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#31    EllJay



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 02:35 PM

Here is another one put forward as the murder: Jacob Levy


Jacob Levy

Jacob Levy was born in Aldgate in 1856 to Joseph and Caroline Levy, his father, being a butcher at 111 Middlesex Street, Spitalfields, it was a trade his son would subsequently follow him into. In 1881 Jacob Levy was listed as living at 11 Fieldgate Street, Whitechapel, with his wife Sarah, and their two children. In 1886 he was committed to the Essex County asylum after complaining of hearing strange noises and saying that he felt compelled to do acts that his conscience could not stand, he also felt that if he was not restrained, he will do acts of violence to someone.

In 1888 Levy was listed as living at 36 Middlesex Street, with his wife and children. On 15 August 1890 he was taken to the City of London lunatic asylum Stone in Kent, and admitted as an insane person, his occupation was noted as butcher and the cause of his illness was listed as mania. He was described as in good health, his height was given as 5ft 3"tall and his weight as 9 stone 3 pounds. Levy died of paralysis brought on by the disease syphilis on 29 July 1891.

Originally there were no effective treatments for syphilis, the commonest treatment in use being mercury, this use of mercury gave rise to the saying, a night in the arms of venus leads to a lifetime on mercury.
Jacob Levy is rarely mentioned as a serious Ripper suspect, yet fitted the eyewitness descriptions of the young short stout suspect. As a butcher he was skilled with a knife, and having contracted syphilis was undoubtedly familiar with the local prostitutes. He was familiar with the local area and may have been the city police suspect Detective Constable Robert Sagar referred to when he said, 'We had good reason to suspect a man who worked in Butcher's Row, Aldgate. We watched him carefully, there is no doubt that this man was insane, and after a time his friends thought it advisable to have him removed to a private asylum. After he was removed, there were no more Ripper atrocities'.

There is the possibility that the man seen by Joseph Hyam Levy with Catherine Eddowes shortly before she was murdered, which caused him to become alarmed, was Jacob Levy.
Joseph Hyam Levy was a butcher who worked at 1Hutchinson Street. Jacob Levy was a butcher at 111 Middlesex Street, a mere 60 yards away, so it is quite possible that Joseph Hyam Levy knew Jacob Levy and may have recognized him that night with Catherine Eddowes.
Was Joseph Hyam Levy, Anderson's witness, who would not testify against fellow Jew, Jacob Levy.



Edited by EllJay, 25 July 2013 - 02:35 PM.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:45 PM

View PostCuriousLittleOne, on 09 May 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

THIS could be the face of serial killer Jack the Ripper, according to forensic experts.
Police put together the e-fit from witness statements as part of a probe into the murderer for TV.
And officers believe today's techniques would have nailed the man who butchered prostitutes in Victorian London.
Met police re-examined the killings. Former Deputy Commissioner John Grieve created the e-fit. He said: "There's a misconception nobody saw the killer. That's not the case."
Jack the Ripper: The First Serial Killer - on Five tomorrow at 8pm - claims he was from an ordinary background, blowing the myth he might have been royal.

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interesting that they think he was "hispanic"  when this was 1880 britian, most people were white.

and a nice little website : http://www.antisuper...jackripper.html

A great deal of speculation has surrounded a recent Channel 5 programme which purported to show the face of Jack the Ripper. Experts, so the program claimed, had examined 13 statements taken from witnesses who may have seen Jack the Ripper with his victims shortly before their bodies were discovered and had come up with an image of the the face of Jack the Ripper. Laura Richards, head of analysis at Scotland Yard’s violent crime unit, which conducted the study, said: ‘For the first time, we are able to understand the kind of person Jack the Ripper was. We can name the street where lived, what he looked like and we can explain, finally, why he eluded justice.’ The experts included former Metropolitan Police Commander John Grieve (the same John Grieve it should be said who told Patricia Cornwall that Walter Sickert, the artist, was an “interesting chap you might want to check out.”)

( i really reccomend this site : http://www.jack-the-...the-ripper where the above text came from, relly worth the look)

Around 5'6,clean shaven,30'ish,hispanic looking,by god that George Zimmerman is one crafty fellow,been commiting atrocities since the 1880's  :lol:

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:49 PM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 25 July 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Around 5'6,clean shaven,30'ish,hispanic looking,by god that George Zimmerman is one crafty fellow,been commiting atrocities since the 1880's  :lol:


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

I find it more likely that he was from a lower class background than a member of the aristocracy, but unless the police actually did figure out at the time who it was, and have the file locked away somewhere, then we will never know who it was now, where they were from or what they looked like.  But every few years you do get someone proposing some new hypothesis regarding the culprit, but as far as I'm concerned, it's just entertaining speculation mixed with pure bunk.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:25 AM

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Or English people didn't know what an American tan looked like. I still think it was H.H. Holmes. The timeline fits, the knowledge of medical procedures fits, it even fits with his not actively killing in the US while he was away. It all fits.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:19 AM

No it doesn't.


Serial killers rarely change their MO. Some do but not Jack.

He's not gonna morph into a dude preying on women for their life savings then killing them in his mansion.

Jack wasn't into money. Holmes was, besides the fact he enjoyed watching women die.

And that's another difference. Holmes wasn't hands on. Jack was.

No serial killer changes that much.

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