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#16    shaddow134

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:20 PM

Welcome to the Future,Unmanned aerial warfare and surveillance.The US has already demonstrated that they can fly these machines into anybody's airspace and basically pick off anybody they want.The fact now that the UK and Western Governments are now acquiring these extremely useful and dangerous weapon systems should be of no surprise.

Put this together with all the Cameras on the ground,there really is no place to hide anymore.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:40 PM

I know people tend to hate drones but it doesn't seem like they're doing anything different from what manned jets would be doing.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostCorp, on 30 April 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

I know people tend to hate drones but it doesn't seem like they're doing anything different from what manned jets would be doing.

No but they are smaller,and harder to see and hear,the pilot is safely back in his operations room and drones cost one fifth or less than a fighter plane.Which in a world of tightening budgets make them a very viable and attractive option.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:56 PM

View PostCorp, on 30 April 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

I know people tend to hate drones but it doesn't seem like they're doing anything different from what manned jets would be doing.

the argument is there is less political pressure on governments, so in the future their more likely to intervene militarily than if their forces lives are not put at risk as they are now. a good example would be Iran. if its estimated conventional strikes on Iran would likely see a 5% attrition rate of planes shot down. politically the fallout from captured or downed planes/pilots would be a disaster at home. - but if you can send drones who cares of the 5% rate - shot down. only machines, doesn't have the same impact as human lives.

remember the impact on seeing the images from the Gulf War 1991. even aged nine i can still remember seeing the images on the NEWS and propaganda film of the downed UK Tornado, and the captured and then tortured images of both pilots Flt John Peters and John Nichol.  

From five minutes you can see the footage released by the Iraqis. John Peters was battered by the Iraqis.




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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

Overall, the Old European Nations TEND to act with greater humanity and responsibility  than the USA Military model. The Rules of Engagement are very strictly adhered to.

It is important to understand that NO drones have Binocular vision (i.e. twin, separated, video feeds back to base to give depth perception to the pilots) which is a simple cost analysis amounting to approximately 100,000 USD per aircraft. But cost is everything... With depth perception then it is easier (much) to ensure that your target is that which is intended, without the enormous collateral deaths of innocent people.

Then there are Institutional Imperitives... who, in their right mind, would allow such Organisations as the CIA to operate and command ANY drone mission? They seem to be supporting Heroin Production in Afghanistan (UK Troops forbidden from burning the Poppy Fields).


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Posted 02 May 2013 - 09:50 PM

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 09:52 PM

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