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#106    Sakari

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

If anyone wants to know what plane it is....Just use this.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:01 PM

OK a sizable article I found which I shall quote some good paragraphs

FBI spy planes patrol U.S.

WASHINGTON - The FBI has a fleet of aircraft, some equipped with night surveillance and eavesdropping equipment, flying America's skies to track and collect intelligence from suspected terrorists.

The FBI will not provide exact figures on the planes and helicopters, but more than 80 are in the skies. There are several planes, known as "Nightstalkers," equipped with infrared devices that allow agents to track people and vehicles in the dark.

Other aircraft are outfitted with electronic surveillance equipment so agents can pursue listening devices placed in cars, in buildings and even along streets, or listen to cell phone calls. Still others fly photography missions, although officials would not describe precise capabilities.

"You want to watch activity, and you want to do it discreetly. You don't want to be sitting around in cars," said Weldon Kennedy, a former FBI deputy director who retired in 1997 after 33 years with the bureau. "Aviation is one way to do that. You don't need to get close to that person at all."

Some critics say the surveillance technology further blurs the boundaries on domestic spying. They point to a 2001 case in which the Supreme Court found police had engaged in an unreasonable search by using thermal imaging equipment to detect heat lamps used to grow marijuana plants indoors.

Most aircraft are propeller-driven civilian models, favored for their relatively slow speed and unobtrusive appearance.

Legally, no warrants are necessary for the FBI to track cars or people from the air. Law enforcement officials need warrants to search homes or to plant listening devices or monitor cell phone calls - and that includes when the listener is flying in an airplane.

A senior FBI official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FBI does not do flyovers to listen to telephone calls and gather electronic data from random citizens in hopes the data will provide leads. Rather, the planes are used to follow specific individuals, some of whom may already have been bugged or for whom the FBI has a warrant to listen to cell phone calls.

and wait for it!!!!

The FBI will not disclose where the planes are being used. This month, however, in the college town of Bloomington, Ind., residents spotted a Cessna aircraft flying overhead at roughly the same times every day for more than a week.

After first issuing denials, local FBI agents admitted it was their plane, involved in a terrorism investigation.

http://www.timeshera...anes-patrol-u-s


Anyone know about the Bloomington story with same activity? I cant be bothered to look it up...

Edited by seeder, 13 May 2013 - 05:31 PM.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:03 PM

HTTP://WWW.wired.com/threatleval/2006/06/mystery_planes_/



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:07 PM

HTTP://twitter.com/alertnewengland/status/235019282705170432
  "FBI Cessna Skyhawk N906TM inbound to Norwood Memorial Airport 5/10/13 03:45pm"


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:08 PM

View Postluckyguy, on 13 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

and I keep on forgetting to say this, but what has this thread got to do with ET/UFO section, when it has been identified as a regular plane from the outset?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:33 PM

View Postseeder, on 13 May 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

and I keep on forgetting to say this, but what has this thread got to do with ET/UFO section, when it has been identified as a regular plane from the outset?

That is a good question, I would say absolutely nothing....

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:38 PM

View Postseeder, on 13 May 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

It wasnt anything I personally wrote. If you re-read it - its simply a quote from another forum poster. As also stated, I was looking for a potential link between the smell and the plane

I thought it was a joke.  That's pretty funny too.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:54 PM

View Postluckyguy, on 13 May 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

HTTP://twitter.com/alertnewengland/status/235019282705170432
  "FBI Cessna Skyhawk N906TM inbound to Norwood Memorial Airport 5/10/13 03:45pm"
So have they confirmed that it is FBI, or is that more supposition? In any case, if it is, then no one needs to worry, do they, because they're just guarding law and Order.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:04 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 13 May 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

So have they confirmed that it is FBI, or is that more supposition? In any case, if it is, then no one needs to worry, do they, because they're just guarding law and Order.

clicking on the links I gave previously, shows who owns what, N906TM is owned by the company known as: RKT PRODUCTIONS. But N1132F states clearly its the FBI plane, click the links and read the titles in top of box on right of page

http://uk.flightawar...e/flight/N906TM

http://uk.flightawar...e/flight/N1132F


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Edited by seeder, 13 May 2013 - 06:07 PM.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:33 PM

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Thanks for the info on the Quincy mystery odor that appears
to have began around the time the mystery plane began its rounds.



" Maybe occasionally you get bad smells, but it was never this constant,
six weeks of this now"...



Wonder if anything of interest is at this intersection ?


"The mysterious odor a potent mix of sulfur and rotten eggs   hits the nose
at the intersection of Quincy Shore Drive and East Squantum Street. "


http://www.patriotle...uincy-a-mystery




Sulfur and rotten egg smell could be coming from unstable methane hydrates off shore...
that was the supposed origin of a recent similar mystery smell in So Cal.


" Coastal Stench May By Byproduct Of Large Release Of Methane

March 3, 2013

SANTA MONICA (CBSLA.com) Authorities say a foul odor that spurred calls
to fire departments throughout the city on Sunday is possibly the result
of the large release of methane in the Santa Monica Bay. "


http://losangeles.cb...ase-of-methane/




Unstable methane hydrates can also cause undersea landslides.

http://en.wikipedia..../Storegga_Slide



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Edited by AlasBabylon, 13 May 2013 - 06:44 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:38 PM

NM ... info already posted ...

Edited by Kludge808, 13 May 2013 - 06:40 PM.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:44 PM

View PostAlasBabylon, on 13 May 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

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" Maybe occasionally you get bad smells, but it was never this constant,
six weeks of this now"...



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well its good to know you actually read the posts in your own thread and so are familiar with whats been stated already..

first post
http://www.unexplain...ic=247762&st=90



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Edited by seeder, 13 May 2013 - 06:44 PM.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:48 PM

View Postseeder, on 13 May 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:



well its good to know you actually read the posts in your own thread and so are familiar with whats been stated already..

first post
http://www.unexplain...ic=247762&st=90





Yes, I read that previously...  and since you read my post so throughly...
you know I was thankful for that info.




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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:57 PM

View PostSakari, on 13 May 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

If anyone wants to know what plane it is....Just use this.


http://www.flightradar24.com/
My husband has it on his app. We are in England so would not have picked up that plane. But the "gadget" is wicked, it tells us where the plane is going, how fast its going, how high up it is, and if we point the tablet at the plane it tells us the flight number and everthing....pretty amazing stuff.

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