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#31    Mr.United_Nations

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:24 AM

View PostMiskatonicGrad, on 08 May 2013 - 01:49 AM, said:

I think we should just shoot ALL the prisoners and start over. maybe we can learn from our mistakes?
Now that would be some sort of genocide


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:29 AM

View PostRafterman, on 09 May 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

And that has absolutely zip to do with who runs the prisons.  If you want full scale reform of the judicial and legal system in this country, then so be it.  Fight for that.

But don't attack an entrepreneur who figured out how to do something better and cheaper than the government could.

Lets say you own a prison. For whatever reason business is slow. You as a business owner must do something to make sure you have enough business to survive. So you greece the palms of the local judges, and suddenly people who werent going to go to jail, suddenly are. And you profit from it. Full scale reform must start with removing profit from suffering.

And did you read the story? Private prisons are not doing it better then government.

Some things are true, even if you dont believe them.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:06 PM

What government run prisons could do..

Lease out prisoners to work for private companies or work on government projects. Substitute tax payers money for cheaper labour.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:09 PM

I missed this post in my previous reply

View PostRafterman, on 09 May 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

It's not my decision to make.  It's the decision of the Bureau of Prisons or similar organizations in the various states.  If they feel it's in the best interest of the taxpayer, then so be it.


Of course it isn´t your decision to make. This is a discussion board asking for personal opinions on various subjects. So, what is your position on private prisons after reading some of the links?

View PostRafterman, on 09 May 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

IAs for the other stuff, that has nothing to do with who runs the prisons.  

Are you sure about this?

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private prison companies previously joined with lawmakers, corporations, and interest groups to advocate for privatization through the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). While no longer directly involved in ALEC, both CCA and GEO Group were previously involved with the organization at a time when it worked with members to draft model legislation impacting sentencing policy and prison privatization. CCA’s involvement in the 1990s went as far as chairing the ALEC Criminal Justice Task Force and having its senior director of business development serve as the private sector task force chair when a series of tough-on-crime proposals were drafted. CCA and Wackenhut (GEO) were acknowledged by ALEC in 1999 for their substantial contributions to the organization. ALEC’s past model policies have included mandatory minimum sentences, three strikes laws, and truth-in-sentencing, all of which contribute to higher prison populations. More recently, ALEC has been assisting with legislation that could increase the number of people held in immigration detention facilities. Although specific information on bills concerning criminal justice is unavailable, ALEC claims that member lawmakers introduce an average of 1,000 bills based at least in part on the group’s model legislation every year. About 20 percent of these bills end up being enacted, although the proportion fell closer to 14 percent in 2009.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

View PostOrcseeker, on 10 May 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

What government run prisons could do..

Lease out prisoners to work for private companies or work on government projects. Substitute tax payers money for cheaper labour.
Sounds like a pathway to slave labor to me and a incentive to arrest more and send them to prison.  Then you won't have to hire people at a decent salary, let them go work for a fast food company.





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