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#181    Kludge808

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:08 AM

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Sigh. If you knew even the slightest about RADAR you would never post such. What we see here is merely an early version of AWACS (Early warning and control system). It is a means to get a larger RADAR on an airborne platform and the shape is given by aerodynamics. Please do educate yourself rather than embarrassing yourself.
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:35 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 15 May 2013 - 02:37 AM, said:

You are joking, right? You know that all radars are distance detection devices, right? It kinda derives from the acronym (RAdio Detection And Ranging).



The inventor of what? Of RADAR?



Sigh. If you knew even the slightest about RADAR you would never post such. What we see here is merely an early version of AWACS (Early warning and control system). It is a means to get a larger RADAR on an airborne platform and the shape is given by aerodynamics. Please do educate yourself rather than embarrassing yourself.

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I read the article a long time ago so I didn't know the proper term but it related to the disc that you see ontop of the plane. You haven't specified who came up with the design.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:50 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 15 May 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

I read the article a long time ago so I didn't know the proper term but it related to the disc that you see ontop of the plane. You haven't specified who came up with the design.
A team of engineers did.  Apparently you haven't a clue how aircraft are designed either.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostKludge808, on 15 May 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

Yep.  We called 'em Willy Victors in the Navy.  (The E1 variant of the S2F were called Willy Fudds.)  Got to operate with one a couple times aboard the Hornet.  Lotsa fun!

Who called me a Willy Fudd?!?! I'm not sure but them sounds like fighting words! <_< :gun:

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:59 PM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 15 May 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

I read the article a long time ago so I didn't know the proper term but it related to the disc that you see ontop of the plane. You haven't specified who came up with the design.

Bill Skills and his engineering team at Northrop-Grumman.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:11 PM

View Postbadeskov, on 15 May 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

Northrup Grumman claiming the credit is rather like Boeing claiming ro have designed the DC-3 (which I saw in one of their promotional blurbs they tried to do once. :D )

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 15 May 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Who called me a Willy Fudd?!?! I'm not sure but them sounds like fighting words! <_< :gun:

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Oh, they were considering the Cold War was in full swing.  But don't worry, it's an honorable name with an honorable record. :-)

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:28 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 15 May 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Northrup Grumman claiming the credit is rather like Boeing claiming ro have designed the DC-3 (which I saw in one of their promotional blurbs they tried to do once. :D )
With all the mergers et al, it's kind of difficult for anyone to not lay claim to some of the older developments.  Even with a scorecard, it's tough to tell who's who anymore.

Anyway, Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 so can technically claim the DC-3 since it's part of what Douglas brought to the overall corporate line.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 09:01 PM

I can no longer find the link but it was awhile ago. The gist was a group of pilots during the late 1940s had a disc sighting inside the cockpit. The inventor of the disc looking radar system, AWACs was one of the pilots. I think it mentioned a defense cobtractor like Northorp or Boeing and Seattle and there was a competition but can't be sure.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:41 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 15 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

I can no longer find the link but it was awhile ago. The gist was a group of pilots during the late 1940s had a disc sighting inside the cockpit. The inventor of the disc looking radar system, AWACs was one of the pilots. I think it mentioned a defense cobtractor like Northorp or Boeing and Seattle and there was a competition but can't be sure.

I can't really speak to the past of the inventor, but for the AWACS there indeed was a competition. The specs required of the RADAR were given and that dictated the size of the RADAR and it was pretty obvious that it had to be external to the aircraft and rotating. That in turn entailed that the RADAR had to be encased and aerodynamics dictated the shape of the encasing. There was no artistic license based on inspiration from elsewhere in that whatsoever, it was purely dictated by hard physics.  

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:42 AM

View PostKludge808, on 15 May 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

With all the mergers et al, it's kind of difficult for anyone to not lay claim to some of the older developments.  Even with a scorecard, it's tough to tell who's who anymore.

Anyway, Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 so can technically claim the DC-3 since it's part of what Douglas brought to the overall corporate line.

Indeed. Now it is all intertwined due to acquisitions, mergers, division sell-offs etc.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:59 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 15 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

I can no longer find the link but it was awhile ago. The gist was a group of pilots during the late 1940s had a disc sighting inside the cockpit.
Huh?  There was a disk in the cockpit?  Bet it was a saucer one of the stews left behind after bringing them their coffee.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:41 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 16 May 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

I can't really speak to the past of the inventor,

Then why automatically dismiss the story? This was on a person's blog. It wasn't a silly conspiracy web site or something like that. I'm just going from memory though.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 09:53 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 21 May 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Then why automatically dismiss the story? This was on a person's blog. It wasn't a silly conspiracy web site or something like that. I'm just going from memory though.

Because you are going from memory and I have been unable to find anything indicating that was actually the case. Besides that, it is really obvious that the shape of the radar dome is dictated by physics to yield an airworthy and efficient airframe.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 10:14 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 21 May 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Then why automatically dismiss the story? This was on a person's blog. It wasn't a silly conspiracy web site or something like that. I'm just going from memory though.
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