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#1    zegma

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

I have been meditating for a long time, and recently tried Remote Viewing. After I thought I was good enough to stop the online tests I tried a couple of my own. Everything was fine, then I tried viewing greater distances, other worlds, other people. That is where my problem comes from. I viewed a really strange world for maybe two seconds, then I heard an angry voice in my ear speaking some language I have never heard threateningly. It scared me right out of meditation. I tried again to view that world a couple days later and this time I FELT a hand on my shoulder Stopping me. The last time I tried I was completely redirected to a place where there were at least a half dozen people standing around me, like they could see me. I couldn't hear any words and they wouldn't let me look up at them, but they showed me that they were there, and watching, and that I should stop looking for them, because It was pointless and I could get hurt. They made it clear that they did not want to hurt me, but also made it clear that they were not my friends. now I'm afraid to remote view or even meditate.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

maybe your being told off for being a intergalactic peeping tom unintentionally ;)
do you have any tips for beginning remote viewing and how does it differ from astral projection.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:12 PM

Continue your training. They are just obstacle to test if you are devoted to have that gift or not


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:30 PM

View PostArmchair Educated, on 30 April 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

maybe your being told off for being a intergalactic peeping tom unintentionally ;)
do you have any tips for beginning remote viewing and how does it differ from astral projection.

That made me laugh. I'm sure there's a joke about Uranus there somewhere.... :innocent:

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:25 AM

Remote viewing can have a Peeping Tom quality about it. While we wouldn't physically walk into someone's house without being invited, or jump into a car with a stranger, when we're remote viewing we don't seem to have the same scruples or manners, maybe because we believe we're not in a physical body, and therefore believe we can't be seen. Would you want a stranger remote viewing you and violating your privacy simply because they can and because they're curious? Probably not. I believe we have an obligation to use gifts like this wisely, respectfully, and in a well-considered manner. It's always good to ask permission before invading someone's privacy and apologize when you're caught.

Edited by Beany, 03 May 2013 - 05:26 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:22 AM

Remote viewing is just an advanced form of astral projection . There are many nasty things on the astral plane. Generally they cannot hurt you ,but sometimes.....they can .
You need to do protective affirmations before traveling out ,and protect your physical body in a way that's comfortable to you .
Sounds silly,but it helps.
. That all being said,know,that karmically ,this kind of astral projection is considered invasive by most . It can repercussions in future lives .
And i would know ,as I'm paying for it this time around . I was a bbbaaadddd girl .


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:01 AM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 03 May 2013 - 06:22 AM, said:

Remote viewing is just an advanced form of astral projection . There are many nasty things on the astral plane. Generally they cannot hurt you ,but sometimes.....they can .
You need to do protective affirmations before traveling out ,and protect your physical body in a way that's comfortable to you .
Sounds silly,but it helps.
. That all being said,know,that karmically ,this kind of astral projection is considered invasive by most . It can repercussions in future lives .
And i would know ,as I'm paying for it this time around . I was a bbbaaadddd girl .
Sound great. Do you have any good tutorial for remote viewing? :)


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:19 PM

Maybe instead of space spooks it's your own mind, reflecting back to you your own apprehensions and thoughts. Our brains do that a lot.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 07:27 PM

View PostFlyingAngel, on 03 May 2013 - 11:01 AM, said:


Sound great. Do you have any good tutorial for remote viewing? :)
Well as I said,I only know it as astral projection . The best book I've ever read is by someone with no name . I think ite a one word title like Being ,or something like that .they wrote more than one book . I think in the 70s...
I suspect they're out of print .
He,I assume it was a he ,explained how to get out of your body thru your third eye ,and how to do simple tasks initially .
Like wandering around your own home,out of body .
As I said ,there are karmic repercussions if you abuse this.
It can affect others behavior and out come of events.
To abuse it in this way,means you can be "grounded" ,in later lifetimes.
Given my difficulties with projection ,its been suggested I am grounded this life time
.I believe it .
If I could do it this time ,I already know I would abuse it to do certain things ,to certain people .
I will look for that book and give you the particulars . I have it somewhere .

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:29 PM

There is great evil in the invisible spirit world. Be aware! :cry: :passifier: :gun: :tu:


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:53 AM

It's not spirits it's string theory, theoretical physics, you've gone to different dimensions.  Meditating changes your vibrational state allowing you to take a peek into a different dimension.  I saw that quantum physicist from Yale talk about it... very interesting.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:50 PM

I am guessing here OP that you didn't shield yourself while meditating?

Before you meditate, or go on any astral travel, you have to visualise yourself being covered by a sphere or protective energy.

Those "visions" you had and voices you were hearing might've been spirits.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:46 PM

Take the hint and stop doing it.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:45 PM

View Postzegma, on 30 April 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

I have been meditating for a long time, and recently tried Remote Viewing. After I thought I was good enough to stop the online tests I tried a couple of my own. Everything was fine, then I tried viewing greater distances, other worlds, other people. That is where my problem comes from. I viewed a really strange world for maybe two seconds, then I heard an angry voice in my ear speaking some language I have never heard threateningly. It scared me right out of meditation. I tried again to view that world a couple days later and this time I FELT a hand on my shoulder Stopping me. The last time I tried I was completely redirected to a place where there were at least a half dozen people standing around me, like they could see me. I couldn't hear any words and they wouldn't let me look up at them, but they showed me that they were there, and watching, and that I should stop looking for them, because It was pointless and I could get hurt. They made it clear that they did not want to hurt me, but also made it clear that they were not my friends. now I'm afraid to remote view or even meditate.

I wont remote view anymore; usually I could only see the person's hair and then later confirm what kind of hair they had--why? IDK, that's just the way it worked for me, but I still meditate every day if possible. You don't have to go anywhere in meditation, just be aware...but I did have lucid dreams in which I saw watchers that looked like bald CEO's with glasses, sitting in a VIP booth, gazing through a giant window. Spirits would not need to wear glasses so that was telling me something.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 08:13 PM

We're spiritual beings inside material bodies & we each have a guard that holds the soul in the body. The guard stays with us throughout life, then at death hands our soul to other beings. If we start reaching out of our bodies into the spiritual planes then for a while things may go smoothly until the guard decides to make its presence known. It's like being awoken when you're sleep walking. It can give you quite a fright.

The thing to do is respectfully acknowledge the guard's presence & listen to any of its concerns. If you make friends with the guard it will take you to into the spiritual realm & lead you through it in a safe controlled way.

Many people have had their lives ruined by fighting against their own guards for years. They see it as a negative being that is against them, but really it just wants to keep things grounded so that the soul focuses on the earth life instead. The thing to do is simply make friends with it & then you'll find that you are still able to explore the spiritual side of life without fear.






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