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#1    desert palm tree

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 07:28 AM

I am obsessed on it. But it could help us to know it precisely,what it is, if we could discuss it here.
   BTW i made correction , i was saying Ma'at Thoth and Anubis are Egyptian Trinity. For me now the best choice of Egyptian Triads is Thebean Triad : Amun, Mut and Khonsu.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 07:35 AM

As I see it, it doesn't matter if God is one being or three beings or a million beings or whatever.  If He/They is/are omniscient, then each necessarily and by definition instantly knows and shares all the thoughts and feelings and whatever of all of His other beings.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 07:45 AM

It is The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost (spirit)..... they are separate entity's, yet still GOD. Don't try to understand the workings of this... we have minds that cannot understand the complexities of GOD.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

I don't see, if we are in God's image, why He should be so hard for us to understand.  Our minds are quite capable of dealing with even the "sizes" of infinite sets.  That seems to me just a way to avoid talking about something that should very much be talked about.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:43 AM

Always found this interesting...

{Sami God) Radien-attje is often portrayed as the main figure in a Trinity, which besides him, consists by the Raedieahkka or Radien-akka (Maadteraahka, the superior mother) and their son Radien-pardne. There are critics who claim, that this Trinity is a consequence of the meeting with the Christian religion, and that it is a match to the God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit. If this is the case, it is interesting, that the Sami have replaced the Holy Spirit with a wife. In some versions the heavenly family also include the daughter Rana Niejta. As superior deity, Radien-attje is more of an intellectual superior, as his son, Radien-pardne, performs the practical things
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Radien-attje

What's interesting - is that the Sami would have more than likely NOT changed the Holy Spirit to a wife. God most likely did have a wife originally.

Did God Have a Wife?: Archaeology and Folk Religion in Ancient Israel, (Eerdmans, ISBN 0-8028-2852-3, 2005),[1] is a book by Syro-Palestinian archaeologist William G. Dever, Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Archeology and Anthropology at the University of Arizona. “Did God Have a Wife?” was intended as a popular work making available to the general public the evidence long known to archaeologists regarding ancient Israelite religion: namely that the Israelite god of antiquity (before 600 BC), Yahweh, had a consort, that her name was Asherah, and that she was part of the Canaanite pantheon.
http://en.wikipedia....od_Have_a_Wife?

Edited by The Puzzler, 26 May 2013 - 08:49 AM.

In an mmm bop it's gone...

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:48 AM

View PostZeta Reticulum, on 26 May 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

It is The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost (spirit)..... they are separate entity's, yet still GOD. Don't try to understand the workings of this... we have minds that cannot understand the complexities of GOD.
That is a pretty poor cop out as humans invented the concept.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:54 AM

Mormon teachings is they are three beings making a god head.  Think of them as a family working for the same goal. They are the father, jesus, and the holy ghost.  We also have a moter in heaven to.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:29 AM

As I contemplating now, the Jews never know Elohim(it's plural) or King Messiah ;Christians never know Holy Trinity or Jesus,without other facets of messiah or trinity , Moses and Elijah.
  And to understand these three aspects of messiah; first you have to eat the (real) body of gods , at Seder , Paschal and feel the presence of Elijah. Eat the body of Jesus and . . . Eat the "eye of Horus" and live forever. http://www.sacred-te...y/pyt/index.htm


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:15 AM

I think "What is trinity" depends on what type trinity is desired. Certainly Mut, Khonsu and Amun are a trinity of three individual gods. Isis, Serapis and Harpokrates (Horus junior), form a trinity that may, or may not be the foundation for the Christian trinity. Those three may have been seen as three aspects of one God, though I think not. Similar is Ra, Amun and Ptah whose individual identities became aspects of a single, though unnamed God behind the scenes (The Great Mystery). What survives on AE religion is a written formula, spells, and all sorts of obvious hogwash. What does not survive is their thoughts in the form of a philosophy such as with the Greeks or indeed even in the Bible. Some things may have been so obvious to them that they never carved it onto walls or wrote it onto papyri. I know this line of reasoning is a sort of cheat, as then anything can be ascribed to AE on the basis that "Well, there is no evidence against" which this forum and the publishing world is littered with, and I do not wish to indulge in hypocrasy. However, AE, as they had no word for religion, also had no word for God as a single force, but I think this does not necessarily mean they did not think there was a single God. We have a fantastical array of gods with various aspects and heads, but I think this is seen by us in a too literal way. I think, without hard evidence, as none exists, that they did have at least a duality that they themselves saw, ultimately as God, and that is Ra-Horakhty. I also think that though I have created the name Ra-Horakhty-Aton, that there may have been a short time when these three elements were seen as one. The result was not the artificial construct Ra-Horakhty-Aton, but, because of events and thinking we do not fully understand, became known only as Aten. Some will disagree, but this is only an idea of mine, not a doctoral thesis.

Edit to add that there is another dimension to this. It does not have to be a trinity as AE already had the tetrachy of Ra, Osiris, Isis and Horus. Most other AE gods being regional variants or minor gods carrying out the functions now carried out by saints in Orthodox and Catholic Christianity.

Edited by Tutankhaten-pasheri, 26 May 2013 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:48 AM

Not sure if this is the right answer, but it was the name of the school I went to near the Elephant and Castle in south London, trust me, there was nothing religious about it.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostZeta Reticulum, on 26 May 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

It is The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost (spirit)..... they are separate entity's, yet still GOD. Don't try to understand the workings of this... we have minds that cannot understand the complexities of GOD.


It was nothing but an idea that was forced upon those who dared to think differently, as you can read here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:05 PM

don't forget the three aspects of the pagan goddess, the maid, the mother, & the crone.....

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:07 PM

(either that, or the fiesty leather-clad chick from the matrix.....)
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:31 PM

Hi freetoroam,

Joke!

I bet you were a naughty girl, going to Trinity School in Elephant & Castle, i bet you used to slip out to go around the corner to Ministry of Sound ha ha!

http://en.wikipedia....nistry_of_Sound


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:57 PM

I've never understoond all the trouble people have over the Trinity.  To me it got to be the most sensible, reasonable thing in Christianity, although I will admit that's not saying much





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