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Dear Jodi, try mindfulness techniques (poem)


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#1    Avatar Samantha Ai

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:46 PM

you said you wanted to die
knowing that it's easier
than spending lifetimes
all alone again

didn't know you at all
no one ever did
some called you friend
but you never felt it

every year you found
a different crowd
inner thoughts so loud
saying you don't belong

parents never there
when you wanted them
blending in so well
but who am I?

is something you
or I will never know
village burn so bright
can't trust them

afraid to move
monster I've become
no one can save me
at the borderline


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:59 PM

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe, just maybe this woman is a psychopath?  I don't care HOW the guy may have abused her, to do what she did in the way she did requires a certain level of mental brokenness.  If he was such an animal to her then why did she not walk away?  Gunshot to the face, stabbed 27 times...uhhh that's TWENTY SEVEN TIMES and the coup de grace I guess was slitting his throat from ear to ear.  Only I cannot imagine that he even bled from that wound.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:46 AM

I was gonna write something.....  but I'm not good at poetry.

So I'll stick to prose. I think you may be right, mindfulness training would be good for her right about now.

From the Satipatthana Sutta , specifically The Nine Cemetery Contemplations

"(1) And further, monks, as if a monk sees a body dead one, two, or three days; swollen, blue and festering, thrown in the charnel ground, he then applies this perception to his own body thus: "Verily, also my own body is of the same nature; such it will become and will not escape it."

(2) And further, monks, as if a monk sees a body thrown in the charnel ground, being eaten by crows, hawks, vultures, dogs, jackals or by different kinds of worms, he then applies this perception to his own body thus: "Verily, also my own body is of the same nature; such it will become and will not escape it.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:58 PM

View Postredhen, on 14 May 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

I was gonna write something.....  but I'm not good at poetry.

So I'll stick to prose. I think you may be right, mindfulness training would be good for her right about now.

From the Satipatthana Sutta , specifically The Nine Cemetery Contemplations

"(1) And further, monks, as if a monk sees a body dead one, two, or three days; swollen, blue and festering, thrown in the charnel ground, he then applies this perception to his own body thus: "Verily, also my own body is of the same nature; such it will become and will not escape it."

(2) And further, monks, as if a monk sees a body thrown in the charnel ground, being eaten by crows, hawks, vultures, dogs, jackals or by different kinds of worms, he then applies this perception to his own body thus: "Verily, also my own body is of the same nature; such it will become and will not escape it.

etc....

Those are pretty morbid and deep.

Correct me if I am wrong, mindfulness is something different than those cemetery contemplations, but both are forms of meditation?

Very interesting either way and thanks for sharing. The women in France who fell from a cliff in the Pyrenees comes to mind with them. What happened to her body?

It is one thing to just put yourself as a spectator but quite another to imagine being her. This type of empathy is exactly what I was going for with this piece as well but as a sufferer of borderline myself it is that much easier to personally understand.

When are you going to share your prose with us? From the way you are informed it is sure to prove interesting as well.

Edited by Leave Britney alone!, 14 May 2013 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 01:19 AM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 14 May 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

Correct me if I am wrong, mindfulness is something different than those cemetery contemplations, but both are forms of meditation?

The cemetery contemplations are part of mindfulness of the body, one of the four foundations of mindfulness. These four foundations have been said to be the heart of Buddhist meditation.

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Very interesting either way and thanks for sharing. The women in France who fell from a cliff in the Pyrenees comes to mind with them. What happened to her body?

Don't know, I assume some official had to go down and collect the bones.

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It is one thing to just put yourself as a spectator but quite another to imagine being her. This type of empathy is exactly what I was going for with this piece as well but as a sufferer of borderline myself it is that much easier to personally understand.

That's the way I came to see it as well. Although my initial gut reaction was to relate it something odious, like An ode to Jeffrey Dahmer.

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When are you going to share your prose with us? From the way you are informed it is sure to prove interesting as well.

I thought that's what I was doing, writing in straight forward, natural sounding language, aka prose.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:12 AM

I like that concept and approach of always offering prose.

For "what happened to her body?" I meant it as a thought for one to imagine "what happened to her body?" then to go on and imagine being that body ourselves.

The cemetery contemplations made me think of that.

Not sure it would be a form of mindfulness I would want to practice overall, due to the morbidity of it all, and because as a Westerner am a bit unsure how to use it, but just knowing about it does make one think more about life now and what a gift it is, so definite thanks, again, for sharing.

Still think you should write something up for us specifically to share in the writers and artists section. I just know we would appreciate it. The things you could share with us would be something of value, just have a strong feeling about it.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:18 AM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 15 May 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

Not sure it would be a form of mindfulness I would want to practice overall, due to the morbidity of it all, and because as a Westerner am a bit unsure how to use it, but just knowing about it does make one think more about life now and what a gift it is, so definite thanks, again, for sharing.

CBT, DBT, MBSTR (Mindfulness based stress reduction) all seem to have Buddhist Satipatthana or Vipassana meditation as a source. But some academics see ancient Greek Stoic influences. They both appear very similar, especially in terms of using bare attention, or as a Stoic would say How to deal with the semblances of things.

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Still think you should write something up for us specifically to share in the writers and artists section. I just know we would appreciate it. The things you could share with us would be something of value, just have a strong feeling about it.

argh, I can't write fiction at all. I don't have an artistic bone in my body, lol. Maybe a non-academic essay or something.





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