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#16    Beany

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:05 AM

I think we're starting to lose the art of civil discourse in our society. Look at someone like Rush Limbaugh, who still is extremely popular with some folks. He and some others have taught us that it's OK and even desirable to use pejoratives for those who disagree with us, to cut people off in mid-sentence who aren't true believers. I saw it during the last 2 election cycles, and in my own family. Those of us who are Democrats & liberals were called all kinds of names, denigrated, mocked, and subjected to rants that were full of inaccuracies. And the people who felt perfectly free to post or say whatever they wanted got really p***ed when they got a response they didn't like. Part of it is just plain bad manners, some of it is due to adopting a poor role model, ignorance plays a role, as does confirmation bias and immaturity.

We used to be able to agree to disagree, now we just call each other names and identify ourselves and others by our differences instead of our commonality. The US has become extremely polarized, and that them vs us attitude hurts everyone in the long run. But, people do like to be right, and some people will insist on being right no matter what price they have to pay. In the long run, they end up hurting themselves.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:28 AM

I don't know, I am used to having my belief system attacked. Hell they come up on the porch to do it. I guess they don't see pentacle next to the door and the instruction to think about why they are there.  On a website like this I could care less and I don't take it personal,  I am here to discuss and debate. If I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't be here, I really don't do anything if I don't enjoy it. I am too old and mess up to worry about what somebody on a website says.  There are some people on this site I have a great deal of respect for. Some I have none, respect you have to earn. There are people here I have know for years. There are many who are gone I really miss.  I met some first class science and history buffs. If you start talking BS there is somebody who is going to call you out on it and if you can't back up your science or history here your not going to win the debate. If you can't handle it you need to move on, because especially this forum you're not going  to get a break.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:29 AM

Everyone knows there are nuts on here, after awhile , they are easy to identify.
They are the one's with the longest replies in
a topic they do not believe in. They are the ones that make personal attacks on someones character and intelligence because they choose too keep their feet firmly in the acceptable realms of there own perceptions, and never would accept anything from  outside  these boundaries.
And that UMers , is what makes this site fantastic,
especially for us fence sitters.It makes for good comedic relief in a disturbingly deteriorating world.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:30 AM

View PostSakari, on 01 June 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

**1) You are correct, when people think their " opinions " are fact. That is what I said.

And you also pointed out they **2)continue to mock and be condescending. **3)I have been accused of this, when no quotes could be supported of me doing that. That is what I mean. Some people can not handle a discussion, even a " heated " one, without taking things personal, and trying to read in feelings and tone into replies. ( yes, some are out right obvious ).

I can show you a **4)ton of examples of people getting offended, for no reason other then people asking them questions, or asking for evidence, or links and facts. It is just dumb.

These people are **5)not being offended, they are taking offense because people do not believe them on their opinion, and try to discuss it.

View PostSakari, on 01 June 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

I have people take something from me, say " **6)Demons do not exist " and exagerate that to " **7)the paranormal does not exist "........

Pretty broad jump  there :)

I have taken the freedom of bolding some quotes of your last two posts, but we both know you are smart enough to understand what you are doing. We both also know that you are doing this intentionally, and that it is not the first time.

1) Didn't you claim that demons do not exist and you have facts to prove such?
2) I will touch more of this a bit later.
3) Same as above.
4) While it is true that people may get offended seemingly for no reason, it is quite uncommon. For every example you can demonstrate of this occurring I will demonstrate 3 of them actually being disrespected.
5) The same as 4 applies, most people do not get offended by disbelief but by disrespect towards their beliefs.
6) Same as number one.
7) See numbers two and three? Where you said people accuse you of being condescending or mocking them and no quotes of such can be demonstrated? Here is your demonstration, this is not your first sneaky wordplay shot at me either.

Note: Nobody said it was just you, it is many people who have adapted this whole mentality of "Someone posted their experience, it's time to go mock them".

Edited by xFelix, 01 June 2013 - 04:05 AM.

My posts consist of my opinions, beliefs, and experiences, feel free to disagree in a respectful manner.

I have a right to my beleifs, just as you have a right to not agree with them.

So long as we respect each other's beliefs, we won't have a single problem.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:36 AM

View PostBeany, on 01 June 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

I think we're starting to lose the art of civil discourse in our society. Look at someone like Rush Limbaugh, who still is extremely popular with some folks. He and some others have taught us that it's OK and even desirable to use pejoratives for those who disagree with us, to cut people off in mid-sentence who aren't true believers. I saw it during the last 2 election cycles, and in my own family. Those of us who are Democrats & liberals were called all kinds of names, denigrated, mocked, and subjected to rants that were full of inaccuracies. And the people who felt perfectly free to post or say whatever they wanted got really p***ed when they got a response they didn't like. Part of it is just plain bad manners, some of it is due to adopting a poor role model, ignorance plays a role, as does confirmation bias and immaturity.

We used to be able to agree to disagree, now we just call each other names and identify ourselves and others by our differences instead of our commonality. The US has become extremely polarized, and that them vs us attitude hurts everyone in the long run. But, people do like to be right, and some people will insist on being right no matter what price they have to pay. In the long run, they end up hurting themselves.

Hey, Beany,

The first part, I agree with everything you said. The second part was steeped too much in US politics. The third part you said, I agree with again.

I owe you 2/3rd's of a 'like'. :)

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:42 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 01 June 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:



I owe you 2/3rd's of a 'like'.
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a 'lik'?
(i know that technically that's 3/4 of a like, but I can't split the 'k'. or maybe I could do a bit of inventive cheating and make it 'lic'....?)
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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:46 AM

Ok, not directing this at anyone...

But hey, second page in, things are sure to shred soon... So just chill... Don't get mad folks. Don't provoke, don't get all arg...

Let's just nicely chat about why people get mad instead :)

Your ad hominem connotes your sciolism. Now that is some funny commentary.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:49 AM

I want to complain about these people, too. In some of my discussions, my adversary, I mean who I'm discussing or debating with will choose to reply to my easiest point to contend with. Parts of my replies that they might have difficulty challenging they ignore. And some are so smug. They dismiss my posts as though my point of view is so obviously incorrect as to be inconsequential.

xFelix said:

Note: Nobody said it was just you, it is many people who have adapted this whole mentality of "Someone posted their experience, it's time to go mock them".

I can understand someone getting offended when a poster tries to make that person look foolish, so I think it cuts both ways. A type A person takes offense when his/her opinion is challenged, a type B person takes offense when he/she feels mocked, so he/she retaliates.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:51 AM

View Postshrooma, on 01 June 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:


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a 'lik'?
(i know that technically that's 3/4 of a like, but I can't split the 'k'. or maybe I could do a bit of inventive cheating and make it 'lic'....?)
:-)

The Welsh have an answer but it's 27 letters long. :)


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:57 AM

welsh is an odd language! because it's ancient, they don't have words for modern things, so you'll hear odd words like 'video' or 'telephone' mixed in with it, but, the welsh word for 'microwave' has got to be the
b-e-s-t
word
EVER!!
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(it's a 'popty-ping!')

Edited by shrooma, 01 June 2013 - 04:04 AM.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:59 AM

LOL Sakari is a bit snotty at times in what he states and askes for. I think because he and I think that with out proof or evidience the cycle repeates itself. Many topics here have been discused 20 times over. I think he might need to move on to subjects that are new to him.  If people want to believe in this stuff so be it.





Sakari your just baiting as you know as do many of us

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 04:01 AM

View Postrashore, on 01 June 2013 - 03:46 AM, said:

second page in, things are sure to shred soon... So just chill...

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i'm glad it wasn't just me who spotted the irony of getting mad on a page entitled 'why do people get mad' rashore!
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Posted 01 June 2013 - 04:03 AM

View PostxFelix, on 01 June 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

I have taken the freedom of bolding some quotes of your last two posts, but we both know you are smart enough to understand what you are doing. We both also know that you are doing this intentionally, and that it is not the first time.

1) Didn't you claim that demons do not exist and you have facts to prove such?
2) I will touch more of this a bit later.
3) Same as above.
4) While it is true that people may get offended seemingly for no reason, it is quite uncommon. For every example you can demonstrate of this occurring I will demonstrate 3 of them actually being disrespected.
5) The same as 4 applies, most people do not get offended by disbelief but by disrespect towards their beliefs.
6) Same as number one.
7) See numbers two and three? Where you said people accuse of you being condescending or mocking them and no quotes of such can be demonstrated? Here is your demonstration, this is not your first sneaky wordplay shot at me either.

Note: Nobody said it was just you, it is many people who have adapted this whole mentality of "Someone posted their experience, it's time to go mock them".




I am having a hard time trying to see what any of this has to do with the topic?

I also see you seem to be reading into things as I mentioned people do.


You are trying to make what you want out of my wording, interesting.

Sometimes I feel I need to put a disclaimer under some of my posts for some. This is what I am talking about.

It appears you are getting upset over a topic about why do people get upset.

One reason I know of, sorry, I feel is true. It depends whom the person is leaving the reply.

I assure you I am not being condescending towards you, I am just having a discussion. You can take that however you would like. That is all I can really do at this point.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 04:04 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 01 June 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

LOL Sakari is a bit snotty at times in what he states and askes for. I think because he and I think that with out proof or evidience the cycle repeates itself. Many topics here have been discused 20 times over. I think he might need to move on to subjects that are new to him.  If people want to believe in this stuff so be it.





Sakari your just baiting as you know as do many of us


No, I am just curious as to what answers I would get....:)

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 04:11 AM

They probably feel their beliefs and judgement is being questioned.





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