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#31    White Crane Feather

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostNetero, on 05 May 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Here's my example..This is what happen to me when Jesus Christ come into my room... Why this happen and how did he came into my room in the middle of the night?
It's nice to see a positive altered state encounter for once. I believe you netero. I'm glad you came away with a positive experience.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:28 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 05 May 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

What an unfortunate thing to think.  I have no idea how to respond to such fancifulness and lack of the depth.  You must mean something alien to what is meant by the word throughout history, something that to me is incomprehensible.  Knowledge and understanding and enlightenment do not come from our toenails or some magical formula, but from study and thought and teaching and good living and compassion and humility.
No enlightenment just  is. It comes in many ways but study is not essential, anymore than study is essential to connect with god. Enlightenment IS becoming one with the universal consciousness and gaining access to all its wisdom, knowledge, skills and experience.

Enlightenment then becomes  a way of life and a lifelong growth. One can control ones metabolism, emotions, physical senses like pain, and ones mind. In fact one can learn how to make far better use of the mind; to have an eidetic memory read as fast as one can  turn a page, and divide the mind into mutli tasking compartments using multiple forms of intelligence simultaneously.

One connects the conscious and subconscious minds so that all dreams are self aware and controlled experiences. One IS a part of the universe with access to that universe and the minds within it. One can connect to other minds past and present, hitch a ride anywhere in the world or the universe, and is never lost, physically or spiritually.

A small part of it is "extending ones chi" to interact with the environment around you.  

You dont have to learn how to do these things. If you learn them first, they can help you achieve enlightenment, but once enlightened you have the skills, knowledge, and mindset, whether you ever studied them or not. They come as a part of the package.

Another small part is the awareness of the insignificance of material things. It is the mind and consciousness which determines all. One can be a prisoner without bars, and a totally free man behind them .
Ps an enlightened person will have all thise qualities you describe. You can't be enlightened without them  For example knowing I am one with all humanity and all life on earth, how can i see my slef as superior or isolated or disconnected from the plight of all of me around this earth.

But they are a product of being enlightened not necessaily  a prerequisite for enlightenment.


I appreciate this hardly seems fair, but it is just the way it works sometiimes. It does require a lot of self knowledge and reflection to open ones mind, but it is not hard and can be achieved by a quite young individual.

Edited by Mr Walker, 05 May 2013 - 04:33 PM.

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Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world..

Be cheerful.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:52 PM

View PostNetero, on 05 May 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Here's my example..This is what happen to me when Jesus Christ come into my room... Why this happen and how did he came into my room in the middle of the night?
I must that is a very strange image in the picture. I really do not know what to say,  I have never seen such small feet like that on a grown man.
And may i recommend you do not wear your grey socks in bed in future, it may give you strange dreams.

Edited by freetoroam, 05 May 2013 - 04:53 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:08 PM

I think the OP experienced what he experienced, but it seems to me these kinds of experiences are too subjective in nature to be relied on as actual physical phenomena. This leaves open the question of it being a spiritual phenomenon, which is also subjective, and resides in the person's mind as well , which we all know is unreliable as a witness, and can conger up many self-created visions such as dreams and hallucinations.

As for enlightenment I submit this:

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Q:  What Dharma do all the Buddhas teach when they manifest themselves in the world?

A:  When all the Buddhas manifest themselves in the world, they proclaim nothing but the One Mind.  Thus Gautama Buddha silently transmitted the doctrine that the One Mind, which is the substance of all things and fills the entire world of phenomena.  Discuss it as you may, how can you even hope to approach the truth through words?  Nor can it be perceived either subjectively or objectively.  So, full understanding can come to you only through an inexpressible mystery.  The approach to it is called the Gateway of the Stillness beyond all Activity.  If you wish to understand, know that a sudden comprehension comes when the mind has been purged of all the clutter of conceptual and discriminatory thought-activity.  Those who seek the truth by means of intellect and learning only get further and further away from it.  
Not till your thoughts cease all their branching here and there, not till you abandon all thoughts of seeking for something, not till your mind is motionless as wood or stone, will you be on the right road to the Gate."


Edited by StarMountainKid, 05 May 2013 - 05:09 PM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:17 PM

View PostNetero, on 05 May 2013 - 05:48 AM, said:

Glory to Jesus Christ... I guess Jesus Christ have a mission here on earth. In 1 billion houses here in the whole world, he will knock on our house's door to test us. I am sure that he's doing it right now and it is happening.
Why im saying these because me myself saw Jesus christ I swear. He appeared when I was in my bed In year 2010, i can't move my body but i'm awake and I saw Jesus Christ standing behind me.
Im not Hallucinating! 2010 I saw Jesus Christ! His wearing the same clothes.


I don't think that was actually Jesus. I had a similar experience when "Jesus" appeared to hover behind my bed. He had a blue/purple robe and no feet. For you he had feet but no face. One theory in demonology is that evil must appear with a visible flaw. That makes sense especially if Jesus wants to prevent a slew of Jesus impersonators for obvious reasons. In my case I had a very high pain threshold so "Jesus" produced some instrument with a dial on top; he turned the dial past the mark of tolerable pain. This happened maybe ten years ago and after that I started to get gout. Gout is the worst pain. This led to a kind of physical hell. I hope you don't have any excruciating problems with your right hand. I think most people's initial reaction is to try to see the positive in an experience, but time will tell. Sorry that does not support your sin-removal theory, but life is not so easy as that [IMO].

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:25 AM

#markprice

Maybe your right #markprice but I found this in bible... the bible said in 1 THESSALONIANS 5:2 "for you yourselves know very well that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night." So is that true that Jesus will return like a theif in the night? Is it possible that it may happen to other people? Is it the proof that Jesus Christ will return?

Edited by Netero, 06 May 2013 - 11:05 AM.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:43 AM

So it means Jesus Christ not only heal you when the day he came at night... I guess he will also take something sacred to us like a thief in the night. How long it will take just to fullfil this? What is the thing that he will take on us? What is the purpose of the object? Is Jesus Christ collecting something I dont know?

Edited by Netero, 06 May 2013 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:35 AM

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I'm not really good in painting, I just did it in a rush so i can illustrate my experience... I did not paint it very well sorry...


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 12:58 AM

Netero said:

'm not really good in painting, I just did it in a rush so i can illustrate my experience... I did not paint it very well sorry.

I think your painting is really good. I'd like to see more.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:21 AM

View PostNetero, on 05 May 2013 - 05:48 AM, said:

Why im saying these because me myself saw Jesus christ I swear. He appeared when I was in my bed In year 2010, i can't move my body but i'm awake and I saw Jesus Christ standing behind me.

I think a more plausible explanation is sleep paralysis.

"Hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations are symptoms commonly experienced during episodes of sleep paralysis. Some scientists have proposed this condition as an explanation for reports of alien abductions and ghostly encounters"


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:31 AM

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Yes that is definitely a Good Sign when Jesus shows up like that. You're so very fortunate. You must be blessed by God.

Edited by Perfection, 07 May 2013 - 08:32 AM.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:34 AM

What you saw that night is actually irrelevant. Only thing that matters did you profoundly changed your life due to that experience , have you become a man of faith and believer? If you were christian before that visitation, then the vision you experienced is not important, Christ is with you whether you see Him or not. How many people would believe in Christ if he shows up to them in person? Yet it seems that you have to believe first in order to see Him.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:51 AM

What would I do and what would I become if Jesus showed up at my bedstead?  Well it hasn't happened, so I guess the question is moot.  I don't think broadcasting it around is very praiseworthy though.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:14 AM

#Amalthe

Before that happen to me my mom told me that to read her bible. She said theres a lot of lesson you will learn in that bible so I read it in a rush. I'm already Born Again Christian before that happen, and already have faith with Jesus Christ.

Edited by Netero, 07 May 2013 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 12:35 PM

#Amalthe

Before that happened... I remember my mom told me that to read her bible. She said theres a lot of lesson you will learn in that bible so I read it in a rush. I'm already Born Again Christian before that happen, and already have faith with Jesus Christ.

Edited by Netero, 07 May 2013 - 12:35 PM.





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