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#46    Sir Wearer of Hats

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

View Postdanielost, on 28 April 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Sorry this is on the woman to make sure the man does wear one.
I'm not sure I agree.
Here in Oz we were taught in High School that the woman's "job" when she's having sex is to make sure she doesn't get pregnant if she doesn't want to, and the man's "job" is to make sure he doesn't get her pregnant if he doesn't want her to be.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:49 AM

View Postminera, on 28 April 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

Where are all the fathers of those unwanted children? Why are THEY never the ones to speak up? My guess is once they found out they headed for the nearest exit and claiming the problem is the woman's or that the child is not theirs.....etc.


Our culture has been demonizing fathers for at least thirty years, and you want to know they are in hiding.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:05 AM

View PostKowalski, on 28 April 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

“Planned Parenthood performed a record 333,964 abortions last year, almost 1 million in the past three years. Last year, federal taxpayers gave Planned Parenthood a record $542 million, which is an 11 percent increase over the past two years,” Vitter further noted in a statement.

“An independent study of the federal funding for abortion providers is necessary to further expose the truth of how these precious taxpayer dollars are truly being used,” Black added.

Olson stressed the need to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not going to fund abortion services.

PP performs many other services beside abortion. This is like saying you spend 20,000 on a car to get air conditioning. It's simply not true.

And personally, I'm glad some taxpayer money is funding abortion services. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean we shouldn't fund it.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:01 AM

^ that's not how you feel about our military ND.
If I added up all the bs tax money that I, we, work hard to give away to careless and carefree people and found all the quotes of you saying it's a pittance and distributed it all back to the people we would all be rich by now.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:23 PM

When in war you dehumanize the enemy, it is easier to kill them.  In the current war we are fighting"radical" islamics and they are fighting the great devil.


In the war against infants, we call them parasites or that thay are not alive or a cancer that the woman can kill at will.

Aa for the difference between muslims and amerians.  Most of their children have a choice, an unborn doesn't.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:36 PM

View Postninjadude, on 30 April 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

PP performs many other services beside abortion. This is like saying you spend 20,000 on a car to get air conditioning. It's simply not true.

And personally, I'm glad some taxpayer money is funding abortion services. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean we shouldn't fund it.

(I suspect there will be a lot of "Mars Attacks" heads exploding now)

I can't even get a tooth pulled or go the dang dentist, but these stupid slu...I mean women, can have multiple FREE abortions?! I have a HUGE problem with that. Now, if my tax dollars were going to things like birth control for these women so they DON'T get pregnant in the first place, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

And if your stupid enough to have unprotected sex, and get pregnant, well....Not my problem! I mean you have to be seriously stupid to not know how to use a condom...

There are times where abortion is understandable. In rapes, incest, or medical emergencies. In which case the woman should have a hospital or hospital like setting where she can go.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:06 PM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 27 April 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

To the pro choice people... If you were to suddenly find out that you were an abortion survivor would you be upset that your mother tried to kill you?
i'm pro choice, and i would like to see one example of healthy adult  abortion survivor.

but for the sake of argument, lets say there are thousands, and'i' am one of them, i would not be any more displeased than knowing i was an "accedent", and unwanted by both sides, or just born for the simple reason, momy gets bigger welfare check the more kids she has. i doubt it would make any difference to me.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

View Postaztek, on 30 April 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

i'm pro choice, and i would like to see one example of healthy adult  abortion survivor.

but for the sake of argument, lets say there are thousands, and'i' am one of them, i would not be any more displeased than knowing i was an "accedent", and unwanted by both sides, or just born for the simple reason, momy gets bigger welfare check the more kids she has. i doubt it would make any difference to me.

If you Google adult abortion survivor, you can see some of the prominent ones - most involved in the Pro-Life movement.  One highly publicized case had one being mocked by Planned Parenthood supporters at a recent hearing.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

i guess there are.

but it doesn't change my opinion, woman should be able to deside weather to keep the kid or abort. i see few ppl on daily basis, that are big reason why i support abortions,

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

View Postaztek, on 30 April 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

i guess there are.

but it doesn't change my opinion, woman should be able to deside weather to keep the kid or abort. i see few ppl on daily basis, that are big reason why i support abortions,

So because you don't like people, you support abortion? LOL...That's kinda funny actually.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:33 PM

Abortion debates tend to get ugly due to the extreme arguments. If you're pro-choice you murder babies. If you're pro-life you want to enslave women.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostKowalski, on 30 April 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

So because you don't like people, you support abortion? LOL...

naw, i support womans right to choose to have baby or not, it is her that will have her life affected forever by that choice the most, not judges, or even father
those few ppl are just constant reminder, abortions are needed. and should be done more often,.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

View Postaztek, on 30 April 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

naw, i support womans right to choose to have baby or not, it is her that will have her life affected forever by that choice the most, not judges, or even father
those few ppl are just constant reminder, abortions are needed. and should be done more often,.
Should have used that 'right to choose' to 'choose' not to have sex, now that the child is going to be a 'punishment', of course we should rid ourselves of such tie downs to our morals.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:56 PM

View PostHasina, on 30 April 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

Should have used that 'right to choose' to 'choose' not to have sex, now that the child is going to be a 'punishment',

i hope that you do exactly that, only have sex when you want to get pregnant. how many kids do you have?

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:59 PM

The point is you know you are accepting a risk of pregnancy every time. Nothing is fail safe.





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