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Can humanity afford a real life Star Trek ?


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#46    mfluder

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:33 AM

I didn't read the entire article, so forgive me if this was covered, but in Gene Roddenberry's universe, humankind evolved past the need for material posessions, and money became a thing of the past.  As long as we continue to wring every penny of profit out of every possible source, and put low priority on empirical pursuits like exploring space, we'll stay firmly planted on this rock we call Earth.  Hopefully more enlightened countries in a more enlightened future will realize space exploration is vital to our survival as a species, and invent the real world Enterprise.  Warp speed ahead, and be wary of the Borg!


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:23 PM

not gonnas happen forget about it


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:09 PM

Because our money matters in the intergalactic stage... Oh no, lets focus on other things, such as give those billions of dollars to charities which barely distribute them.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:02 PM

You have to look at charities, most of them, provide jobs for people who have families.  But, your correct the good charites only get up to 20% to where it is supposed to go.  The national companies are the worse ones, except for the rip offs.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 12:46 AM

The question should be Can Mankind Not afford it ?

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:18 PM

Sure. We can afford not to move  up into space... We'll just eventually face extinction.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:28 PM

View Postdanielost, on 26 May 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

You have to look at charities, most of them, provide jobs for people who have families.  But, your correct the good charites only get up to 20% to where it is supposed to go.  The national companies are the worse ones, except for the rip offs.

It is a myth that Charities are money sink holes.

The Better Business Bureau tracks most charities and many of the better ones like Children International, have an almost 80% rate of money going into programs, with 20% for Administrative and Fund Raising activities. Everyone should research a charity before giving them any money.

Edited by DieChecker, 27 May 2013 - 09:29 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:59 PM

As long as mankind is stuck on one planet, mankind is mortal.  A single event can kill us,

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 03:00 AM

HEre ! HERE ! I agree danielost ! :tu:

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:02 AM

We need to keep doing the scientific research.

In the distant future they might find a way to use the whole solar system as a combined spaceship.

We re already flying around the galaxy together with our sun on our spaceship Earth, we just need to find a way to move everything together much faster as a complete system.

Some kind of controllable huge warp bubble around the sun, using its enormous energy to propel it, and the Earth, in its own warp bubble along with it.

Bring along Mars, and Venus, after moving their orbits into the Goldilocks zone and creating proper atmospheres around them, and use them as spaceships too.

Add in other planetary spaceships we find and create/modify along the way.

Exchange the sun for a new star when we use up the current one.

Create more complete solar system starships and go forth and multiply.

With there being billions and billions of galaxies in the universe, each containing billions and billions of stars, I have little doubt that this is already happening all over the place out there. :)


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:28 AM

View PostHugh, on 28 May 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

We need to keep doing the scientific research.

In the distant future they might find a way to use the whole solar system as a combined spaceship.

We re already flying around the galaxy together with our sun on our spaceship Earth, we just need to find a way to move everything together much faster as a complete system.

Some kind of controllable huge warp bubble around the sun, using its enormous energy to propel it, and the Earth, in its own warp bubble along with it.

Bring along Mars, and Venus, after moving their orbits into the Goldilocks zone and creating proper atmospheres around them, and use them as spaceships too.

Add in other planetary spaceships we find and create/modify along the way.

Exchange the sun for a new star when we use up the current one.

Create more complete solar system starships and go forth and multiply.

With there being billions and billions of galaxies in the universe, each containing billions and billions of stars, I have little doubt that this is already happening all over the place out there. :)


I point out that mars spends time in the goldielock zone.  It is it,s thin atmosphere that is the problem.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:09 AM

View Postdanielost, on 28 May 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

I point out that mars spends time in the goldielock zone.  It is it,s thin atmosphere that is the problem.

Just needs more gravity and to get that we can just add more mass, plenty of that in the asteroid belt.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:58 PM

First we have to get past the liberals.  Who think anything not going to "help" someone is a wast of money.  Even if they have to force people on to the help roles.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:58 PM

View PostHugh, on 28 May 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

Just needs more gravity and to get that we can just add more mass, plenty of that in the asteroid belt.
We could probably do that eventually. Drop some comets and asteroids down to the surface. Sure it would tear the planet up and ruin the environement, such as it is, but within a realatively short time, we could start building parking lots. :tu:

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 28 May 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:


We could probably do that eventually. Drop some comets and asteroids down to the surface. Sure it would tear the planet up and ruin the environement, such as it is, but within a realatively short time, we could start building parking lots. :tu:

View PostDieChecker, on 28 May 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:


We could probably do that eventually. Drop some comets and asteroids down to the surface. Sure it would tear the planet up and ruin the environement, such as it is, but within a realatively short time, we could start building parking lots. :tu:

Launch pads!!!!!!!!

I am a mormon.  If I don't use mormons believe, those my beliefs only.
I do not go to church haven't for thirty years.
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I am not perfect and never will be. I do strive to be true to myself. I do my best to stay true to the mormon faith. Thank for careing and if you don't peace be with you.




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