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#16    Babe Ruth

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:26 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 10 May 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

Cannot believe all the bleeding over of conspiracy theories.

This definitely belongs in the conspiracy theory section.

The title of the thread states she was committed. She was not "committed" which means being forced to go to the insane asylum or other treatment center.

The OP in the thread is from Alex Jones' website.

No mainstream sources on google news can be found that claims she was sentenced to therapy.

The link provided by Left-Field is from a reporter in the UK and he probably got his information from Alex Jones' site.

If the question is: Why are no other mainstream news sites reporting that she was sentenced to therapy?

If the answer is: Because mainstream news sites are hiding the truth...

Then that is a conspiracy theory!!!

I used the word "committed" to mean that she was ordered by the court to undergo counseling.  Not that she was placed in an institution, but that the government had ordered her to undergo counseling, when her actual charge was tax related.

I find that a dangerous precedent.  By that same logic, if a person were charged with theft for example, in addition to whatever sentence he might receive for his crime, if the court did not like what he might have said in court, he could be given an additional punishment for what he said or views that he held.  No violence, just political views.

I did not see any conspiracy involved at all, and put the thread in the Psychology section, thinking it relevant.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

OK. On closer inspection Alex Jones also got his information from the IBTimes.

No mainstream news source lists this story. All these websites link back to the IBTimes link that Left-Field posted.

This website lists the source as IBTimes at the very end of the article.

http://www.activistp...t=1368147609479

This one lists IBTimes in the second paragraph.

http://vigilantcitiz...iracy-theories/

This one also has the source as International Business Times in the second paragraph.

http://www.opposingv...ry-exploitation

This one has it in the "Hill was sentenced" link under the video.

http://www.infowars....or-lauryn-hill/

Same as above.

http://www.prisonpla...auryn-hill.html

This is definitely a conspiracy theory. No one is being forced into counseling for their belief in conspiracy theories.

Also being "committed" only has one clear definition in English when it comes to mental health. It means being forced into an institution.

Edited by Leave Britney alone!, 10 May 2013 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:50 PM

Lauren is not in jail and she paid $500,000 for back taxes last week .She justa $1,000.000 dollar deal with Sony. Lauren is not crazy just have been through some things and if you had her status you would know how the entertainment game is. L's new song is out and yes the words are shocking but tru. With fame you pay a price and it goes deeper than recouping it recoups your soul if you let it.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:27 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 10 May 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

OK. On closer inspection Alex Jones also got his information from the IBTimes.

No mainstream news source lists this story. All these websites link back to the IBTimes link that Left-Field posted.

This website lists the source as IBTimes at the very end of the article.

http://www.activistp...t=1368147609479

This one lists IBTimes in the second paragraph.

http://vigilantcitiz...iracy-theories/

This one also has the source as International Business Times in the second paragraph.

http://www.opposingv...ry-exploitation

This one has it in the "Hill was sentenced" link under the video.

http://www.infowars....or-lauryn-hill/

Same as above.

http://www.prisonpla...auryn-hill.html

This is definitely a conspiracy theory. No one is being forced into counseling for their belief in conspiracy theories.

Also being "committed" only has one clear definition in English when it comes to mental health. It means being forced into an institution.

I'm a little bit confused as to your position on this.  Are you claiming she was NOT ordered to undergo counseling?  Are you claiming the counseling is optional and not mandatory?  Are you claiming the counseling is related to her tax charges?

Who conspired with whom?


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:44 PM

I am claiming no mainstream news source claims she was ordered to go to counseling because of her conspiracy theories.

That only one, which is not very mainstream, I have never heard of it, IBTimes? All the other conspiracy theory websites point back to IBTimes...

The conspiracy theory websites are the only sites disussing that.

It is thus seems like a conspiracy theory.

And it is there in order to make people fear that they will be committed or forced to go to counseling because of their conspiracy theories.

Most conspiracy theories are meant to make you fearful, not all, many are.

Most mainstream news is supposed to simply inform you. You might get mad sure, but it is not alarmist by nature.

Edited by Leave Britney alone!, 10 May 2013 - 01:46 PM.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:55 PM

View Postslaughtr, on 10 May 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

Lauren is not in jail and she paid $500,000 for back taxes last week .She justa $1,000.000 dollar deal with Sony. Lauren is not crazy just have been through some things and if you had her status you would know how the entertainment game is. L's new song is out and yes the words are shocking but tru. With fame you pay a price and it goes deeper than recouping it recoups your soul if you let it.
Not paying taxes because your ancestors were slaves is completely rational.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:10 PM

The Mis-Education of Lauryn Hill is one of my favourite and one of the best albums ever produced.

I thought I would post her new single with lyrics...



Although I agree with her messages, I'm not sure I'm feeling the vibe and think the music production is a bit of a mess.

Edited by Stundie, 10 May 2013 - 02:10 PM.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 10 May 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

I am claiming no mainstream news source claims she was ordered to go to counseling because of her conspiracy theories.

That only one, which is not very mainstream, I have never heard of it, IBTimes? All the other conspiracy theory websites point back to IBTimes...

The conspiracy theory websites are the only sites disussing that.

It is thus seems like a conspiracy theory.

And it is there in order to make people fear that they will be committed or forced to go to counseling because of their conspiracy theories.

Most conspiracy theories are meant to make you fearful, not all, many are.

Most mainstream news is supposed to simply inform you. You might get mad sure, but it is not alarmist by nature.

Most mainstream new is supposed to simply inform you OF THE PROPER WAY TO THINK.  It is meant to shape the viewer's world view in accordance with an official narrative.

Hence the popularity of alternate news sources amongst those who prefer to think independently.

You and I use "conspiracy" in different senses.  Conspiracy theories are not meant to scare people, they spontaneously arise when it seems like the government is telling yet another story.

I don't see the Lauren Hill thing as a conspiracy in any way, but I admit that it appears to advance the agenda that dissent and unorthodox views are to be suppressed by agencies of the state.  Orwell talked about it.





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