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#1    AlasBabylon

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:39 PM

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May 9, 2013


US Ambassador Makes Secret Crossing Into Syria to Briefly Meet With Rebels


" U.S. Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford briefly crossed into northern Syria
on Thursday to meet with Syrian opposition leaders.

It is Fordís first visit back to Syria since he left in February, 2012,
when the U.S. embassy suspended operations in Damascus.... "

http://abcnews.go.co...et-with-rebels/



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:51 PM

Considering the respect they have for US ambassadors these days, he seems a brave soul.  I wonder what kind of aid package he was delivering or negotiating?

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:07 PM

I thought the US doesnt negotiate with terrorists. But they will meet and deal with "rebels" who fight under an Al qaeda flag? Makes you wonder how long they have been dealing with terrorists in secret.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:23 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 10 May 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:



I thought the US doesnt negotiate with terrorists. But they will meet and deal with "rebels" who fight under an Al qaeda flag? Makes you wonder how long they have been dealing with terrorists in secret.




It's a risky business... consorting with terrorists... if you could, just ask General Lebed.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:27 PM

Not secret anymore


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:57 PM

I sometimes wonder if the current US admin is REALLY sinister or just breath takingly inept.  These seem to be our choices.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:26 AM

there are a lot of details to work out  ,  like,   what do you need to take control of the country ?  and,  what do  "WE"  get for it when the new government is installed ?
It's all done in the spirit of international cooperation and  avarice

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:21 AM

View Postlightly, on 11 May 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

there are a lot of details to work out  ,  like,   what do you need to take control of the country ?  and,  what do  "WE"  get for it when the new government is installed ?
It's all done in the spirit of international cooperation and  avarice
Yeah, I get the whole greed and corporate evil angle in general but... what is it that Syria has that anyone needs?

Edited by and then, 11 May 2013 - 02:21 AM.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:18 AM

View Postand then, on 11 May 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:


Yeah, I get the whole greed and corporate evil angle in general but... what is it that Syria has that anyone needs?



The Ark of the Covenant ?

Some Muslims say when the Mahdi is revealed he will have the Ark
that some say was hidden in Lake Tiberias [Sea if Galilee.] Syria
once possessed part of the shoreline... but has since been cut off
entirely by Israeli occupation.

I disagree with that theory... my studies show the Ark was hidden
in Elam [now part of Iran.]



" He is called the Mahdi because he will guide people to a mountain in Syria
from which he will bring out the volumes of the Torah to refute the Jews.

At the hands of the Mahdi, the Ark of the Covenant will be brought forth
at Lake Tiberias and taken and placed in Jerusalem."


http://hadithprophes...imam-mahdi.html



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:20 AM

View PostAlasBabylon, on 11 May 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

The Ark of the Covenant ?

Some Muslims say when the Mahdi is revealed he will have the Ark
that some say was hidden in Lake Tiberias [Sea if Galilee.] Syria
once possessed part of the shoreline... but has since been cut off
entirely by Israeli occupation.

I disagree with that theory... my studies show the Ark was hidden
in Elam [now part of Iran.]



" He is called the Mahdi because he will guide people to a mountain in Syria
from which he will bring out the volumes of the Torah to refute the Jews.

At the hands of the Mahdi, the Ark of the Covenant will be brought forth
at Lake Tiberias and taken and placed in Jerusalem."


http://hadithprophes...imam-mahdi.html



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These same prophecies or eschatology speak of Jesus coming to a mosque in Damascus, taking a subservient position to the "rightly guided one" and killing Christians and Jews who will not convert, breaking crosses and killing swine.  For the record, I don't believe any of THAT stuff either.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:46 PM

View Postand then, on 12 May 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:


These same prophecies or eschatology speak of Jesus coming to a mosque in Damascus, taking a subservient position to the "rightly guided one" and killing Christians and Jews who will not convert, breaking crosses and killing swine.  For the record, I don't believe any of THAT stuff either.





Interesting... do you have a link to those prophecies ?

I never understood why any religion would force the "conversion" of their enemy.
Seems to me that would create a fifth column that would destroy the religion from within.




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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:18 PM

View PostAlasBabylon, on 12 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Interesting... do you have a link to those prophecies ?

I never understood why any religion would force the "conversion" of their enemy.
Seems to me that would create a fifth column that would destroy the religion from within.




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Main source is a book by Joel Richardson that explains a theory that the antichrist will actually be Muslim.  Entitled THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST -  the title makes the book seem like a polemic, but it actually is a very balanced and well documented book that explains a great deal about the holy texts of Islam - both the Qur'an and the Hadith literature.  It is a very good primer for someone unschooled in Islam.  The actual source he quotes for Isa (Jesus) returning to Damascus is http://www.hadithcol...umber-7015.html
I recommend the book highly.  His thesis on the final battle between good and evil sums up a world struggling between Christian and Muslim views of the "last days".  If one lists the attributes of the AntiChrist and puts them next to the attributes of the Mahdi of Islam   the two are nearly identical.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 10 May 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

I thought the US doesnt negotiate with terrorists. But they will meet and deal with "rebels" who fight under an Al qaeda flag? Makes you wonder how long they have been dealing with terrorists in secret.

Not all the rebel groups are working with al Qaeda. The rebel movement is hardly a united front and there are several non-terrorist groups that could have been involved in the meeting.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 05:52 AM

View PostCorp, on 14 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Not all the rebel groups are working with al Qaeda. The rebel movement is hardly a united front and there are several non-terrorist groups that could have been involved in the meeting.

It reeks bud.  





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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:26 AM

I don't think it's exaggerating to say that to a degree, Libya has transformed into Al Qaeda.  Benghazi was probably AQ's Global HQ before the Euro & DC Dumbkins decided that Gaddafi had to go.   Thugs murdered bad old Gaddafi in the streets after he was already gushing blood from multiple wounds to the head.   Putting him in jail to stand trial apparently wasn't an option for them.  

What's our response?   "These are people we can work with!"   What's next?   Are we going to subsidize the terrorists in Libya too?

Oh wait.  Oil is there.  Exxon Mobil is here.   Derp.

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