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Did humans reach Americas 22,000 years ago?


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#1    Saru

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 11:36 AM

New evidence has been found which suggests humans reached South America far earlier than thought.

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Humans lived in South America at the height of the last ice age, thousands of years earlier than we thought, according to a controversial study. A team claims to have found 22,000-year-old stone tools at a site in Brazil, though other archaeologists are disputing the claim.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:14 PM

"Of course America had been discovered before Columbus, but it had always been hushed up"...Oscar Wilde.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:15 PM

You mean they weren't Israelites that later became the Indians and Mexicans? Joseph Smith couldn't be THAT off, could he?

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:22 PM

I will believe it when there is much better evidence than now; in the meantime a much later date seems more likely, although even then several thousands of years before Noah.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:19 PM

They have been hiding evidence of human settlement of the Americans likely the Americas was settled  for centuries. It is more than likely a 100.000 to 250,000 year record of settlement exist but is denied for political and racist reasons.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:21 PM

Honestly, the 20-40 thousand year ago range seems most likely. Doesn't mean these populations were successful and could have easily died off due to disease or natural disasters, etc, but the 12 thousand year ago mark just seems too late. Humans are adventurous creatures after all and can/will spread whereever possible as quickly as possible.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

This goes along with the  dig on my company's plant site in Martin, SC. There is strong evidence that humans were in North America around that time as well.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

Bloody hell... humans reached everywhere before everyone thought... recorded history doesn't mean sh*te! I think we should gift all our land in the world to the neanderthals (yes i know a few) they were there first.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 09:19 PM

Where do they get the "2,000" from?  Not 20, 000 but precisely 22, 000.??


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 10:49 PM

View PostDark_Grey, on 30 April 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

You mean they weren't Israelites that later became the Indians and Mexicans? Joseph Smith couldn't be THAT off, could he?
You forgot the Egyptians in the Grand Canyon.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 11:54 PM

From the OP Link:

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Stones falling from above can break, making them look like human-made tools. As a result, McNabb calls the evidence "suggestive but unproven".

I tend to fall into this group. Many of the pictures I've seen online from the oldest of these Pre-Clovis sites appear (to me) to be randomly faulted gravel. I do agree that there is very good evidence in several places of pre-Clovis occupation, but some of the more ancient claims seem to be very less well evidenced, to put it kindly. Finding charcoal and findin faulted rocks does not equal human habitation.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 12:40 AM

Same topic, 6 weeks ago

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=244814


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Edited by Abramelin, 01 May 2013 - 12:41 AM.


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 12:48 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 01 May 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:


There are the pictures of the gravel I was talking about. I've seen many much more arrow-heady stones walking randomly around the Oregon countryside.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:06 AM

I think people where here sooner.but did they stay thats the question.


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:21 AM

As I understand the finds, and they are really not convincing, there may have been humans in the Americas 22,000 years ago according to the dating of materials found associated with what may be stone tools, but the association is debated.

When the last ice age began to end, real movements of Siberian populations happened geologically very rapidly (less than a thousand years) and quickly populated the Americas head to toe.  Subsequently several other waves of migration may also have happened and the Americas may have been visited but not settled successfully by Chinese, Japanese, Polynesians, Scandinavians, and maybe even Romans.





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