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Big owie for Dems in SC


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#16    Kowalski

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

View PostRafterman, on 08 May 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Just wait until Obamacare hits with a vengeance in 2014.  The Dems should just write off 2014 now and save all of their time and energy for Hillary in 2016 and hope against hope that the coming Obamacare disaster isn't successfully linked to her - or that Bhengazi doesn't blow up any further.

I'm sure there are Republican strategists just salivating over the idea of making a TV ad with her screaming "What Difference does it Make" overlaid on footage of the consulate attack.


Look, I'm a Independent. I haven't voted for a mainstream candidate (Democrat or Republican) in the past 3 elections. But, I can see disaster looming for the Democrats if they don't wise up fast. They need to repeal Obamacare, and stop with the gun control and immigration reform. People are getting fed up. They want them to focus on the economy and on jobs. Not on this other stuff.
Just observing....


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:57 PM

View PostRafterman, on 08 May 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Just wait until Obamacare hits with a vengeance in 2014.  The Dems should just write off 2014 now and save all of their time and energy for Hillary in 2016 and hope against hope that the coming Obamacare disaster isn't successfully linked to her - or that Bhengazi doesn't blow up any further.

I'm sure there are Republican strategists just salivating over the idea of making a TV ad with her screaming "What Difference does it Make" overlaid on footage of the consulate attack.

That is why they are so desperate to get another 11 million voters on the rolls before then.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:13 AM

View PostRaptor Witness, on 08 May 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

I just hope he regrets the foolish decision to turn down federal stimulus money in a Depression, because that infuriated me. My first thought when the scandal hit, was .... good riddance.
Sanford on the unemployment increases which were part of the stimulus:

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I mean, to be eligible for some of the unemployment funds, for instance, we would for the first time have to expand unemployment benefits in South Carolina to people who are part-time workers. Now that's kind of a problem, one, because we've never done it before. But two, because that same group just went to the feds asking for $140 million loan and then followed it with a $170 million loan.

So in many cases, these are real Catch-22s when you look under the hood at the way the system would work.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.c...SqqqBPyW
He's right, of course.

Stimulus money sweeps through a state then goes away, leaving the state to deal with what to do when the money is gone.

Would you want to be the Governor when the state has to go back to not paying unemployment to part-time workers?

The way I understand it, Obamacare works in much the same way.  Three years of Federal payments for the expansion of medicaid, then that money is gone.  The state is left with having to deal with they changes in their local system they agreed to (out of greed and an eye on the bottom line) in order to get those three years of "free" money.

It's not as clear-cut as many make it out to be.  Stimulus money had to be spent in certain ways.  Ways that may not be in the long-term interest of the State, though it's not really even long-term.  It's slightly more than short-term.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:28 PM

View PostKowalski, on 08 May 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Look, I'm a Independent. I haven't voted for a mainstream candidate (Democrat or Republican) in the past 3 elections. But, I can see disaster looming for the Democrats if they don't wise up fast. They need to repeal Obamacare, and stop with the gun control and immigration reform. People are getting fed up. They want them to focus on the economy and on jobs. Not on this other stuff.
Just observing....

I agree Kowalski


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:23 PM

I think Stephen Colbert is simply a bully and even though Sanford was one of the worst choices I'm glad he won this one.





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