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#1    Merc14

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:27 PM

Like something straight out of Atlas Shrugged, the Senate and Congress and OBama administration are trying to carve out an exemption that shields them from the ravages of the disastrous Obamacare regulations that are just starting to hit with a vengeance.   The Politico, of all places, reports that the llegislators are afraid the massive increases in costs would cause many staffers to abandon Washingtoon for greener pastures.  The talks are very secretive because they are all aware of the probable backlash, regardless of the MSM's attempty top cover for them, whne voters find out.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

What a shock. *******s

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:09 AM

So many of the people involved, and close to, the ones who forced this abomination through want no part in it?  I guess they should have read what was in it before voting...

Edit:  Then there's the Republicans who are salivating over the prospect that our lawmakers do get exempted.  That would be a huge blow to everyone who hasn't actively opposed it.

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“I have no problems with Congress being under the same guidelines,” Burr said. “I think if this is going to be a disaster — which I think it’s going to be — we ought to enjoy it together with our constituents.”


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostWickian, on 26 April 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

So many of the people involved, and close to, the ones who forced this abomination through want no part in it?  I guess they should have read what was in it before voting...

Edit:  Then there's the Republicans who are salivating over the prospect that our lawmakers do get exempted.  That would be a huge blow to everyone who hasn't actively opposed it.

Boehner better figure oout how to let teh democrats hang themselves on their own  It is amazing how little anger there is over this.  Of course the MSM is covering for Reid and company but there is no way this will stay underground.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostMerc14, on 26 April 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

Boehner better figure oout how to let teh democrats hang themselves on their own  It is amazing how little anger there is over this.  Of course the MSM is covering for Reid and company but there is no way this will stay underground.
I boldly proclaime dthe same fate for the coverage of Benghazigate also... Fox is the only outlet that won't let it die.  The rest of the government is just ignoring it.  It's like there has been a coup in plain sight and no one gives a ****.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:23 PM

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:43 PM

Nice.  So they don't care if the middle clsss suffers from this legislation, or if small businesses are bankrupted, or if this drive healthcare costs higher than ever, but they worry about thier own asses and how it may effect thier political lifes?  Great.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 06:30 AM

View PostOverSword, on 26 April 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Nice. So they don't care if the middle clsss suffers from this legislation, or if small businesses are bankrupted, or if this drive healthcare costs higher than ever, but they worry about thier own asses and how it may effect thier political lifes? Great.
You know if it drops the "expected" yearly rate increases by even 1% the Liberals will call it a Ringing Good Success.

Like saying that Unemployment numbers are doing well when they drop from 9% to 8%. That is still not "Doing well". It is Doing Badly....

Edited by DieChecker, 28 April 2013 - 06:32 AM.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostMerc14, on 25 April 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Like something straight out of Atlas Shrugged, the Senate and Congress and OBama administration are trying to carve out an exemption that shields them from the ravages of the disastrous Obamacare regulations that are just starting to hit with a vengeance.   The Politico, of all places, reports that the llegislators are afraid the massive increases in costs would cause many staffers to abandon Washingtoon for greener pastures.  The talks are very secretive because they are all aware of the probable backlash, regardless of the MSM's attempty top cover for them, whne voters find out.

http://politi.co/ZJDfkg

When Obamacare hits full bore in January 2014, it's going to destroy any chance of Democrat control of Congress come the fall - and it might even seal the fate of any Democrat presidential candidate in 2016.

I attended a dinner on Friday night in Boston with a number of very high level healthcare professionals and, regardless of political affiliation, they all agreed that Obamacare, fully implemented, is going to be an unmitigated disaster.  Now they had differing views on how to fix the problems, but all agreed it was going to be bad.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 03:08 PM

View PostRafterman, on 28 April 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

When Obamacare hits full bore in January 2014, it's going to destroy any chance of Democrat control of Congress come the fall - and it might even seal the fate of any Democrat presidential candidate in 2016.

I attended a dinner on Friday night in Boston with a number of very high level healthcare professionals and, regardless of political affiliation, they all agreed that Obamacare, fully implemented, is going to be an unmitigated disaster.  Now they had differing views on how to fix the problems, but all agreed it was going to be bad.

No doubt but once it is implemented it will have gutted the HC industry and everyone will dependent on the government for healthcare so the siren's song will be vote for the democrat or the republicans will take your healthcare away.  That was the plan all along as they knew this thing would be a disaster.

Only an idiot would think the government could possibly administer national healthcare efficiently.  This was never about healthcare, it was about control.  Control of people and control of the economy.  I don't see a way of coming back from this, honestly, as he sheeple will fold and vote democrat to keep their healthcare.  Possibly the states can do something but not syre what.  We had our chance and blew it last November.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostMerc14, on 28 April 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

No doubt but once it is implemented it will have gutted the HC industry and everyone will dependent on the government for healthcare

Interesting, since the Affordable Care Act does not provide healthcare. Thus you would be guilty of a complete lie.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:53 PM

View Postninjadude, on 28 April 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Interesting, since the Affordable Care Act does not provide healthcare. Thus you would be guilty of a complete lie.

Not sure where I said that but thanks for providing me with the perfect answer to my question "what kind of an idiot thinks the government could possibly administer national healthcare efficiently?"

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 07:20 AM

View Postninjadude, on 28 April 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Interesting, since the Affordable Care Act does not provide healthcare. Thus you would be guilty of a complete lie.
I thought the ACA expanded who can qualify for Medicaid? Isn't that heathcare insurance? More people on Medicaid using looser standards equals ACA increasing goverment provided healthcare.

So, not a complete lie...?

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According to the Health Insurance Association of America, Medicaid is defined as a “government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care. Medicaid is state-administered and financed by both the states and the federal government”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid

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ObamaCare Medicaid Expansion is one of the biggest milestones in the health care bill. ObamaCare's Medicaid expansion expands Medicaid to our nations poorest in order cover nearly half of uninsured Americans.
http://obamacarefact...d-expansion.php

Edited by DieChecker, 29 April 2013 - 07:27 AM.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

The requirements of obamacare will force most insurance companies out of the healthcare business as policies will be far to expensive for anyone to buy.  This was by design and alluded to by obama himself in a speech to the unions (I have posted that speech here before but don't have time to find now).  Since you will be required to have insurance and the only insurance available is from the government we will have single payer healthcare.

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