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Stephen Hawking Joins Israeli Academic Boycot


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#1    jugoso

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:30 PM

Renowned theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking, 71, has decided to pull out of a major conference, hosted by Shimon Peres, that Hawking was scheduled to headline in Jerusalem. Hawking said it was "his independent decision to respect the boycott, based upon his knowledge of Palestine, and on the unanimous advice of his own academic contacts there."

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

I support his right to choose but it seems improper to boycott an event that is purely about science.  He has attended other functions there so he certainly isn't an anti semite.  The very fact that he has lived with ALS for so many years has to be some kind of miracle in itself.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:48 PM

Good, glad he has. I hope the point is made more public as well.

View Postand then, on 08 May 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

I support his right to choose but it seems improper to boycott an event that is purely about science.  He has attended other functions there so he certainly isn't an anti semite.  The very fact that he has lived with ALS for so many years has to be some kind of miracle in itself.

Of course he isn't an anti semite..... It's the typical card played by the extreme Zionist Jews when they don't get their own way or when someone disagrees with them. It's like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum.


If I made up a new religion and tried to play a card like that, everyone would laugh at me. But since WW2 and the nasty stuff the Nazi's did the Jews have had that card.

Edited by Coffey, 08 May 2013 - 01:50 PM.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:52 PM

View Postand then, on 08 May 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

I support his right to choose but it seems improper to boycott an event that is purely about science.

How is it improper? It´s his way of demonstartting his feelings about what is happening there.

View Postand then, on 08 May 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

He has attended other functions there so he certainly isn't an anti semite.  

No he isn´t. But everyone has their line in the sand and I guess his has finally been crossed

View Postand then, on 08 May 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

  The very fact that he has lived with ALS for so many years has to be some kind of miracle in itself.

Yes it is. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:47 PM

View Postand then, on 08 May 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

I support his right to choose but it seems improper to boycott an event that is purely about science.  He has attended other functions there so he certainly isn't an anti semite.  The very fact that he has lived with ALS for so many years has to be some kind of miracle in itself.
I do hope it's possible for someone to say that they object to the Israeli govt's policies and actions without having to worry about being labeled an anti Semite.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:32 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 08 May 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

I do hope it's possible for someone to say that they object to the Israeli govt's policies and actions without having to worry about being labeled an anti Semite.
It absolutely is possible and happens regularly.  I reserve the term myself for only the most obvious, egregious cases.  Antisemitism is not disagreement with the policies of Israel's government, it's the hatred of Jews just for being Jews.  In my opinion there are a couple of those here at UM but it isn't my place to call them out.  Most here are genuinely angry about the mistreatment of the Palestinians, have joined on the bandwagon of public hue and cry and find it fashionable to decry the "oppression and apartheid" policies of the Israeli government.  My chief issue with them is that they have no sense of balance or fairness regarding cause and effect in this conflict.  EVERYTHING is Israel's fault.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:14 PM

"critics say he should stop using Israeli technology in computer equipment that allows him to communicate"

""Hawking's decision to join the boycott of Israel is quite hypocritical for an individual who prides himself on his whole intellectual accomplishment. His whole computer-based communications system runs on a chip designed by Israel's Intel team. I suggest if he truly wants to pull out of Israel he should also pull out his Intel Core i7 from his tablet," said Nitsana Darshan-Leitner of Shurat HaDin."


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:41 PM

View Postredhen, on 09 May 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

"critics say he should stop using Israeli technology in computer equipment that allows him to communicate"

""Hawking's decision to join the boycott of Israel is quite hypocritical for an individual who prides himself on his whole intellectual accomplishment. His whole computer-based communications system runs on a chip designed by Israel's Intel team. I suggest if he truly wants to pull out of Israel he should also pull out his Intel Core i7 from his tablet," said Nitsana Darshan-Leitner of Shurat HaDin."
And that just shows that the Israeli scientific community is not spiteful or vindictive in any way, doesn't it.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:48 PM

View Postredhen, on 09 May 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

""Hawking's decision to join the boycott of Israel is quite hypocritical for an individual who prides himself on his whole intellectual accomplishment. His whole computer-based communications system runs on a chip designed by Israel's Intel team. I suggest if he truly wants to pull out of Israel he should also pull out his Intel Core i7 from his tablet," said Nitsana Darshan-Leitner of Shurat HaDin."

LOL, like some thing out of a sketch show.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:55 PM

View Postredhen, on 09 May 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

"critics say he should stop using Israeli technology in computer equipment that allows him to communicate"

""Hawking's decision to join the boycott of Israel is quite hypocritical for an individual who prides himself on his whole intellectual accomplishment. His whole computer-based communications system runs on a chip designed by Israel's Intel team. I suggest if he truly wants to pull out of Israel he should also pull out his Intel Core i7 from his tablet," said Nitsana Darshan-Leitner of Shurat HaDin."

It might have been made in Israel, but Intel is an American corporation. Otherwise I would agree with the logic.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:00 PM

Trying to claim the i7 for Israel was a bit spanky I must admit.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:01 PM

View PostExpandMyMind, on 09 May 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

It might have been made in Israel, but Intel is an American corporation. Otherwise I would agree with the logic.
Actually, I think there's a flaw in their argument. They say "Hawking's decision to join the boycott of Israel is quite hypocritical for an individual who prides himself on his whole intellectual accomplishment", but Intel didn't help with his intellectual accomplishment; that was all his own work. Where they helped was to help him communicate it; his intellectual accomplishment had nothing to do with israel. And by their argument, China might just as well claim credit for the accomplishments of American technology, mightn't they, since a lot of it was probably made there.

Edited by Colonel Rhuairidh, 09 May 2013 - 08:01 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:28 PM

View Postjugoso, on 08 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:



How is it improper? It´s his way of demonstartting his feelings about what is happening there.



No he isn´t. But everyone has their line in the sand and I guess his has finally been crossed



Yes it is. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism.

So I take it your all for the hundreds of rockets fired into isreal and don't think they should defend themselves.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:22 AM

View Postdanielost, on 09 May 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

So I take it your all for the hundreds of rockets fired into isreal and don't think they should defend themselves.
A small minority of the rockets came from Gaza, yet Gaza is under siege and the West Bank, Golan Heights, Lebanon, the Sinai, and Syria are not.   Obviously, "the hundreds of rockets" are no excuse for treating some Palestinians any differently.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

View Postdanielost, on 09 May 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

So I take it your all for the hundreds of rockets fired into isreal and don't think they should defend themselves.
In a word - YES.  This is exactly what they think.  There can be no other conclusion, though they are not ethical enough to be honest and say what the intent is.  These are the same kind of people who shook their heads and maybe uttered just a tsk,tsk when they heard and saw the results of the kristallnacht.  "Unfortunate - but after all, don't they deserve it?"

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