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#1    Jessica Christ

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:02 AM

we gave you a country
opened our doors
a wife willed herself to you
a woman one of ours
she gave you a child
and we claim her too

just as
we claimed you

could not find your place
hatred secretly waited
always does when we lose love
life is hard for us too
you added to that challenge
ask Allah to help heal the damage

in our hearts
and your soul too

the light will always
outshine the darkness
two sides we all share
what else is there?
biology shows us
we are all the same

we don't outnumber you
we are you



—Thanks to SpiritWriter and Ruben Bolling for inspiring this piece.


#2    Nefer-Ankhe

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:15 AM

We do?

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#3    Sir Wearer of Hats

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:41 AM

Forgiveness is a very Christ-like option.
I can't see it catching on.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

#4    ealdwita

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:24 AM

And just who gave you the right to use the word 'we'?

"Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel, ac gecnáwan þín gefá!": "Fate goes ever as she shall, but know thine enemy!".
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#5    freetoroam

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:00 AM

I am not one of the "we".
Would not this piece  be better on facebook?!

Edited by freetoroam, 22 April 2013 - 10:01 AM.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

#6    Asadora

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:12 AM

Don't speak for me. I can do that just fine all on my own.

I do not forgive cowards. I do not forgive terrorists.

I am not one of the 'we'. (As Freetoroam so beautifully wrote)


Kind Regards.

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#7    ealdwita

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:49 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 22 April 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Would not this piece  be better on facebook?!

A waste-paper basket would be my vote!

"Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel, ac gecnáwan þín gefá!": "Fate goes ever as she shall, but know thine enemy!".
I can teach you with a quip, if I've a mind; I can trick you into learning with a laugh; Oh, winnow all my folly and you'll find, A grain or two of truth among the chaff!
(The Yeoman of the Guard ~ Gilbert and Sullivan)

#8    Frank Merton

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:15 PM

It occurs to me seeing this exchange that just as it is not ours to judge, it is not ours to forgive


#9    libstaK

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:41 PM

It's a piece of creative writing, designed to ellicit an emotional response.  I think it's pretty good, it has you all very emotive ;)

"I warn you, whoever you are, oh you who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if you do not find within yourself that which you seek, neither shall you find it outside.
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
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#10    freetoroam

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:58 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 22 April 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

it has you all very emotive ;)
But not in a forgiving way.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:52 PM

Never mind.

Edited by theSOURCE, 22 April 2013 - 05:12 PM.


#12    Princess Serenity

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:29 PM

Who's 'we?' I don't forgive monsters and I never will. Don't speak for me.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:28 PM

I don't get ti.  Am I being dense?  It seems to have a few peoples panties in a bunch, and I just love bunchy panties.


#14    Dan'O

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:27 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 22 April 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

It's a piece of creative writing, designed to ellicit an emotional response.  I think it's pretty good, it has you all very emotive ;)

Trolling. But that is OK when it serves you and your amusement?


#15    libstaK

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:00 PM

View PostDan, on 22 April 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Trolling. But that is OK when it serves you and your amusement?
This is the artists and writers section - it is not about amusement it is about expression.  You are aware it is a poem?

"I warn you, whoever you are, oh you who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if you do not find within yourself that which you seek, neither shall you find it outside.
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."

Inscription - Temple of Delphi




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