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Is There Such Things as Curses?


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#1    saucy

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Posted 16 October 2004 - 12:04 AM

This should be an interesting one on one debate on the subject of curses.  Do they exist?  Can one person actually put a curse on someone else that works?  Once I get two volunteers with which direction they perfer to swing, I'll write the debate rules.


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Posted 18 October 2004 - 06:25 PM

Everyone, this is not a forum for posting your opinions.
Dancing_Dumplings, Kryso, dazdillinjah and crystalmoon, i have deleted your posts. Unless you are interested in debating against an opponent one on one you are not to post your opinions, thanks.



Still waiting for two people to post their interest in the debate so it can get underway.


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Posted 22 October 2004 - 12:42 AM

I'm interested.

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 07:55 PM

Great! One more.


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Posted 03 November 2004 - 02:39 AM

I'd be happy to participate


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Posted 03 November 2004 - 10:59 PM

Crunch time, if you are serious and would like to continue this debate to the end, please state so. Thanks. original.gif


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Posted 04 November 2004 - 11:59 AM

I am serious
and will follow the debate through until it's end


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Posted 04 November 2004 - 09:09 PM

Okay, let's finally get this thing started.  Crunch time will debate that there are no curses and Jeremy will debate that there are.  IN this debate, you have to start off with an introduction post, followed by three body posts and sum everything up with a conclusion.  Have fun!


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Posted 04 November 2004 - 10:19 PM

Ok


I believe there are curses. Looking back throughout history we see amny cases in which people have been uder some sort of curse.Many of these are in different cultures, that had no knowledge of the other. I think that this fact alone presents a very strong case for the existence of curses.

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 08:25 PM

CrunchTime, you will be disqualified unless we get your introductroy post within the week.


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Posted 15 November 2004 - 08:33 PM

Mrs.Kahalioumi i have deleted your post. No, you are not allowed to post in the debates, only the people who have signed up for them.
Look for an open debate to participate in if you'd like to debate, but please do not interupt the debates in progress.


[edit] Crunchtime has been disqualified from the debate.
Since Mr. Rumbolt has already posted his intro, we're looking for one more debater to participate. original.gif

Edited by BurnSide, 16 November 2004 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2004 - 02:53 AM

I would be interested in debating against cures, can i join? I know the rules. grin2.gif


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Posted 16 November 2004 - 07:01 PM

DarkAngelh22eh, you're in. original.gif

Mr. Rumbolt has already posted his introductory post, so now it's your turn to post your introduction.

You are debating the fact that there are no such things as curses. State your sources, no flaming, and remember that you are being marked on countering, style, relevance and persuasivness.

One intro post each, three body posts each and one conclusion each. ANy further questions, feel free to PM me. thumbsup.gif




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Posted 17 November 2004 - 07:30 AM

To wish a curse upon someone is impossible. All through history are stories of curses. And with these stories are the stories of overcoming the curse.
People have taken Madame pele’s rocks from Hawaii and nothing has happen, but supposedly there is a curse placed upon any one who takes a rock. Just a story to keep visitors from steal the rocks.
The bambino Curse is another example, I know that the red sox’s sucked and then got better. There was no curse and no lift from the curse.
  Therefore this show that curse's are a hoax. An act intended to deceive or trick.
Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.(webster)






Hope i did the intro right, first one, so help me if i am wrong, or break the rules



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Posted 17 November 2004 - 07:22 PM

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People have taken Madame pele’s rocks from Hawaii and nothing has happen, but supposedly there is a curse placed upon any one who takes a rock. Just a story to keep visitors from steal the rocks.


Yes, many curses are made up for purpuses such as these. But what about the Voodoo? There have been multiple accounts of a VooDoo curse being placed on a person in order to cause harm.Many of these have ended in death and tragedy.

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Therefore this show that curse's are a hoax. An act intended to deceive or trick.
Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.


Once again, this just shows that many times, buisnesses or other groups use "curses" as a way to scare people. These accounts alone are by no means justification to dismiss all curses.

To bring up another curse, the curse of King Tuts tomb. Many things happened in this incident. Various deaths, sickness and other event, including Cairo losing power at the time of death of one of the archeologists. Too many things happened to be a coincidence. Therefore, this is solid proff of an existing curse.

Too / FarGone
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TooFa/ rGone
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T_oo/FarGone
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