had a program in place. A message to re-educate me on who I was, which is one of the first things they did. They put something on my head which looked like a cap. But it had a hole in the center like a donut and it fit my head. It was a metallic structure. Morenae waved his head over something on the table and suddenly all these monitors appear on the wall out of nowhere. They just weren’t there before so they just materialized and when it was over they disappeared. One of the monitors was measuring my heartbeat and all my physicality from this one little cap , on the right side. It was like it was reading my mind cause I got to see what I was thinking visually in space. That was very intense!


Harris: If you are not at the intellectual level to accept contact, you will consider it a violation. It is too bad these experiences get" bad press’ Was there a feeling that you had something to do and you had better do it and you had agreed to do it before you were born. Are we talking mission here?

Collier: According to the A’s we are genetic royalty ,everyone on this planet and it has nothing to do with where we are on a soul level. People confuse the two. It is like people don’t listen as well as they hear. They say we are genetic royalty because we the subtotal in our genetics of 22 different races. Many different races have been here, over millions and millions of years they have genetically tampered with us and left us and ended up mating while they were here.
Even North American Indian tribes confirm this http://books.google.... system&f=false

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* Many of the Native American tribes such as Cherokee, Hopi, Osage, Sioux, and others believe they came from the Pleiades Constellation.

The Star connection

According to the Council,

* In ancient Egypt, there still were quite a few priests and priestesses who could communicate with the Stars. They could also do Dimensional travel and bring the Star energy information back to Earth.

Indigenious legends also provide several examples:

* The Lakota, Navajo, Hopi, and other tribes had medicine men known as Star Shamans. These Star Shamans communicated with beings from the Stars and brought that information to Earth.

The Light Council says, "In all of the Universe, there is a Oneness that connects all life everywhere, not just on this world. There are many other worlds that have life on them, in addition to the Earth."

The Council continues, "Humans are a highly developed consiousness which is not indigenious to Earth. Some of those who originally came to Earth were of higher consiousness, others were not. Eons ago, beings from many Dimensions came to Earth. Some of these beings were from a whole different Solar system. Others came from a Black Hole that act as portal to a different solar system."

The Council adds, "The very first beings on Earth were nonhumans of much lower energy vibration and more physical Density. The humans with souls were put on Earth later to be the keepers of the Earth. They are called Indians, also known as the Native Americans."

According to the Cherokee, the descendants of the Pleiadians and the Earth beings are called the Red Nations of North America. Their story tells of the Pleiadian Star people coming to Atlantis, intermingling with the original Earth inhabitants, and having children that carried the beginnings of higher consiousness.'
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Master_race

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Master race (Herrenvolk (German: die Herrenrasse, das Herrenvolk (help·info))) was a concept in Nazi ideology in which the Nordic race, a branch of what in late-19th and early-20th century taxonomy was called the Aryan race, represented an ideal and "pure race". In Nazi ideology this "Nordic" race was the purest example of the original racial stock of those who were then called the Proto-Aryans,[1] whom the Nazis believed to have prehistorically dwelt on the North German Plain and to have ultimately originated from the lost continent of Atlantis.






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