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#1    Raptor Witness

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:50 AM

It's a simple question, but no one seems to be asking it.

Will the two witnesses in Revelation be considered terrorists?

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:09 AM

Such would be denying "god's will" as all-knowing.
Hence most religion's would backflip on themselves if it happened like that.

To be honest I think there is a few "prophets" in an insane asylum nobody knows about. Place or person take your pick. It only took what... 50 years to answer allegations of other forms of intelligent life and change their views. Considering "god" created angels, demons, levianthans which would be considered as intelligent lifeforms of existance.
I'm not a big mainstream religion fan, but the older stuff to me seems to have a sense of worth.

why is everyone so &^%$ing concerned with "the end"...
new beginnings is what you should be concerned about...

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:17 AM

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The two witnesses of Rev 11 have come and gone.

They aren't just two individuals... they are the two sets...
two groups... of martyrs  [the word martyr means witness]
in the fifth seal.

However each is identified by its leader [neither leader's
body was properly buried.]

God's two witnesses have come and been martyred... their blood
[symbolically] cries out to God to avenge their deaths.

Btw... there is a very important reason there are TWO...
because God's Law requires the testimony of at least TWO
witnesses before judgment can be decreed and executed.


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Edited by AlasBabylon, 14 May 2013 - 08:40 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:20 AM

 Raptor Witness, on 14 May 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:



It's a simple question, but no one seems to be asking it.

Will the two witnesses in Revelation be considered terrorists?




They have come and gone... and today, they are still maligned by their murderers.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:03 AM

Or characters of a book.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

On earth, the judge has the power to protect all witnesses called before the court.

In Heaven, we know the Judge, the Advocate, and the Prosecutor.

On earth, the judge use the prosecutor's arm and law enforcement to protect all witnesses.

So I expect the terror from Heaven in this case, to be very great indeed.

To argue that this case has already been heard, is nonsense.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 05:01 AM

 Raptor Witness, on 14 May 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:


To argue that this case has already been heard, is nonsense.



Not only have God's two witnesses already been killed for their testimony...
God's court has already convened and judgment passed.


Daniel also spoke of this:

" The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. "

Daniel 7


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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:39 AM

The two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah. "All must die for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God..." - physically. These two have not died physically. They were taken up to heaven without dying. The only way the scripture is true with no contradictions is if these two will someday return to earth, preach what people do not want to hear, and at God's appropriate timing are killed by their enemies, lie in the street of Jerusalem for 3 days, are resurrected and ascend into heaven.

Jews have always known Elijah is coming back. That's why they set an empty place for him at Passover. When Moses appeared to Jesus, the disciples thought at first it was Elijah.

That scripture also blows out of the water the Catholic teaching that the Blessed Virgin Mary never died. Of course she died. She was human. Flesh is short of the glory of God. It has to die. Flesh was never meant to inhabit heaven for an eternity.
May God bless us all is my prayer.


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Posted 18 May 2013 - 05:01 AM

 Copen, on 18 May 2013 - 03:39 AM, said:

The two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah. "All must die for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God..." - physically. These two have not died physically. They were taken up to heaven without dying. The only way the scripture is true with no contradictions is if these two will someday return to earth, preach what people do not want to hear, and at God's appropriate timing are killed by their enemies, lie in the street of Jerusalem for 3 days, are resurrected and ascend into heaven.

Jews have always known Elijah is coming back. That's why they set an empty place for him at Passover. When Moses appeared to Jesus, the disciples thought at first it was Elijah.

That scripture also blows out of the water the Catholic teaching that the Blessed Virgin Mary never died. Of course she died. She was human. Flesh is short of the glory of God. It has to die. Flesh was never meant to inhabit heaven for an eternity.
May God bless us all is my prayer.
This is one view, and I have no reason to doubt this potential scenario, but there are other reasonable arguments.

The question, however, is how will human government view these supernatural undertakings?

The separation of church and state typically means the state cannot recognize any other power greater than itself. So it must deny the power of Heaven.

To fully comprehend the purpose of trial and tribulation on earth, the question of how the power of Heaven will be received, must be asked.

The Vatican might have a problem with this also.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:03 PM

The two witnesses in different books of the bible:
Key:
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Blue-king witness
Pink-priest witness
Yellow-both witnesses
Exodus 29:

minister unto me in the priest's office: Take one young bullock, and two rams without blemish,2 And unleavened bread, and cakes unleavened tempered with oil, and wafers unleavened anointed with oil: of wheaten flour shalt thou make them.3 And thou shalt put them into one basket, and bring them in the basket, with the bullock and the two rams.4 And Aaron and his sons thou shalt bring unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shalt wash them with water.5 And thou shalt take the garments, and put upon Aaron the coat, and the robe of the ephod, and the ephod, and the breastplate, and gird him with the curious girdle of the ephod:6 And thou shalt put the mitre upon his head, and put the holy crown upon the mitre.7 Then shalt thou take the anointing oil, and pour it upon his head, and anoint him.8 And thou shalt bring his sons, and put coats upon them.9 And thou shalt gird them with girdles, Aaron and his sons, and put the bonnets on them: and the priest's office shall be theirs for a perpetual statute: and thou shalt consecrate Aaron and his sons.10 And thou shalt cause a bullock to be brought before the tabernacle of the congregation: and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the bullock.11 And thou shalt kill the bullock before the Lord, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.12 And thou shalt take of the blood of the bullock, and put it upon the horns of the altar with thy finger, and pour all the blood beside the bottom of the altar.13 And thou shalt take all the fat that covereth the inwards, and the caul that is above the liver, and the two kidneys, and the fat that is upon them, and burn them upon the altar.14 But the flesh of the bullock, and his skin, and his dung, shalt thou burn with fire without the camp: it is a sin offering.15 Thou shalt also take one ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram.16 And thou shalt slay the ram, and thou shalt take his blood, and sprinkle it round about upon the altar.17 And thou shalt cut the ram in pieces, and wash the inwards of him, and his legs, and put them unto his pieces, and unto his head.18 And thou shalt burn the whole ram upon the altar: it is a burnt offering unto the Lord: it is a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord.19 And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram.20 Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.21 And thou shalt take of the blood that is upon the altar, and of the anointing oil, and sprinkle it upon Aaron, and upon his garments, and upon his sons, and upon the garments of his sons with him: and he shall be hallowed, and his garments, and his sons, and his sons' garments with him.22 Also thou shalt take of the ram the fat and the rump, and the fat that covereth the inwards, and the caul above the liver, and the two kidneys, and the fat that is upon them, and the right shoulder; for it is a ram of consecration:23 And one loaf of bread, , and one cake of oiled breadand one wafer out of the basket of the unleavened bread that is before the Lord:24 And thou shalt put all in the hands of Aaron, and in the hands of his sons; and shalt wave them for a wave offering before the Lord.25 And thou shalt receive them of their hands, and burn them upon the altar for a burnt offering, for a sweet savour before the Lord: it is an offering made by fire unto the Lord.26 And thou shalt take the breast of the ram of Aaron's consecration, and wave it for a wave offering before the Lord: and it shall be thy part.27 And thou shalt sanctify the breast of the wave offering, and the shoulder of the heave offering, which is waved, and which is heaved up, of the ram of the consecration, even of that which is for Aaron, and of that which is for his sons:28 And it shall be Aaron's and his sons' by a statute for ever from the children of Israel: for it is an heave offering: and it shall be an heave offering from the children of Israel of the sacrifice of their peace offerings, even their heave offering unto the Lord.29 And the holy garments of Aaron shall be his sons' after him, to be anointed therein, and to be consecrated in them.30 And that son that is priest in his stead shall put them on seven days, when he cometh into the tabernacle of the congregation to minister in the holy place.31 And thou shalt take the ram of the consecration, and seethe his flesh in the holy place.32 And Aaron and his sons shall eat the flesh of the ram, and the bread that is in the basket by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.33 And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy.34 And if ought of the flesh of the consecrations, or of the bread, remain unto the morning, then thou shalt burn the remainder with fire: it shall not be eaten, because it is holy.35 And thus shalt thou do unto Aaron, and to his sons, according to all things which I have commanded thee: seven days shalt thou consecrate them.36 And thou shalt offer every day a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.37 Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and it shall be an altar most holy: whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy.38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; two lambs of the first year day by day continually.39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning(2000 years ago Jesus); and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even(end times two witnesses):40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an hin of wine for a drink offering.41 And the other lamb thou shalt offer at even(end times two witnesses), and shalt do there to according to the meat offering of the morning, and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord.42 This shall be a continual burnt offering throughout your generations at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee.43 And there I will meet with the children of Israel, and the tabernacle shall be sanctified by my glory.44 And I will sanctify the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar: I will sanctify also both Aaron and his sons, to minister to me in the priest's office.45 And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.46 And they shall know that I am the Lord their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the Lord their God.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:07 PM

KEY:
2 witnesses in different books of the bible, one a king and one a priest

Blue = king

pink = priest

yellow king and priest working together


Red = Jesus the redeemer


Psalm 105

King James Version (KJV)

105 O give thanks unto the Lord; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people.

2 Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him: talk ye of all his wondrous works.

3 Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the Lord.

4 Seek the Lord, and his strength: seek his face evermore.

5 Remember his marvellous works that he hath done; his wonders, and the judgments of his mouth;

6 O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.

7 He is the Lord our God: his judgments are in all the earth.

8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.

9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;

10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:

11 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:

12 When they were but a few men in number; yea, very few, and strangers in it.

13 When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people;

14 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;

15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

16 Moreover he called for a famine upon the land: he brake the whole staff of bread.

17 He sent a man before them, even Joseph(firstborn double portion because adam and eve are the firstborn hence the need for a double portion), who was sold for a servant(2 witnesses feed the people spiritually during 7 yrs of famine of word of God):

18 Whose feet they hurt with fetters: he was laid in iron:

19 Until the time that his word came: the word of the Lord tried him.

20 The king sent and loosed him; even the ruler of the people, and let him go free.

21 He made him lord of his house, and ruler of all his substance:

22 To bind his princes at his pleasure; and teach his senators wisdom.

23 Israel also came into Egypt; and Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.

24 And he increased his people greatly; and made them stronger than their enemies.

25 He turned their heart to hate his people, to deal subtilly with his servants.

26 He sent Moses his servant; and Aaron whom he had chosen.



compare verse 6:
6 O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.

To verse 26:
26 He sent Moses his servant; and Aaron whom he had chosen.

To Isaiah 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend

To Isaiah 44:1
Yet now hear, O jacob my servant and Israel, whom I have chosen

In Psalms 105 moses and aaron are the servant and the chosen and in Isaiah Jacob and Israel are the servant and the chosen





To show Jacob and Israel are the 2 witnesses:

Isaiah 43

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43 But now thus saith the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

2 When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.

3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

4 Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.

5 Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;

6 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;

7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.

9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.

10 YE ARE MY WITNESSES, saith the Lord, and MY SERVANT whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God.

13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?

14 Thus saith the Lord, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships.

15 I am the Lord, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.

16 Thus saith the Lord, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters;

17 Which bringeth forth the chariot and horse, the army and the power; they shall lie down together, they shall not rise: they are extinct, they are quenched as tow.

18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.

19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.

22 But thou hast not called upon me, O Jacob; but thou hast been weary of me, O Israel.

23 Thou hast not brought me the small cattle of thy burnt offerings; neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices. I have not caused thee to serve with an offering, nor wearied thee with incense.

24 Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities.

25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

26 Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified.

27 Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me.

28 Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches.

KEY:
2 witnesses in different books of the bible, one a king and one a priest

Blue = king

pink = priest

yellow king and priest working together

Psalm 118

King James Version (KJV)

118 O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.

2 Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

3 Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

4 Let them now that fear the Lord say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

5 I called upon the Lord in distress: the Lord answered me, and set me in a large place(throne room).

6 The Lord is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?

7 The Lord taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

9 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.

10 All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the Lord will I destroy them.

11 They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

12 They compassed me about like bees: they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

13 Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the Lord helped me.

14 The Lord is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.

15 The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly.

16 The right hand of the Lord is exalted: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly.

17 I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the Lord.

18 The Lord hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the Lord:

20 This gate of the Lord, into which the righteous shall enter.

21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.

22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

23 This is the Lord's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

24 This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

25 Save now, I beseech thee, O Lord: O Lord, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.

26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord.

27 God is the Lord, which hath shewed us light: bind the sacrifice with cords, even unto the horns of the altar.

28 Thou art my God, and I will praise thee: thou art my God, I will exalt thee.

29 O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.

Testament of the 12 Patriarchs: Showing Levi and Judah being the 2 witnesses Levi the priest and Judah the king



[link to www.summascriptura.com]

The Apocalypse is not just all the terrible things that happen in the end. The Apocalypse means the unveiling of something that has been kept secret:

An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: apocálypsis, from meaning 'un-covering'), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, hidden from humanity in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation, although this sense did not enter English until the 14th century.[1] In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden. In the Revelation of John (Greek Apocalypsis Ioannou), the last book of the New Testament, the revelation which John receives is that of the ultimate victory of good over evil and the end of the present age, and that is the primary meaning of the term, one that dates to 1175.[1] Today, it is commonly used in reference to any prophetic revelation or so-called End Time scenario, or to the end of the world in general.

Just as when the Son of God Jesus came and the Jews would not accept him

The son of God(Jesus) Adam comes to join the two houses of Israel(christian and Jew). Will the christians reject Adam just as the Jews rejected Jesus?

The Jews are looking for the 2 anointed messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david which are actually Adam and Eve in the body of the two witnesses in the end. As Adam was split in the garden Eve being priest and Adam being king and their Father Jesus is both.

Certainly the Jews will follow the priest(false prophet) and king(antichirst) that are rebuilding the physical temple until the obamanation of desolation but after that happens the jews will realize the other priest and king(two witnesses) that is building the spiritual temple are the true messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david that is hidden in the volume of the book

This messiah ben david and messiah ben joseph will bring the message of Jesus to the Jews and the 2 houses will be joined.

Jesus is High Priest and King I absolutely believe that. I also believe Jesus was only from 1 tribe Judah:
Hebrews 7:
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Jesus used the order of Melchelzedek to fulfill the Priesthood part and is Priest and King but not after the Levi tribe, only theJudahtribe and the melchelzeked priesthood is superior to the aaronic levi priesthood

The two witnesses are going to be fulfilling the Judah and Levi part in the last 7 year tribulation.

Because Jeremiah 33 says:

17 For thus saith the Lord; David(Judah) shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites(Levi) want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.



Ezekiel 37: you cant be a king and prince unless your father is a King of Kings(Jesus)

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.




Testament of Simeon chapter 3:

10 And now, my children,, and Judah, and obey Levi and Judah, and be not lifted up against these two tribes, for " from them shall arise unto you the salvation of God".

11 For the Lord shall raise up from Levi as it were a High Priest, and from Judah as it were a King, God and man, He shall save all the Gentiles and the race of Israel.

12 Therefore I give you these commands that ye also may command your children, that they may observe them throughout their generations.


Acts 13:
46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that "thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth".

48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

KEY:
Two witnesses one a king and one a priest
Blue = king
Pink = priest
yellow = king and priest working together


Deuteronomy 33

King James Version (KJV)

33 And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.

2 And he said, The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

3 Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words.

4 Moses commanded us a law, even the inheritance of the congregation of Jacob.

5 And he was king in Jeshurun, when the heads of the people and the tribes of Israel were gathered together.

6 Let Reuben live, and not die; and let not his men be few.

7 And this is the blessing of Judah: and he said, Hear, Lord, the voice of Judah, and bring him unto his people: let his hands be sufficient for him; and be thou an help to him from his enemies.

8 And of Levi he said, Let thy Thummim and thy Urim(breast plate worn by High Priest aaron to give answers to question asked of God) be with thy holy one, whom thou didst prove at Massah, and with whom thou didst strive at the waters of Meribah;

9 Who said unto his father and to his mother, I have not seen him; neither did he acknowledge his brethren, nor knew his own children: for they have observed thy word, and kept thy covenant.


10 They shall teach Jacob(lost 10 tribes) thy judgments, and Israel(Judah and Benjamin, geographical Israel) thy law: they shall put incense before thee, and whole burnt sacrifice upon thine altar.

11 Bless, Lord, his substance, and accept the work of his hands; smite through the loins of them that rise against him, and of them that hate him, that they rise not again



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:10 PM

Ezekiel 37:

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. (that should be a strong "BRANCH")

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Lamentations 2

King James Version (KJV)

2 How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion(UNITED STATES) with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!

2 The Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob(UNITED STATES), and hath not pitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them down to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof.

3 He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath drawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he burned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about.

4 He hath bent his bow like an enemy: he stood with his right hand as an adversary, and slew all that were pleasant to the eye in the tabernacle of the daughter of Zion: he poured out his fury like fire.

5 The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.

6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden(type of garden of Eden): he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the Lord hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king (WITNESS 1) and the priest (WITNESS 2).

Malachi 4:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord(destruction of the United States):

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

So this Jeremiah warning is the same waring that the last Elijah will give to the u.s before it's destruction.


This is showing the priest side(joshua, aaron, jeremiah, elijah, etc) that is sent before the destruction and the carrying away captive of the Americans because they have turned away from God and Deut 28 curses are coming upon them so we see this is messiah ben joseph(1st witness) because messiah ben david (2nd witness)does not come til the beginning of the 7 year tribulation and there is 3 and 1/2 years of jacobs(united states destruction) trouble before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.
Rev. 2:10 (10 days equals 10 and a half years or 42 months times 3:

Revelation 2:10

King James Version (KJV)

10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days(years): be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.



Jeremiah 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 The words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah, of the priests that were in Anathoth in the land of Benjamin:

2 To whom the word of the Lord came in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, in the thirteenth year of his reign.

3 It came also in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the end of the eleventh year of Zedekiah the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the carrying away of Jerusalem captive in the fifth month.

4 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

6 Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.

7 But the Lord said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.

8 Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the Lord.

9 Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree.

12 Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.

13 And the word of the Lord came unto me the second time, saying, What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north.

14 Then the Lord said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.

15 For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the Lord; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah.

16 And I will utter my judgments(judgements are given to the man-child and righteousness to the other witness. But the king side of the Branch does not enter the scene until 42 months after the appearance of the first witness. The Branch executes:judgement and righteousness but the man-child is not been to the throne and the Branch is not yet in effect) against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.

17 Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.

18 For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brasen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land.

19 And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the Lord, to deliver thee.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:13 PM

Chapter 6 zechariah and chapter 6 revelation shows the 4 horses

Revelation chapter 11 is the 2 witnesses or two olive trees and is shown to be the two anointed ones again speaking of olive trees in zechariah 4:3

And two olive trees by it, one on the right side of the bowl, and the other on the left side thereof.

So we can see how zechariah and revelation reflect each other and the two witnesses are shown one in zechariah as joshuah the high priest and one in revelation as the man-child

In Zechariah you have the priest Joshuah being taken up to the throne of God this is a shadow of 1 of the two witnesses. To me the two witnesses are 2 people one a king and one a priest and I see kings as masculine and priests as feminine but not according to sexual organs as people see masculine and feminine but more in the kingdom being like a socket(feminine) and a plug(masculine) with God being the electricity

This priest is the aaron side holding the egg in the picture you posted

Revelation chapter 12:5

Revelation 12:5

The man-child is holding a rod like the moses in your picture

King James Version (KJV)

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

KEY:
Blue =king (adam)
Pink =priest(eve)
Yellow =king and priest working together
Red =Jesus


Isaiah 42..........Jesus is speaking in verse 5 so who is the servant in verse 1?

King James Version (KJV)

42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.


5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

Can we agree Jesus created everything?:

1 col 1:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:15 PM

KEY:

Two witnesses shown in scripture:

Blue = king witness
Pink = priest witness
yellow = king and priest working together

Isaiah 62

King James Version (KJV)

62 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.

2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.

4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.

5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence,

7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.

8 The Lord hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:

9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the Lord; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.

10 Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.

11 Behold, the Lord hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

12 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the Lord: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:16 PM

Isaiah 61

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61 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.

4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.(Joshuah and Zerubbabel rebuilding the temple or in other words what the servant the Branch does)

5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.

6 But ye shall be named the Priests(origninal hebrew meaning: chief ruler, priest, prince, principal officer) of the Lord: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.

8 For I the Lord love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the Lord hath blessed.

10 I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. (Joshua and the man-childs return from the throne room)

11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord God will cause righteousness and praise(meaning of Judah) to spring forth before all the nations.





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