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The Sphinx head - Is it the original?

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#181    laver

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:49 PM

It might be that the strange angle is just a clue, an ancient clue that it is all about angles. It is the angle of the Great Pyramid that is so important, its seked or height to base ratio which with its location and the angles to other sites over great distances is the secret meaning in the construction of a Great Design. It was clearly meant to be found at some time in the future and an odd angled layout may be meant to direct us to look at the angles to work out the mystery.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:15 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 25 June 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

Aquatus I` am sincere, even though I added the smiles cause I don`nt want anyone all mad at me for my questions:)

The smilies don't help when your questions don't reflect what is being said.  There is a limit to how much you can misunderstand.

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Now you saying that Khrafe`s pryamid was made frist ,then the cause way and the temples  like in this picture,

Yes.

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only at a angle to avoid the rock cropping,

No.  At an angle to avoid Khufu's quarry.  They also angled it far enough away so that they wouldn't have to carve away the rock outcropping, and so they wouldn't be looking over a quarry every time they used the causeway, but that was for aesthetics, not because of engineering.

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but what is to say that rock cropping of the lelf over quarry of khufu`s was not already carved into the image of the Sphinx?

That has already been answered.  Multiple times.  Repeating yourself does not, in any way, shape, or form, affect the answer that has been given.  If you do not understand the answer, then ask for clarification about the answer given.  If you refuse to acknowledge the answer, that is your concern and yours alone, but it is the primary reason why your sincerity is in question.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:16 PM

View Postlaver, on 25 June 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

It might be that the strange angle is just a clue, an ancient clue that it is all about angles. It is the angle of the Great Pyramid that is so important, its seked or height to base ratio which with its location and the angles to other sites over great distances is the secret meaning in the construction of a Great Design. It was clearly meant to be found at some time in the future and an odd angled layout may be meant to direct us to look at the angles to work out the mystery.

Why would you assume the Egyptians did something like this?

What in their entire history hints that they were the kind of people to indulge in this sort of exercise?


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:32 PM

View Postaquatus1, on 25 June 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

Why would you assume the Egyptians did something like this?

What in their entire history hints that they were the kind of people to indulge in this sort of exercise?


That is the whole point. The 'entire history' of the Egyptians does not explain how such an amazingly talented culture came into being so quickly. Where did this skill and knowledge come from ? It was happening at other places in the world at about the same time....


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:42 PM

View Postlaver, on 25 June 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

That is the whole point. The 'entire history' of the Egyptians does not explain how such an amazingly talented culture came into being so quickly. Where did this skill and knowledge come from ? It was happening at other places in the world at about the same time....

How does it not?  We have a clear timeline of Egyptian engineering, progressively going from simple to complex, stretching all the way back from the first mastabas to the Bent Pyramid, to the great pyramids, with plenty of example salong the way.  More importantly, we have the ancient complexes that display their skills far more magnificently than any simple pyramid does.  The Temple Of Karnac is much, much, more impressive than the Great Pyramid at Giza, in terms of pure engineering.

And while it was likely happening in other places around the world at the time, remember that it was also happeneing all around the world at all different times in history.  Masonry technology has been discovered and re-discovered time and time again by all sorts of cultures all throughout time.

In other words, it ain't that hard to figure out.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:11 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 25 June 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

The smilies don't help when your questions don't reflect what is being said.  There is a limit to how much you can misunderstand.



Yes.



No.  At an angle to avoid Khufu's quarry.  They also angled it far enough away so that they wouldn't have to carve away the rock outcropping, and so they wouldn't be looking over a quarry every time they used the causeway, but that was for aesthetics, not because of engineering.



That has already been answered.  Multiple times.  Repeating yourself does not, in any way, shape, or form, affect the answer that has been given.  If you do not understand the answer, then ask for clarification about the answer given.  If you refuse to acknowledge the answer, that is your concern and yours alone, but it is the primary reason why your sincerity is in question.


Sorry but I don`nt see any thing wrong in my repeated  questions of the sphinx being there before khafe`s buildings.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:16 AM

Because you refuse to look.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:48 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 25 June 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

There is a limit to how much you can misunderstand.


Hmmm. Sorry, sir. If my time here has taught me any one thing, it's that statement is completely untrue.

EDIT: The general second person "you", not you specifically, aquatus.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:48 AM

View Postlaver, on 25 June 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

That is the whole point. The 'entire history' of the Egyptians does not explain how such an amazingly talented culture came into being so quickly. Where did this skill and knowledge come from ? It was happening at other places in the world at about the same time....

"Came into being so quickly" by whose estimation? The Ancient Egyptians were making mastabas, the precursors of pyramids, from late predynastic times. Which means they had 600+ years of experience under their belt in construction technologies/techniques. That's hardly "so quickly".

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:29 AM

View Postjaylemurph, on 26 June 2013 - 01:48 AM, said:

Hmmm. Sorry, sir. If my time here has taught me any one thing, it's that statement is completely untrue.

I...admit to letting my unfounded expectations color the reality in front of me.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:31 AM

View Postdocyabut2, on 26 June 2013 - 01:11 AM, said:

Sorry but I don`nt see any thing wrong in my repeated  questions of the sphinx being there before khafe`s buildings.

What is wrong is the refusal to acknowledge the responses given to you and ignoring the questions asked of you.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:27 PM

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If this picture is correct ,the cause way was built at angle  over a quarry formation,  the same quarry formation to the right, the blocks were taken out to build kharfe`s temples,however even further over to the right  that formation was the Sphinx`s but what to say that formation was not already carved as a sphinx  ?


http://www.aeraweb.o...fres-monuments/


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:40 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 27 June 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

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If this picture is correct ,the cause way was built at angle  over a quarry formation,  the same quarry formation to the right, the blocks were taken out to build kharfe`s temples,however even further over to the right  that formation was the Sphinx`s but what to say that formation was not already carved as a sphinx  ?


http://www.aeraweb.o...fres-monuments/

The limestone used to build Khafre's temple, which is in front of the Sphinx, was taken out of the Sphinx Enclosure and not Khufu's quarry. Which means that until Khafre's temple was complete, which was after Khafre's pyramid, the only thing that would be noticed as a future part of the Sphinx would have been a nob of limestone which would eventually become the head.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:21 AM

View Postdocyabut2, on 26 June 2013 - 01:11 AM, said:

Sorry but I don`nt see any thing wrong in my repeated  questions of the sphinx being there before khafe`s buildings.

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I have to admit, I understand aquatus1's frustration. I share it. As aquatus1 mentioned earlier, several of us have provided answers yet you continue to ask the exact same questions—as though in expectation that our answers will change. Several times now I have posted links to the research conclusions of the Giza Plateau Mapping Project, but it seems clear to me you haven't perused any of their web pages.

I've already read their entire site, so I'm not posting the links for my own benefit. Mind you, their conclusions are based on diligent scientific and archaeological investigations which span many years. Were you to read the web pages carefully, most if not all of the questions you've asked would've been answered for you.

But you keep asking the same questions. Hence our frustration.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:42 AM

Nope, what is up there now , was not the "original", suposedly, but not being an "expert' in all things made in Egypt, I had read somehwere, no idea where, that the original head was that modeled after that of an African male lion. :w00t:  Yeah, I know but since I wasn''t around when the darn thing was created, I can only  go by what I read and hope the authors have some degree of 'honesty' in their presentation. :yes:

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